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Making up your bull xxxx on the go

One of the signs of a brilliant sociopath is being able to lie so convincingly that you can convince your wife you havn't been unfaithful when caught xxxx deep into your girlfriend. Dear Drumph has surpassed all such standards with his recent utterances.

And the fact checkers wept: how Donald Trump's use of language defies all conventions
Paul McGeough March 11 2016 - 12:35PM

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If this was a businessman simply blathering about his wares, Trump might be excused.

But it wasn't, which is what makes Trump's performance so breathtaking. An artful sleight of hand, this was Trump's considered response to a savage attack days earlier, when GOP grandee and former presidential hopeful Mitt Romney denounced the New York billionaire as a failed businessman – "a phoney ... a fraud".

Piles of bottled water, bloodied raw steaks, wine and magazines were displayed to refute Romney's claim that Trump Water, Trump Steaks, Trump Wine and Trump magazine were embarrassing failures for the candidate who claims to be a businessman with the Midas touch.

Trump's water company is defunct – what he brandished in Florida on Tuesday was water from a non-related Connecticut bottler, who specialises in personalised or private labels on bulk orders.

The meat? Trump Steaks last sold in Sharper Image outlets across the US in 2007. What Trump displayed was the produce of Bush Brothers, a non-Trump entity. The candidate didn't even have the manners or the smarts to remove the Bush Brothers labels from the slabs of meat.

And the wine? Trump's son, Eric, is named as the president of Trump Winery. But online, there is this terse disclaimer: "Trump Winery is a registered trade name of Eric Trump Wine Manufacturing LLC, which is not owned, managed, or affiliated with Donald J Trump, the Trump Organisation or any of their affiliates."

The magazine was a quarterly that folded in 2009. When Trump threw a magazine to someone in Tuesday's crowd, it was a copy of The Jewel of Palm Beach, which is offered to guests at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida.
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http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/wor...e-defies-all-conventions-20160310-gng93u.html

...and story gets better. check it out
 
So good at BS: I nearly admire him, and being the best in that area very logically lead to being politician number one;
Trump is the direct result of politicians action (and absence of action, education spending especially) in the US.
They got their dum easy to manipulate electorate, but now the sheeps are angry and want blood after too many shearing seasons...THAt was not part of the plan.
Do not worry, it will not happen in Australia as long as we have beer, increasing RE (who wants to be a millionnaire for everyone), renovation/eality shows and AFL.
 
basilio said:
Making up your bull xxxx on the go

One of the signs of a brilliant sociopath is being able to lie so convincingly that you can convince your wife you havn't been unfaithful when caught xxxx deep into your girlfriend. Dear Drumph has surpassed all such standards with his recent utterances.



http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/wor...e-defies-all-conventions-20160310-gng93u.html

...and story gets better. check it out
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Watched Last Week's Tonight with John Oliver on Drumpf and yea, this guy just blather off lies and bs so convincingly the guy he lied about have to double check if Drumpf is right or he really did what the donald said he did.

Natural born politician this guy.
 
qldfrog said:
So good at BS: I nearly admire him, and being the best in that area very logically lead to being politician number one;
Trump is the direct result of politicians action (and absence of action, education spending especially) in the US.
They got their dum easy to manipulate electorate, but now the sheeps are angry and want blood after too many shearing seasons...THAt was not part of the plan.
Do not worry, it will not happen in Australia as long as we have beer, increasing RE (who wants to be a millionnaire for everyone), renovation/eality shows and AFL.
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Did I just agree with almost all of that up there? Dam. Must be the weather.
 
The venue was still cancelled as they intended, Rumpole.

This is the problem, and what we seem to be seeing throughout the universities, imv.

In saying that, I am just watching where this election ends up, out of curiousity.
 
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SirRumpole said:
Unlike the Trump supporter who punched an anti Trump demonstrator in the face then ran away.
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I don't think Trump is preaching tolerance, holding hands and chanting Om.... Not a "yes we can" to be heard, or free **** for all.

...so the comparison is redundant.
 
wayneL said:
The leftists, show once again they are only tolerant if you agree with them
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Unlike the KKK of course, the arbiters of tolerance and good grace.... And Trumps view on the KKK "great bunch 'o' 'good ol boys"

There's some truely 'strange fruit' in the Trump camp.
 
wayneL said:
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I don't think Trump is preaching tolerance, holding hands and chanting Om.... Not a "yes we can" to be heard, or free **** for all.

...so the comparison is redundant.
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Nice of you to acknowledge that the 'Left' is preaching tolerance.

What's the Right preaching, Facism ?
 
Obama's reason for the rise of Trump: Republicans lie too much so Trump trumps them because he lie better; Republicans are nasty and Trump win people's support because he's nastier.

wtf?

Maybe it's not all the Republican's fault that the country and the masses are in deep poo and not liking it.


"How can you be shocked?" he asked to laughter from the crowd, according to a transcript. "This is the guy, remember, who was sure that I was born in Kenya - who just wouldn't let it go. And all this same Republican establishment, they weren't saying nothing. As long as it was directed at me, they were fine with it. They thought it was a hoot, wanted to get his endorsement. And then now, suddenly, we're shocked that there's gambling going on in this establishment."
The Republican Party set the conditions long ago for Trump's success, Obama said. The billionaire just capitalised on the GOP's own tactics, the president argued:
"What is happening in this primary is just a distillation of what's been happening inside their party for more than a decade. I mean, the reason that many of their voters are responding is because this is what's been fed through the messages they've been sending for a long time - that you just make flat assertions that don't comport with the facts. That you just deny the evidence of science. That compromise is a betrayal. That the other side isn't simply wrong, or we just disagree, we want to take a different approach, but the other side is destroying the country, or treasonous. I mean, that's - look it up. That's what they've been saying."
"So they can't be surprised when somebody suddenly looks and says, you know what, I can do that even better. I can make stuff up better than that. I can be more outrageous than that. I can insult people even better than that. I can be even more uncivil. I mean, conservative outlets have been feeding their base constantly the notion that everything is a disaster, that everybody else is to blame, that Obamacare is destroying the country. And it doesn't matter whether it's true or not. It's not, we disagree with this program, we think we can do it better - it's, oh, this is a crisis!"
"So if you don't care about the facts, or the evidence, or civility, in general in making your arguments, you will end up with candidates who will say just about anything and do just about anything. And when your answer to every proposal that I make, or Democrats make is no, it means that you've got to become more and more unreasonable because that's the only way you can say no to some pretty reasonable stuff. And then you shouldn't be surprised when your party ultimately has no ideas to offer at all."


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-elec...nald-trump-20160312-gnhkt6.html#ixzz42mXA8oXH
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luutzu said:
Obama's reason for the rise of Trump: Republicans lie too much so Trump trumps them because he lie better; Republicans are nasty and Trump win people's support because he's nastier.

wtf?

Maybe it's not all the Republican's fault that the country and the masses are in deep poo and not liking it.
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There may be something in what he says.

US politics seems, especially on the Republican side a lot more feral than ours is, after Abbott left anyway.
 
I think Obamas observations are pretty well spot on. I have found it unbelievable that seemingly intelligent people can defy reality at will and in fact attempt to create a new reality by simply repeating the same lie over and over again.

For example the ongoing madness of the Birther argument that tried to say President Obama should not be Prez because they say he was born in Kenya. This rubbish went for years amongst extremists and the Republicians refused to disown it. Trump was the last one left attempting to justify teh position.

Again "Obama is a Muslim" lie. Repeated endlessly by extremists and not repudiated by Republicans who wanted to keep up pressure on President Obama.

How many sad, mad ideas have there been ?

Check it out


Chart: Almost Every Obama Conspiracy Theory Ever
Fake birth certificates, ghostwriters, teleprompters, a teenage trip to Mars, and more of the most paranoid and bizarro Obama conspiracy theories out there.

Barack Obama's presidency has been an inspiration to many Americans””especially nutjobs. Ever since the first-black-president-to-be appeared on the national political stage, a cottage industry of conservative conspiracy theorists has churned out bizarro, paranoid, and just plain racist effluvia””some of which has trickled into the political mainstream. Below, we've charted some of the Obama-baiters best (i.e., worst) work. (Scroll down for more detailed descriptions of the conspiracy theories in the diagram.)
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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/chart-obama-conspiracy-theories
 
basilio said:
I think Obamas observations are pretty well spot on. I have found it unbelievable that seemingly intelligent people can defy reality at will and in fact attempt to create a new reality by simply repeating the same lie over and over again.

For example the ongoing madness of the Birther argument that tried to say President Obama should not be Prez because they say he was born in Kenya. This rubbish went for years amongst extremists and the Republicians refused to disown it. Trump was the last one left attempting to justify teh position.

Again "Obama is a Muslim" lie. Repeated endlessly by extremists and not repudiated by Republicans who wanted to keep up pressure on President Obama.

How many sad, mad ideas have there been ?

Check it out




http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/chart-obama-conspiracy-theories
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There is something in what Obama said, but it's not the complete picture.

First, you can't say, because it is not true, that Trump is winning because he lies better and will be more confrontational against Democrats.

Yes it is factually true that Trump lies, and lies like a psycho... and yes, his supporters support him not knowing he lies. But the real reason they support and like Trump, is of his perceived outsider status; like him for wanting to bring the jobs back; for making America great again; for caring for the little guys; for fighting for them; savings their jobs from Mexicans and saving their children from Muslims.

It's true that the Republicans, from what I as a simple observer can see, just go against whatever it is Obama and Democrats want to do... But that's not why people support Trump. They don't support him because he'll make the gov't even more unworkable. They want him so that he could make the gov't work again, and working for them.

So I wouldn't be blaming the supporters, or the Republicans, or Trump, for people wanting a gov't that represents and work for their interests.
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Obama came to power during the GFC... he got a great disaster, he got a country and a people behind him... he could change the entire trajectory of the country. He just didn't. Didn't do it because of opposition, sure; but a lot of it got to do with him picking bad advisors and following the money and winning elections than doing what is right by the common people.

I still think he's a decent guy wanting to do good. But fact is, he just don't do good and that's just moral cowardice.

IF I run a country for 8 years and the things that made it worst just got worst and the people that suffer just suffered more... I wouldn't be blaming other people for my administration's failures.
 
luutzu said:
IF I run a country for 8 years and the things that made it worst just got worst and the people that suffer just suffered more... I wouldn't be blaming other people for my administration's failures.
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Most people consistently over estimate the power of a US President in peacetime.

In wartime he has the authority to blow up the world but as far as domestic affairs are concerned he has to get legislation passed by Congress which has been controlled by his political opponents (in the House of Reps) for most of his Presidency.

So yes he can blame other people to some extent, just just Abbott and Turnbull blame our Senate for not passing their legislation.
 
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