Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[luutzu]

Well written.
if Trump gets in he might act in the public's interest. That is why he is popular.

One part of the fascist definition which seems somewhat relevant to today's USA is:

Fascism operated from a Social Darwinist view of human relations. The aim was to promote superior individuals and weed out the weak.[6] In terms of economic practice, this meant promoting the interests of successful businessmen while destroying trade unions and other organizations of the working class.[7] Fascist governments encouraged the pursuit of private profit and offered many benefits to large businesses, but they demanded in return that all economic activity should serve the national interest.

Maybe not the Social Darwinist stuff? Maybe?

Definitely not the last but about demanding economic activities serving the national interests.

Maybe once upon a time. Now it seems that it's just assumed American corporations and American elite will automatically serve America and other Americans by getting rich. Just that they don't and only does so by accident... and all the gov't seem to do now is go "ehhh..."

Saw Joe Biden as Davos or something this year where he was sounding real tough telling American executives there to bring back their corporations cash to America because it build the country.

I thought gov't and their IRS could kinda write a law or two and it'll be brought back or else! But here it's "pretty please, please bring it back".

 

[luutzu]

in the same way here, I have nothing against billions of profit for rio/bhp/etc or woolworth as long as it serves the national interest.
The day Ford's interest dissociated from the US interest is when super profit inflated but also when the corporations signed their death sentences IMHO

What the... that's like three times this week.

One of us have got to see a doctor

 

[DB008]

Trump Wins Three States as John Kasich Blocks Him in Ohio​

Donald Trump fell short of his goal of winning the two key states he needed to clear most of the Republican presidential field, securing a huge victory in Florida to knock out home-state Senator Marco Rubio before losing Ohio to Governor John Kasich.

The split decision on Trump increased the possibility that the party could be headed for a potentially chaotic national convention in Cleveland in July. Trump also won Illinois and North Carolina, according to multiple television networks.

Rubio, the junior senator from Florida and the real estate mogul’s latest political victim, suspended his campaign.

"After tonight it is clear that while we are on the right side, we are not on the winning side," Rubio said from his hometown of Miami. "While this may not have been the year for a hopeful and optimistic message about our future, I still remain hopeful and optimistic about America."

Kasich, who had vowed to drop out of the race if he didn’t win his home state, will now emerge as the Republican establishment’s top candidate. But it’s an open question where he can win next against a dominant campaigner like Trump.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-16/trump-wins-florida-in-blow-to-rubio-s-presidential-ambitions​

 

[Knobby22]

Kasich could hurt Trump and stop him getting outright victory but staying will also make it harder for Cruz.

I think Trump will come very close and so will be effectively unstoppable. It wouldn't surprise me to see Kasich ending up the Vice President to Trump. It would actually be a fairly good combination to take on Hilary.

 

[Logique]

Didn't know you cared so much about women's rights Logique.
Oh well since Hilary has set them back so far everyone better vote for Trump. Does he still run Miss Universe?

Knobby and SirR, Hillary may well be indicted before she can run for President. US Secretary of State business on a private email account, who does that?

But to be fair, the Donald has been caught out a few times during the campaign.

 

[luutzu]

Knobby and SirR, Hillary may well be indicted before she can run for President. US Secretary of State business on a private email account, who does that?

But to be fair, the Donald has been caught out a few times during the campaign.

Heard about her potential indictment.

Talk about running a gov't department like her personal fiefdom.

 

[pixel]

Maybe there's hope yet ...

AN AIRPLANE WAS ABOUT TO CRASH.
IT HAD 5 PASSENGERS ON BOARD, BUT ONLY 4 PARACHUTES.

THE FIRST PASSENGER, HOLLY MADISON, SAID, "I HAVE MY OWN REALITY SHOW AND I AM THE SMARTEST AND PRETTIEST WOMAN AT PLAYBOY, SO AMERICANS DON'T WANT ME TO DIE."
SHE TOOK THE FIRST PACK AND JUMPED OUT OF THE PLANE.

THE SECOND PASSENGER, JOHN MCCAIN, SAID, "I'M A SENATOR, AND A DECORATED WAR HERO FROM AN ELITE NAVY UNIT FROM THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA."
SO HE GRABBED THE SECOND PACK AND JUMPED.

THE THIRD PASSENGER, DONALD TRUMP, SAID, "I AM GOING TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I AM THE SMARTEST MAN IN OUR COUNTRY, AND I WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".
SO HE GRABBED THE PACK NEXT TO HIM AND JUMPED OUT.

THE FOURTH PASSENGER, BILLY GRAHAM, SAID TO THE FIFTH PASSENGER, A 10-YEAR-OLD SCHOOLGIRL, "I HAVE LIVED A FULL LIFE AND SERVED MY GOD THE BEST I COULD. YOU HAVE A FULL LIFE AHEAD OF YOU, SO I LET YOU HAVE THE LAST PARACHUTE. "

THE LITTLE GIRL SAID, "THAT'S OKAY, MR. GRAHAM. THERE'S A PARACHUTE LEFT FOR YOU, TOO. THE SMARTEST MAN IN AMERICA TOOK MY SCHOOLBAG."

 

[luutzu]

Maybe there's hope yet ...

AN AIRPLANE WAS ABOUT TO CRASH.
IT HAD 5 PASSENGERS ON BOARD, BUT ONLY 4 PARACHUTES.

THE FIRST PASSENGER, HOLLY MADISON, SAID, "I HAVE MY OWN REALITY SHOW AND I AM THE SMARTEST AND PRETTIEST WOMAN AT PLAYBOY, SO AMERICANS DON'T WANT ME TO DIE."
SHE TOOK THE FIRST PACK AND JUMPED OUT OF THE PLANE.

THE SECOND PASSENGER, JOHN MCCAIN, SAID, "I'M A SENATOR, AND A DECORATED WAR HERO FROM AN ELITE NAVY UNIT FROM THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA."
SO HE GRABBED THE SECOND PACK AND JUMPED.

THE THIRD PASSENGER, DONALD TRUMP, SAID, "I AM GOING TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I AM THE SMARTEST MAN IN OUR COUNTRY, AND I WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".
SO HE GRABBED THE PACK NEXT TO HIM AND JUMPED OUT.

THE FOURTH PASSENGER, BILLY GRAHAM, SAID TO THE FIFTH PASSENGER, A 10-YEAR-OLD SCHOOLGIRL, "I HAVE LIVED A FULL LIFE AND SERVED MY GOD THE BEST I COULD. YOU HAVE A FULL LIFE AHEAD OF YOU, SO I LET YOU HAVE THE LAST PARACHUTE. "

THE LITTLE GIRL SAID, "THAT'S OKAY, MR. GRAHAM. THERE'S A PARACHUTE LEFT FOR YOU, TOO. THE SMARTEST MAN IN AMERICA TOOK MY SCHOOLBAG."

Trump as president, can't believe I say that... but he'd definitely be indicted if he run the country the way he run his business "empire".

Then VP Palin will be president. dam!

 

[basilio]

Big story from Scott Adams creator of Dilbert.

I have big wraps on Scott. Read his books and he has a very astute understanding of human nature. His analysis of Donald Trump's campaign and why he believes Donald will win in a landslide is chilling.

Thoughts ?

Donald Trump will win in a landslide, says Dilbert creator Scott Adams

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/wor...bert-creator-scott-adams-20160324-gnqpxd.html

 

[basilio]

Went to Scott Adams blog. More on Trump. Very thought provoking. Certainly another take on the whole situation.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/141605245101/whos-afraid-of-donald-trump

 

[luutzu]

Big story from Scott Adams creator of Dilbert.

I have big wraps on Scott. Read his books and he has a very astute understanding of human nature. His analysis of Donald Trump's campaign and why he believes Donald will win in a landslide is chilling.

Thoughts ?


http://www.canberratimes.com.au/wor...bert-creator-scott-adams-20160324-gnqpxd.html

A couple of national polls put Sanders way ahead of Trump if they're to run against each other. So maybe Trump won't be able to sell himself so well outside the Republican base.

A lot of Adams point about why Trump would win - master persuader; use emotion; ignore facts and reality... All these are use by practically all politicians, and true, to great success. And Clinton would be on par with Trump when it comes to tough talks without facts or made up or conveniently ignored truths and sensibility...

Reminds me of some Q&A session with Chomsky on the Tea Party movement some two years after Obama got elected...

Chomsky was saying how if an "honest and decent" demi-god get into the race, the population will follow and abandon the current Democrat/Republican structure in a heartbeat.

Lucky for US Trump is too loud, too dishonest, too flamboyant and just too much. If he were like Hitler - well spoken, straight shooter who don't smoke or drink or gamble or womanise; and a war hero who wish to make the country great again (through house cleaning and cleaning up the neighbourhood and then the world)... the current political climate in the US, according to Chomsky 5 years ago, people will follow him.

So we're hoping that if a political revolution is to take place, it'd be with that Socialist Senator.

 

[qldfrog]

Big story from Scott Adams creator of Dilbert.


http://www.canberratimes.com.au/wor...bert-creator-scott-adams-20160324-gnqpxd.html

was going to post what is actually the same article from brisbane time, indeed very interesting and I would not be surprise if scott ends up right,Trump is pressing the right button in a concext where it fits perfectly and electorate has given up on the rest.Interesting time ahead, will money be enough to beat his skills

 

[Knobby22]

Went to Scott Adams blog. More on Trump. Very thought provoking. Certainly another take on the whole situation.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/141605245101/whos-afraid-of-donald-trump

Excellent article. But against the theocrat Cruz he has to win. Amazingly he is taking the middle ground. I think he may beat Hillary. Sanders would defeat him though. The USA have suffered from propaganda for so long that the desperation to try to get the government to act for their interests is palpable. Trump plays on this.

 

[Tisme]

Excellent article. But against the theocrat Cruz he has to win. Amazingly he is taking the middle ground. I think he may beat Hillary. Sanders would defeat him though. The USA have suffered from propaganda for so long that the desperation to try to get the government to act for their interests is palpable. Trump plays on this.

They are bombarded by so much propaganda they are as if hypnotised into thinking they are invincible and merely being held back by the lessons of empire and revolution.

I wouldn't be surprised if the new nationalistic mantra becomes returning to the core principles of individual liberalism, but sacrificing civic nationalism in order to kill off the undesirable ethnics in the ethnic nationalism that has fused itself to US society.....that will probably be attractive to those who favoured the civics of old isolationist america, where christian white was right and the rest were the anathema to all things good.

 

[Knobby22]

Trump got nearly all the votes for NY. Getting 89 delegates out of a total 93 due to the way the Republicans rig the process. They rig it to favour the establishment but trump now has it favouring him.

He isn't getting some delegates because the party heads pick them not the people such as the 30 delegates of Colorado and Cruz has 16 out of 17 super delegates. Even so, he is looking hard to stop. Exciting times.

172 votes up for grabs next Tuesday.If Trump gets half of them and also California (June 7th) he will be the Republican contender! He needs 392 more delegates all up, 674 delegates remaining.

 

[DB008]

Bernie is gone

Trump won NY

It will be Trump v Hillary for the White House

 

[CanOz]

Bernie is gone

Trump won NY

It will be Trump v Hillary for the White House

Its a sad day for the US...what a choice.

 

[qldfrog]

Its a sad day for the US...what a choice.

Trump anytime even if i would not have given Bernie much of a chance against the 1%, Trump has more chance to make an impact but not a given; like economy with recession, i believe earthquakes can be positive long term; without earthquakes, earth would be a dead planet, the trouble is when that release waits for too long, casualties can be high, but in a western civilisation collapsing in front of a political muslim front and governed by self interest lobbies, it will be interesting.
The question is will the 1% be able to rig the results enough to keep its new puppet in (after a black president, a woman, imagine how progressive this will be )Another obamah care to inflate some lobbies pockets?

 

[luutzu]

Bernie is gone

Trump won NY

It will be Trump v Hillary for the White House

Not so fast.

Clinton won NY City, Sanders won the other parts of the state.

Also, NY was a closed primary - meaning that you'd have to be registered as a Democrat in October last year to vote in this primary. That cut out all independents who would have voted for Sanders - as they have in the previous 8 out of 9 wins he did.

Then there's the voters being purged from the register because they haven't voted past couple of elections - maybe got sick of status quo and now want to vote for Sanders?


Trump, Cruz, Clinton all have net negative opinion polls. i.e. people in general do not like them. Sanders is the only one with a net positive of 9 point. ie. voters in general like him.

Further, Clinton will soon run out of cash since there's only so many rich people and most of them have maxed out their limits to contribute. Sanders' average is only $27 so far... and them six million small donations can keep giving again. Cash wise, he's only slightly behind the Clinton machine.

So unless it's rigged, Sanders will win this thing.

 

[qldfrog]

So unless it's rigged, Sanders will win this thing.

of course it is rigged!
Less than in Australia as they do not have compulsory voting so media propaganda is less powerfull, but Sanders is even more antioestablishment than Trump, he will be cut; no matter the popularity among the peons..sorry citizens;
Trump has the money and contacts/doubt so the power in place may allow him to win then try to cut him after if he becomes too dangerous (at their risk in my opinion)
they will not try this on Sanders and Clinton will be nominated, a nice puppet once more solidly bought