Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[luutzu]

Other Media has detailed further information on how Trump University pressured it's prospects. Powerful stuff.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/en..._574dff7ee4b0af73af95b726?section=austr alia

Not sure if Trump being a con artist, pathological liar and all round prick and a nominee of a major party... that being scary or him also beating the other anointed leader in the polls being scarier.

 

[luutzu]

Damn I hope Trump wins. Then the USccan have its very own Berlusconi.

The perfect antidote to the Obama Zombie State years, hemorrhaging prestige to point of being a laughing stock

Sifu, you saw how Obama went to Hiroshima and seriously says we must all find the courage to live in a nuclear-weapons free world.

NATO is busy fencing in Russia, activating missile defense system in a couple of its dependencies; the Middle East is all blown the bits; Africa they just got started on; China they're just starting to find ways to deal with... then he thought it's a good idea to start spending $1Trillion on smaller nukes... all to make the world nuclear-weapons free

Then topping it all off, the reign will soon be handed over to either a con artist with no clue or the other con artist with serious ambition.

I think it'd be a miracle of the humanity could get out of this century alive.

 

[DB008]

There is an ongoing Court case against Trump University brought by some pretty unhappy clients.

Essentially Trump University offered hugely expensive short term real estate courses to enable people to "live the dream"

Price? The Elite Gold Package was $35,000 for a three day course. What has come up in the court case has been the publication of the playbooks used by the sales staff to separate prospective suckers from their $35k.

Examples.

And surprise, surprise ? Trump has turned around and attacked the presiding judge .

Truly, Trump is the spawn of the devil.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/31/donald-trump-university-playbook-real-estate-courses

Stunning Hidden Agendas Exposed – Trump University Lawsuit Brought By Firm Who Paid $675,000 To Bill and Hillary Clinton…​

Research by Lawnewz has discovered the legal firm behind the Trump civil action lawsuit paid Bill and Hillary Clinton massive amounts of money for speeches and advocacy during and after Hillary Clinton’s tenure as Secretary of State:

Donald Trump has undoubtedly made the class action lawsuit against Trump University a prime campaign issue. For the last several days, he has been on a tear against federal Judge Gonzolo Curiel who is overseeing one of the class action lawsuits against Trump University. In the lawsuit, former students claim that the University and Trump violated federal law by luring them to sign up with false promises and then defrauded them once they handed over their checks.

LawNewz.com discovered that when it comes to politics, Robbins Gellar Rudman & Dowd, the law firm behind the class action lawsuit, is not exactly neutral either. Our analysis, using data compiled by The Washington Post, found that Robbins Gellar Rudman & Dowd paid the Clintons a total of $675,000 in fees for speeches since 2009. Hillary Clinton gave a speech for the law firm as recently as September 4, 2014.

Bill Clinton also gave a speech for the same fee back in 2014, and another one in 2009 before the firm had been renamed (they used to be called Coughlin Stoia Geller Rudman & Robbins LLP). In fact, of the five law firms that paid for Clintons to speak in the last few years, Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd paid out the most money.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/05/31/stunning-hidden-agendas-exposed-trump-university-lawsuit-brought-by-firm-who-paid-675000-to-bill-and-hillary-clinton/​

 

[basilio]

Yeah DB008. Fascinating piece of dribble from frothing mouths of the far, far, FAR Right.

Couple of points

1) The cases against Donald Trumps phony "University" courses go back 6 years plus. They began because bascially it was a very sharp operation. How sharp ?

2) What did the former managers of the operation say?

Former Trump University Workers Call the School a ‘Lie’ and a ‘Scheme’ in Testimony

By MICHAEL BARBARO and STEVE EDERMAY 31, 2016
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In blunt testimony revealed on Tuesday, former managers of Trump University, the for-profit school started by Donald J. Trump, portray it as an unscrupulous business that relied on high-pressure sales tactics, employed unqualified instructors, made deceptive claims and exploited vulnerable students willing to pay tens of thousands for Mr. Trump’s insights.

One sales manager for Trump University, Ronald Schnackenberg, recounted how he was reprimanded for not pushing a financially struggling couple hard enough to sign up for a $35,000 real estate class, despite his conclusion that it would endanger their economic future. He watched with disgust, he said, as a fellow Trump University salesman persuaded the couple to purchase the class anyway.

“I believe that Trump University was a fraudulent scheme,” Mr. Schnackenberg wrote in his testimony, “and that it preyed upon the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their money.”

For Mr. Trump, whose presidential campaign hinges on his reputation as a businessman, the newly unsealed documents offer an unflattering snapshot of his career since branching out, over the past decade, from building skyscrapers into endeavors that cashed in on his name to sell everything from water and steaks to ties and education.

The release of the documents on Tuesday, under court order, was the latest turn in a federal lawsuit, filed in California by dissatisfied former Trump University students, that has bedeviled the businessman since 2010 and could trail him into the White House if he is elected president.

Mr. Trump, who started the university in 2005, owned 93 percent of the now-defunct company. From the start, he acted as its chief promoter, rather than day-to-day manager, selling it as a tool of financial empowerment that would improve life for thousands of ordinary Americans. It would, he said, “teach you better than the best business school,” according to the transcript of a Web video.

Within the documents made public Tuesday were internal employee guides encouraging customers with little money to pay for the tuition with their credit cards. “We teach the technique of using OPM ... Other People’s Money,” explained the internal instructions for salespeople. The documents pushed employees to exploit the emotions of potential customers. “Let them know you’ve found an answer to their problems,” read confidential instructions to salespeople.

The most striking documents were written testimony from former employees of Trump University who said they had become disenchanted with the university’s tactics and culture. Corrine Sommer, an event manager, recounted how colleagues encouraged students to open up as many credit cards as possible to pay for classes that many of them could not afford.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/us/politics/donald-trump-university.html

I also find his abuse of the presiding judge in the case unbelievable ! Surely there are laws about contempt of court in America?

 

[basilio]

Earlier it was suggested by Wayne that Donald Trump could be the American answer to Silvia Berlusconi.

Absolutely. In fact one of the points of comparison was that it appeared Berlusconi went into politics" to save his companies from bankruptcy and himself from convictions".

Yep definite similarities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_surrounding_Silvio_Berlusconi

 

[wayneL]

Earlier it was suggested by Wayne that Donald Trump could be the American answer to Silvia Berlusconi.

Absolutely. In fact one of the points of comparison was that it appeared Berlusconi went into politics" to save his companies from bankruptcy and himself from convictions".

Yep definite similarities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_surrounding_Silvio_Berlusconi

At least it won't be boring when the irrelevancy of American politics is shoved down our throat, like the mind numbing stupefaction (tautology intentional) engendered by the "Yes We Can" farce.

 

[basilio]

At least it won't be boring when the irrelevancy of American politics is shoved down our throat, like the mind numbing stupefaction (tautology intentional) engendered by the "Yes We Can" farce.

So you want to wipe out the Obama governments legacy on the strength of a 2008 election slogan ?

And you think that replacing that political operating system with a full fledged bullying psychopath is a neat way of making life less boring ?

Really hope this isn't the case..

 

[basilio]

More choice reporting on the fraud that was Trump University. This time it comes from the staff who in the end couldn't stomach the lies they had to tell and the people they had to destroy to make their commissions and the millions for Donald Trump.

A 'total lie': Trump University ex-staffers condemn school as 'fraudulent scheme'

Testimony from three former employees in class-action lawsuit lambasts school that ‘preyed upon the elderly and uneducated’
Former staffers at Trump University condemned the school as a ‘total lie’. Photograph: Joe Raedle/Getty Images

Rupert Neate in New York
@RupertNeate

Thursday 2 June 2016 04.52 AEST

Some of the harshest critics of Trump University have been revealed to be former employees of the now-defunct university majority-owned by Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican US presidential candidate.
Trump University 'playbooks' offer glimpse of ruthless business practices

In sworn testimony, three former staff members have described the real estate school as “a facade, a total lie” and a “fraudulent scheme” that “preyed upon the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their money”.

In extracts from their evidence to a class-action lawsuit against the school, made public this week, the former staff tell the inside story of the “front-end high-pressure speaker scam” at Trump University.

Ronald Schnackenberg, who worked at Trump University’s headquarters on Wall Street between 2006 and 2007, said he felt compelled to resign because he thought the company was “engaging in misleading, fraudulent and dishonest conduct”.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/01/trump-university-staff-testimony-fraudulent-scheme

Apparently the case is scheduled to come to trial on 28th November - three weeks after the election. If Trump wants to be vindicated maybe he should ask for the trial to be brought forward a few months.

Maybe the Republician Party would also like to reconsider their nominee.

(And Pigs WILL fly )

 

[luutzu]

So you want to wipe out the Obama governments legacy on the strength of a 2008 election slogan ?

And you think that replacing that political operating system with a full fledged bullying psychopath is a neat way of making life less boring ?

Really hope this isn't the case..

I don't think Obama's Administration will be looked back on with much to praise about.

On practically every measure of progress, his admin is a disaster.

Civil rights - Obama deported more Mexicans/South Americans than all previous presidents combined. Most of these aren't just illegals but are refugees fleeing violence, such as the overthrow of Honduras with his and Clinton's support.

Watching American independent news tells me there's now literally millions of those without proper document living in fear of being raided and taken to ICE to be deported.

Then there's the law his admin enacted to permit the military to pick up any American on US soil and taken away - without lawyer, without charge. That's against the Constitution and there are groups that sue his Admin for it, but he managed to get the higher courts to overrule that.

With the environment... just talks and nice speeches but they ramp up fracking, push to export the technology worldwide; XL Keystone pipeline that he vetoed are not done for the environment as we're told.


Then there's the escalating wars all over the ME, with Russia; the drone wars and its collateral damages as well as damaging mere suspect.

And forget about Wall St and its "regulations"... he practically gave all the bankers what they wanted; Or Healthcare... practically written by the insurance companies.

A good example of how much Obama cares is when he went to Flint, drank its filtered water and say it's safe to drink - just not safe for children under six or pregnant women, but safe. wtf?

When you see that people's hair are falling out, children are being lead poisoned; and the caused was the water and now the leeching lead and decaying/rusted pipes... you don't go and take a sip from a filtered cup and say all is fine... then say in two years their system will be replaced. There is such as thing as temporary piping; and water are being used to wash and showered too, not just drink.

It's quite a disgrace actually.

 

[basilio]

Making Real Estate money the Trump way

Retired Navy veteran Felicisimo Limon loved Trump and believed the billionaire wanted him to achieve success, but after charging $26,000 to his credit card to enroll himself and his wife in the program in 2008, he now feels differently.

Limon describes the course material as useless and devoid of any advanced real estate techniques. The one tip he does recall came from an instructor who detailed the benefits of paying off unpaid tax debts of elderly people ”” keeping them in their homes until they die ”” but then taking ownership of their properties.

“When I saw that teaching, you had to steal somebody’s house? This is not right,” Limon said. “We were ripped off

.”

http://centuryfoxnews.com/index.php...nder-oath-trump-universitys-promises-crumble/

 

[basilio]

"If you can't beat em bribe em"

Did you ever wonder why only a couple of state Attorney Generals decided to prosecute Donald Trump for his scam "university" course?

Simple actually. He made BIG donations to the other AG's and they dutifully decided not to prosecute. In fact one of them wants to be his running mate.

As scores of students complained that Trump University was a ripoff, the Better Business Bureau in 2010 gave the school a D-minus, its second-lowest grade. State regulators also began to take notice.

Besides the probe that led to Attorney General Schneiderman's suit in New York, the office of then-Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, a Republican, opened a civil investigation of "possibly deceptive trade practices." Abbott's probe was quietly dropped in 2010 when Trump University agreed to end its operations in Texas. Trump subsequently donated $35,000 to Abbott's successful gubernatorial campaign, according to records.

A spokesman for Abbott, now Texas governor, declined to comment.

Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi briefly considered joining with Schneiderman in a multi-state suit against Trump University. Three days after Bondi's spokeswoman was quoted in local media reports as saying the office was reviewing the New York lawsuit, the Donald J. Trump Foundation made a $25,000 contribution to a political fundraising committee supporting Bondi's re-election campaign. Bondi, a Republican, soon dropped her investigation, citing insufficient grounds to proceed.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/6744...university-model-sell-hard-demand-see-warrant

 

[wayneL]

So I take it you're voting for Hillary bas?

 

[explod]

So I take it you're voting for Hillary bas?

Absolutely anything is possible. We are back in the 1930's again "heil hitler" and people in growing numbers feeling the state of poverty will do anything for the greatest clear noise maker. And thats trumps.

 

[wayneL]

Absolutely anything is possible. We are back in the 1930's again "heil hitler" and people in growing numbers feeling the state of poverty will do anything for the greatest clear noise maker. And thats trumps.

WHOOOOOSH!

 

[DB008]

Absolutely anything is possible. We are back in the 1930's again "heil hitler" and people in growing numbers feeling the state of poverty will do anything for the greatest clear noise maker. And thats trumps.

What a crazy statement.

CLINTON USED AT&T EMAIL AS A SENATOR​

Hillary Clinton served as a U.S. Senator from New York from January 3, 2001 to January 21, 2009. A newly released testimony from Hillary’s aide swore that she used a personal AT&T email account for official business as a Senator, and the practice continued once she became the helm of the State Department!
The name of this saving grace aide, Cheryl Mills, was Mrs. Clinton’s chief of staff while she was head of the State Department. She stated that Clinton began to use the AT&T email account to access all official work-related and confidential emails from early in her Senator career, all the way up until 3 months into her Secretary of State position. Sad!

The confession by Ms. Mills’ comes at a perfect time ”” the FBI is still in the depths of investigating Mrs. Clinton’s unsecured usage of email accounts while Secretary of State. It was first discovered three years ago that Mrs. Clinton had all of her emails stored at the domain “clintonemail.com” instead of using the account that was provided and secured by the government.

Ms. Mills stated just this last Friday, May 27th, that “Secretary Clinton continued a practice that she was using of [sic] her personal email.” The remarks were released by Judicial Watch, who is in the process of suing the State Department over her use of the “clintonemail.com” domain.

http://regated.com/2016/06/clinton-used-att-email-account-senator/​

 

[explod]

What a crazy statement.

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Do you understand that over 50 million Americans rely on Government food stamps for survival. That thier real unemployment rate is more than 20%. That US unemployment figures do not include those who have been out of work more than 12 months and that part time jobs, even a few hours per week, are counted as a job. A good survey of GDP shows that 80%of thiers is public consumtion made possible only by loans made for the spend out of promisss unbaked by any assets.

What is served up on main street media is for the mugs heading into the financial slaughter house.

Worth reading up on the great depression in my view.

 

[luutzu]

Do you understand that over 50 million Americans rely on Government food stamps for survival. That thier real unemployment rate is more than 20%. That US unemployment figures do not include those who have been out of work more than 12 months and that part time jobs, even a few hours per week, are counted as a job. A good survey of GDP shows that 80%of thiers is public consumtion made possible only by loans made for the spend out of promisss unbaked by any assets.

What is served up on main street media is for the mugs heading into the financial slaughter house.

Worth reading up on the great depression in my view.

If they don't redefine the definition, the US and most of the world are already in another Great Depression.


btw, some new poll show that people distrust Clinton more than Trump. Can't blame them, but it is scary that they're going into an election with the two most hated and most distrusted candidates.

Though I think the FBI will indict Clinton soon and Sanders will win this thing.

 

[basilio]

The new President of the Philippines is one Rodrigo Duterte. This guy makes Donald Trump look like a God Fearing Pacifist and he takes centre stage on June 30th.

Short story is he intends an all out war on criminals, druggies and other reprobates. He proposes executing 100,000 criminals and has already started by encouraging people to kill drug dealers themselves if they have a gun. He has been the mayor of Davio City and in his time thousands of people have been killed in vigilante killings.

Will be interesting to see how if this new political situation "normalise" extreme behaviour and vigilantism . I wonder what Trump will say ?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-10/rodrigo-duterte-wins-philippine-presidential-vote/7399658

New President of the Philippines Says Citizens Who Kill Drug Dealers Will Get Medals

By Tess Owen
June 6, 2016 | 5:50 am

The tough-talking president-elect of the Philippines has an aggressive new strategy to fight crime: Citizens who shoot and kill drug dealers will be given medals.

Rodrigo Duterte celebrated his recent presidential victory in the southern city of Davao on Saturday night, and, in a nationally televised speech, he warned about the dangers of the booming illegal drug trade and told regular Filipinos what they can do to help.

"Please feel free to call us, the police, or do it yourself if you have the gun, you have my support," Duterte said.

https://news.vice.com/article/new-p...itizens-who-kill-drug-dealers-will-get-medals

 

[SirRumpole]

The new President of the Philippines is one Rodrigo Duterte. This guy makes Donald Trump look like a God Fearing Pacifist and he takes centre stage on June 30th.

Short story is he intends an all out war on criminals, druggies and other reprobates. He proposes executing 100,000 criminals and has already started by encouraging people to kill drug dealers themselves if they have a gun. He has been the mayor of Davio City and in his time thousands of people have been killed in vigilante killings.

Will be interesting to see how if this new political situation "normalise" extreme behaviour and vigilantism . I wonder what Trump will say ?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-10/rodrigo-duterte-wins-philippine-presidential-vote/7399658


https://news.vice.com/article/new-p...itizens-who-kill-drug-dealers-will-get-medals

I'll give him about six months before someone decides to shoot him.

 

[Craton]

I'll give him about six months before someone decides to shoot him.

My guess is that Trump already as a big, fat, juicy target well and truly stamped on him. Be unbackable odds on if he's elected prez.