Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[luutzu]

No fear he is so incompetent he cannot even put together a team to carry out his 'plans' which outside of campaign talking points he hasn't got.

It will be 4 years before he even gets a cabinet room full.

Maybe a war or two with a moderately powerful country will change that disunity.

 

[noco]

This is how the lefties operate in the USA.......Watch the first video off the rank.

I have my helmet and flack jacket on in readiness for the leftie blast.


https://www.facebook.com/theboltreport/videos/

 

[wayneL]

Junior

I think there is a demarcation between social and economic values.

It is possible to be left socially and right economically and visa versa, muddying the waters.

I think a reasonable mixture of laissez-faire and regulation on both fronts is best.

The debate is - what is reasonable and for whom?

 

[wayneL]

Junior

I think there is a demarcation between social and economic values.

It is possible to be left socially and right economically and visa versa, muddying the waters.

I think a reasonable mixture of laissez-faire and regulation on both fronts is best.

The debate is - what is reasonable and for whom?

The corollary of which is - Whose values should we defend, theirs or ours?

 

[noco]

I'll help you out noco.

A lefty is a polite person who also gives a dam about anybody else beside just themselves.

They're the do-gooders who somehow reckon that people's tax dollars ought to be spent on the people instead of it being taken, hand over to rich people and their corporations, then we all blame Muslims and immigrants.

A lefty is someone who reckons imperialism is bad and we ought to leave people alone... that instead of thinking that if them Muslims behave, one day far away, we will find it in our Christian heart to forgive the Muslims for their barbaric religion forcing us to fly over to their countries, wreck the place and not at all take the oil.

A lefty is someone who's horrified at seeing an orange dictatorial loon breaking laws, moral codes, the constitution and civil rights in banning Muslims. That instead of seeing the deep down, the Yellow Emperor is really nice to good, deserving people. That he's only mean to those who deserves it.

Bill Shorten is a leftie but did he give a dam about those poor workers at Chiquita ans Clean Event...He diddled them out of $400,000,000 in wages and penalty rates....He gave to the rich and took from the poor.

A CFMEU leftie union reps have never been polite people with their abuse, distortion and intimidation of workers and building contractors......They are ruthless and rude which nobody can deny,.

 

[SirRumpole]

Bill Shorten is a leftie but did he give a dam about those poor workers at Chiquita ans Clean Event...He diddled them out of $400,000,000 in wages and penalty rates....He gave to the rich and took from the poor.

A CFMEU leftie union reps have never been polite people with their abuse, distortion and intimidation of workers and building contractors......They are ruthless and rude which nobody can deny,.

Raking over dead coals again.

 

[Tisme]

Raking over dead coals again.

 

[Junior]

Junior

I think there is a demarcation between social and economic values.

It is possible to be left socially and right economically and visa versa, muddying the waters.

I think a reasonable mixture of laissez-faire and regulation on both fronts is best.

The debate is - what is reasonable and for whom?

This makes sense.

I just think it's dangerous for so many people to side up with Trump simply because they consider themselves right-wing, and think he is on their side. Trump is on Trump's side. He is not anti the 1%. He IS the 1%, and he will gear his policies towards ensuring that his family and his business empire is the number 1 priority.

 

[noco]

Raking over dead coals again.

I have to keep reminding you in case you forget.....It must really stick in the gizzet of you lefties.

 

[luutzu]

Bill Shorten is a leftie but did he give a dam about those poor workers at Chiquita ans Clean Event...He diddled them out of $400,000,000 in wages and penalty rates....He gave to the rich and took from the poor.

He's not a lefty noco. That's what I've been trying to say.

Bob Hawke and Paul Keating made some deal where Alan Bond can buy Packer's Channel Nine but does not need to pay any tax on it. Something like that, heard it from an old John Pilger doco.

They also pass a special law just for Bondie's gold [?] mine to be exempt from certain taxes.

Hawke spoke to Murdoch, asking for Ruppee's permission to fire certain of the PM's deputy. They were quite chummy.

Murdoch was supporting Jimmy Carter, the "liberal" democratic president. It was Bill Clinton that permit Murdoch and his pals to own as many tv and media and news companies as they think is sensible.

So nobody gives a dam about the poor, not even the poor care about the poor to be honest.

I know we in the West don't believe in class warfare and stuff. That besides the Queen and other majesties, we're all equal and everybody's vote carry the same weight and all that. That's just for our entertainment, unfortunately.

Maybe it's best to stop listening to what they say and start watching the results of what they do.

It's not a coincident, or incompetence, or bad luck that each and every budget see the rich getting a whole lot more while the poor can decide whether they'll take this cut from grandma or that cut from the spoilt kids wanting an education.

 

[noco]

He's not a lefty noco. That's what I've been trying to say.

Bob Hawke and Paul Keating made some deal where Alan Bond can buy Packer's Channel Nine but does not need to pay any tax on it. Something like that, heard it from an old John Pilger doco.

They also pass a special law just for Bondie's gold [?] mine to be exempt from certain taxes.

Hawke spoke to Murdoch, asking for Ruppee's permission to fire certain of the PM's deputy. They were quite chummy.

Murdoch was supporting Jimmy Carter, the "liberal" democratic president. It was Bill Clinton that permit Murdoch and his pals to own as many tv and media and news companies as they think is sensible.

So nobody gives a dam about the poor, not even the poor care about the poor to be honest.

I know we in the West don't believe in class warfare and stuff. That besides the Queen and other majesties, we're all equal and everybody's vote carry the same weight and all that. That's just for our entertainment, unfortunately.

Maybe it's best to stop listening to what they say and start watching the results of what they do.

It's not a coincident, or incompetence, or bad luck that each and every budget see the rich getting a whole lot more while the poor can decide whether they'll take this cut from grandma or that cut from the spoilt kids wanting an education.

How can you be a Fabian and not a leftie.......Bill is on the list of Fabians along with most of the Labor Party and the Greens.

 

[luutzu]

How can you be a Fabian and not a leftie.......Bill is on the list of Fabians along with most of the Labor Party and the Greens.

The same way I sign up, pay for gym membership and never go there again.

 

[noco]

The same way I sign up, pay for gym membership and never go there again.

I fail to see any comparison....Please let me know when he resigns from the Fabian Society.

 

[wayneL]

He's not a lefty noco. That's what I've been trying to say.

You seem to be labouring under some misapprehension of the Fabian's modus operandi, Grasshopper.

Gradualism works by slowly boiling the frog, not ideological shock treatment. You have to look at the end game, not the mid-game headfakes.

 

[noco]

Why can't the lefties in the USA just lay down their arms and accept Trump is the President instead of the endless billy goat bickering......So Clinton lost...so what?......The USA is a democratic country like Australia....What in the hell will all the lefties achieve with demonstrations and riots?.

 

[luutzu]

I fail to see any comparison....Please let me know when he resigns from the Fabian Society.

Was referring to the local gym. Well, uni gym back in the days. Can't afford the private ones, ever.

Why can't the lefties in the USA just lay down their arms and accept Trump is the President instead of the endless billy goat bickering......So Clinton lost...so what?......The USA is a democratic country like Australia....What in the hell will all the lefties achieve with demonstrations and riots?.

Not many Americans care for Clinton, hence they didn't turn out to vote for her. You can even argue that those who voted for her didn't do it because they like her, but because they do not want Trump.

So all these weekly protests, it's not a "lefty" thing. It's just normal people wondering out loud at wtf is going on to their country under this idiot.

 

[SirRumpole]

So all these weekly protests, it's not a "lefty" thing. It's just normal people wondering out loud at wtf is going on to their country under this idiot.

Very true. A lot of people who voted for Trump are probably now thing "what have I done, I just wanted a protest vote, I never thought he would actually win".

Be careful what you wish for.

 

[PZ.]

I'll bet a lazy 50 that many of the protesters didn't vote at all but wished they had.

 

[tech/a]

Ill bet they are all fooled by randomness.
All polls had Clinton in by a country mile.
Media basically reported how Clinton was
a shoe in.

Perhaps the media lied!

It is what it is.
I hear bunker sales have sky rocketed (Pardon the pun).

 

[noco]

Was referring to the local gym. Well, uni gym back in the days. Can't afford the private ones, ever.


Not many Americans care for Clinton, hence they didn't turn out to vote for her. You can even argue that those who voted for her didn't do it because they like her, but because they do not want Trump.

So all these weekly protests, it's not a "lefty" thing. It's just normal people wondering out loud at wtf is going on to their country under this idiot.

You could have fooled me.......It is the left in the USA who are causing all this tension.....If you think otherwise, you are deluding yourself.

Trump won the election and the left should accept it...It is absolute crap the way these bad losers are carrying on.