The Turnbull Government

[noco]

People can speak for themselves , I'm simply disagreeing with your assertion that the Labor Party are a load of commie conspirators in disguise. There is simply nothing to back up those assertions.

I have posted this link before and I will post it again just for you.....I hope this will convince you that there is connections between the Labor Party, the Greens and the unions, as I now refer in brief as the LUG party, and the Fabian Society which is closely related to communism.

Julia Gillard, Chris Bowen, Tony Burke and Jenny Macklin are just a few who come to mind who are dedicated Fabians....The late Gough Whitlam was their Patron....The Fabians logo is "A SHEEP IN WOLVES CLOTHING" and that speaks for itself.

Today, the society functions primarily as a think tank and is one of 15 socialist societies affiliated with the Labor Party. Similar societies exist in Australia (the Australian Fabian Society), Canada (the Douglas-Coldwell Foundation and the now disbanded League for Social Reconstruction) and in New Zealand.

Ever since Gough Whitlam took power, we have seen the Fabian fingerprint on everything successive Labor governments have done. It’s not just that they spend all the money so carefully built up by their opponents the LNP or its predecessors whenever they are in power. The Laborites have made sweeping changes to the social fabric of our country, whittled away little by little at our freedoms, and pushed us ever closer to the communist ideal of collectivism.

As well, we have been disarmed, a key element in the Fabian agenda. An unarmed citizenry is unable to face the overwhelming force at the disposal of a Fabian-led government. So far, they have not had to implement force against us. Over the decades they have perfected ways to strip our rights and subjugate us, until we have a population so used to being told how to behave and what to do that our citizens willingly accept the impositions a free people would never submit to.

Julia Gillard and her comrades have done everything precisely by the Fabian book. They have got into the corridors of power using honeyed words and big promises, as well as knifing their only obstacle in the back.Once in power they have ruthlessly, but quietly, gone about imposing their socialist aims on a population powerless to act against them. We have been disarmed. We have no way to determine how we are governed. The Fabianists dictate what laws we are ruled by. We are spied on (cameras everywhere today). The press, that pillar of our social fabric, has let us down and succumbed to the bullying politicians. Instead of standing up for the rights of the common man, they have surrendered their power to those in power. They have left We the People totally exposed to the depredations of the wolves in sheep’s clothing.

I have no doubt Bill Shorten will follow suit if he ever gets back into power as it is in his DNA.


http://www.restoreaustralia.org.au/fabians-and-pm-gillard/

 

[SirRumpole]

I have posted this link before and I will post it again just for you.....I hope this will convince you that there is connections between the Labor Party, the Greens and the unions, as I now refer in brief as the LUG party, and the Fabian Society which is closely related to communism.

Julia Gillard, Chris Bowen, Tony Burke and Jenny Macklin are just a few who come to mind who are dedicated Fabians....The late Gough Whitlam was their Patron....The Fabians logo is "A SHEEP IN WOLVES CLOTHING" and that speaks for itself.

Today, the society functions primarily as a think tank and is one of 15 socialist societies affiliated with the Labor Party. Similar societies exist in Australia (the Australian Fabian Society), Canada (the Douglas-Coldwell Foundation and the now disbanded League for Social Reconstruction) and in New Zealand.


http://www.restoreaustralia.org.au/fabians-and-pm-gillard/

<yawn>

The only "socialist" policy that Macklin and Gillard introduced was the NDIS which your now fearless leader took credit for last week, and which our most Right Wing Prime Minister Tony Abbott also supported.

 

[sinner]

I am surprised no one is talking about the ministerial line up.

ha funny you should mention it because all I could think after reading was that if the new bloke who claims to want to treat the electorate with intelligence puts Sinodinos in the position of cabinet secretary after fronting ICAC, there isn't too much to be said.

 

[noco]

<yawn>

The only "socialist" policy that Macklin and Gillard introduced was the NDIS which your now fearless leader took credit for last week, and which our most Right Wing Prime Minister Tony Abbott also supported.

Is that the best you can do is yawn.......Wake up Rumpy as to what is really happening in the LUG party...get them back to the grass roots of a true Labor party.

The Labor Party funded the NDIS with money they did not get from Swan's failed mining tax....Labor committed money they did not have....The Labor Party had no idea how to fund it just like lots of other hare brain schemes like their renewable energy target of 50% by 2050 or was it 2030?...Labor once again had not costed it and furthermore have no idea how.

Abbott was wedged into supporting the unfunded NDIS ...If he had not supported it, he would have been branded heartless....It is now a rope around the neck of the tax payers and will cost extensively more as time goes on.

 

[Knobby22]

ha funny you should mention it because all I could think after reading was that if the new bloke who claims to want to treat the electorate with intelligence puts Sinodinos in the position of cabinet secretary after fronting ICAC, there isn't too much to be said.

I know he is held in a lot of respect within the party but a comeback like that is surprising.

I am also surprised that Bill Shorten is still opposition leader after his Royal Commission fronting where some in the Labor party said he should immediately resign.. so what do I know?

 

[sinner]

I know he is held in a lot of respect within the party but a comeback like that is surprising.

I am also surprised that Bill Shorten is still opposition leader after his Royal Commission fronting where some in the Labor party said he should immediately resign.. so what do I know?

Come on Knobby, stuff like this is only surprising for the naive. Be a bit more cynical about politics and you will find yourself a lot less surprised about most things.

 

[McLovin]

I have posted this link before and I will post it again just for you.....I hope this will convince you that there is connections between the Labor Party, the Greens and the unions, as I now refer in brief as the LUG party, and the Fabian Society which is closely related to communism.

Julia Gillard, Chris Bowen, Tony Burke and Jenny Macklin are just a few who come to mind who are dedicated Fabians....The late Gough Whitlam was their Patron....The Fabians logo is "A SHEEP IN WOLVES CLOTHING" and that speaks for itself.

Today, the society functions primarily as a think tank and is one of 15 socialist societies affiliated with the Labor Party. Similar societies exist in Australia (the Australian Fabian Society), Canada (the Douglas-Coldwell Foundation and the now disbanded League for Social Reconstruction) and in New Zealand.

Ever since Gough Whitlam took power, we have seen the Fabian fingerprint on everything successive Labor governments have done. It’s not just that they spend all the money so carefully built up by their opponents the LNP or its predecessors whenever they are in power. The Laborites have made sweeping changes to the social fabric of our country, whittled away little by little at our freedoms, and pushed us ever closer to the communist ideal of collectivism.

As well, we have been disarmed, a key element in the Fabian agenda. An unarmed citizenry is unable to face the overwhelming force at the disposal of a Fabian-led government. So far, they have not had to implement force against us. Over the decades they have perfected ways to strip our rights and subjugate us, until we have a population so used to being told how to behave and what to do that our citizens willingly accept the impositions a free people would never submit to.

Julia Gillard and her comrades have done everything precisely by the Fabian book. They have got into the corridors of power using honeyed words and big promises, as well as knifing their only obstacle in the back.Once in power they have ruthlessly, but quietly, gone about imposing their socialist aims on a population powerless to act against them. We have been disarmed. We have no way to determine how we are governed. The Fabianists dictate what laws we are ruled by. We are spied on (cameras everywhere today). The press, that pillar of our social fabric, has let us down and succumbed to the bullying politicians. Instead of standing up for the rights of the common man, they have surrendered their power to those in power. They have left We the People totally exposed to the depredations of the wolves in sheep’s clothing.

I have no doubt Bill Shorten will follow suit if he ever gets back into power as it is in his DNA.


http://www.restoreaustralia.org.au/fabians-and-pm-gillard/

FFS, you've got to be kidding? How about some non-partisan "evidence" instead of this self-serving rubbish?

From your link (I was going to call it an article, but that would be too kind)

Over the past 120 years, Fabian Society members have been almost singularly responsible for creating Communism in Soviet Russia and Communist China, Fascism in Italy and Germany, and socialism generally throughout the world.

Bahahahahahahaahaha....Evidence?

The Fabianists believe in achieving their aims by stealth. They were opposed to the violent revolutions in Russia and China. Instead, they prefer to infiltrate into positions of power and then go about implementing their socialist agenda step by step. They operate so stealthily and operate so slowly, chipping away at the very fabric of society little by little, that most people don’t even notice they have lost their freedom until it is too late. At the same time, the Fabianists are extremely skilled at manipulating public opinion using emotive causes that sound so attractive that most people miss the sinister purpose behind them.

Ahhhhhh...Of course! No evidence because they do it by stealth! Curse those conniving Commies!

But wait, it gets even better!

Every UK Labor Prime Minister, from Ramsay MacDonald to Tony Blair, and Gordon Brown, has been a member of the Society. Today, well over 200 parliamentarians are members and the Fabian Society continues to be at the heart of the Labor movement.

There is no real difference between Fabianism and Leninist Communism. Both their goals are to impose collectivism. Communism sought to impose collectivism using overwhelming force. We have seen how that failed.

Tony Blair, the old Leninist. I'd love you to name a single Leninist policy of Blair's government.

Honestly who writes this cr@p?

 

[sinner]

FFS, you've got to be kidding? How about some non-partisan "evidence" instead of this self-serving rubbish?

The hilarious thing for me is that I ran across this site last night after googling "communist fabian green" last night looking for stuff to poke fun at the nocobot with, and dismissed it as too crazy, even for the nocobot.

I like how down the bottom they have a whole chunk about how Gillard is the evil privatiser, and privatisation is according to them part of the Fabian agenda.

Honestly who writes this cr@p?

Nominally? This guy:

Registrant:                      FOUNDATION FOR NATIONAL RENEWAL
Registrant ID:                   ABN 67078967960
Eligibility Type:                Other

Registrant Contact ID:           R-001382007-SN
Registrant Contact Name:         Mike Holt

Who also runs other awesome sites such as: islam4infidels.com ...lol.

But let's be realistic, it's unlikely that this is merely some guy. Usually these sorts of things are propaganda fronts for other parts of the right wing establishment which must remain appearing respectable.

 

[SirRumpole]

As well, we have been disarmed, a key element in the Fabian agenda.

Remind me again who introduced gun laws into Australia ?

Answer: That noted Fabian John Howard, and it was one of the best things he did.

 

[McLovin]

Who also runs other awesome sites such as: islam4infidels.com ...lol.

Sounds educational.

The hilarious thing for me is that I ran across this site last night after googling "communist fabian green" last night looking for stuff to poke fun at the nocobot with, and dismissed it as too crazy, even for the nocobot.

Lol...Have you read the comments? There is some genuine intellectual prowess on display. I get the feeling the people who read this stuff define a Fabian as someone who you blame for **** that is wrong in your life.

Diane Hanson (unfortunate surname given the subject) is a case in point...

We must give the people of Australia the power to tell the Governmnent what we want I work many years now and now waht do I get dearer power , petrol shopping is getting dearer so soon I wont be able to buy any thing we need to have our own milk producers back our farms back our own manfacturing back in Australia so our Grand Children will be able to get work we need more housing so we dont have people homeless we need Public Housing for all low income earners not just Centrelink people we need to have the sick looked after in the right places not for the man on the street to look after them the Governments have let us down so I say lets change the Consititution Power to the People / by the People /and for the People

The Fabians have also stolen Diane's full stop button.

Pubilc housing for people on low incomes sounds awfully Fabian to me.

But for mine, Barry Revett nails it...

Great Work keep it up the problem in Australia is Apathy ,we are so far from the rest of the World ,not many People believe ,that the Fabian Society Exists ,She Will Be Right ,BUTfor how long ,until an Arab comes to your Door and tells You that he owns the house ,because our Govt Borrowed Against it.We have to get that message out that it is Your House at risk and Your Freedom at risk.

Damn arabs.

 

[pixel]

Did anyone listen to Kevin Andrews' tirade last night? when he hinted at the "silent majority" being on his side?
He clearly proved the point that, to an ultra-right "fringe dweller", any slightly more rational opinion appears as a radical leftist position that has to be eradicated.

NB: A lunatic fringe exists at both ends of the political spectrum.

 

[Tisme]

Did anyone listen to Kevin Andrews' tirade last night? when he hinted at the "silent majority" being on his side?
He clearly proved the point that, to an ultra-right "fringe dweller", any slightly more rational opinion appears as a radical leftist position that has to be eradicated.

NB: A lunatic fringe exists at both ends of the political spectrum.

He's not alone it seems:

One of the first words Malcolm Turnbull heard after being named Australia's 29th Prime Minister on Monday night was a four-letter expletive, not fit for publication, hurled by one of Tony Abbott's junior staffers.

The story of Richard Dowdy's spill night insult has already become legend in Coalition staffer circles.

Mr Dowdy has been a staffer for Mr Abbott since late 2009, when the Member for Warringah knifed Malcolm Turnbull for the Liberal Party leadership.

Multiple sources have told Fairfax Media of Mr Dowdy's reaction to Mr Turnbull's successful wresting back of the top job nearly six years later.

One Liberal source recounted the incident.


"He said, 'Malcolm, Malcolm, Malcolm,' and then Malcolm turned around and he yelled 'you're a c---'."

The incident occurred late on Monday night after Mr Turnbull left the Blue Room in Parliament's Ministerial wing having delivered his first media conference as Prime Minister designate.

The newly minted prime minister was being accompanied by his wife Lucy and Deputy Liberal Leader Julie Bishop. Mr Dowdy was said to be in the cabinet anteroom when he approached the passing Prime Minister to dispatch the insult.

Mr Turnbull was said to be unperturbed by the encounter. Fairfax Media has made attempts to contact Mr Dowdy. Mr Dowdy worked for Mr Abbott as an advancer, scouting locations for media events and making preparations for public appearances.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...nbull-with-a-four-letter-expletive/ar-AAerhLN

 

[noco]

FFS, you've got to be kidding? How about some non-partisan "evidence" instead of this self-serving rubbish?

From your link (I was going to call it an article, but that would be too kind)



Bahahahahahahaahaha....Evidence?



Ahhhhhh...Of course! No evidence because they do it by stealth! Curse those conniving Commies!

But wait, it gets even better!



Tony Blair, the old Leninist. I'd love you to name a single Leninist policy of Blair's government.

Honestly who writes this cr@p?

Oh dear, even when I post a link aligning the Labor Party with the Fabian Society (communism) you still don't won't to accept it and instead you call it crap....You are either so naive or you just cannot accept the fact that the LUG party are closely associated with the Fabians.....Shhhhhh.....lets keep it a secret...Don't tell anybody...we don't really want people to know who we really are....All your comrades in the Green Party are all Fabians.....Lee Rhianna is a confessed communist.

If the Lug party renamed themselves the Communist Party, how long do you think they would last?...So they do it very subtly without the naive knowing it......they just keep chipping away bit by bit......They are not in a hurry to reach their goal.

And BTW where is the Labour Party in England now?

 

[McLovin]

Oh dear, even when I post a link aligning the Labor Party with the Fabian Society (communism) you still don't won't to accept it and instead you call it crap....You are either so naive or you just cannot accept the fact that the LUG party are closely associated with the Fabians.....Shhhhhh.....lets keep it a secret...Don't tell anybody...we don't really want people to know who we really are....All your comrades in the Green Party are all Fabians.....Lee Rhianna is a confessed communist.

If the Lug party renamed themselves the Communist Party, how long do you think they would last?...So they do it very subtly without the naive knowing it......they just keep chipping away bit by bit......They are not in a hurry to reach their goal.

And BTW where is the Labour Party in England now?

Thanks for the laugh, loco. Whoops, I mean noco.

 

[noco]

Thanks for the laugh, loco. Whoops, I mean noco.

The laugh is on you buddy not me......Perhaps you should rename yourself McJokin.

 

[Tisme]

Did anyone listen to Kevin Andrews' tirade last night? when he hinted at the "silent majority" being on his side?
He clearly proved the point that, to an ultra-right "fringe dweller", any slightly more rational opinion appears as a radical leftist position that has to be eradicated.

NB: A lunatic fringe exists at both ends of the political spectrum.

I should have also pointed out that it seems very strange that a man who supported the blockade of the ABC would resort to wasting taxpayer monies on the very same channel, looking for support, when everyone knows the station and its viewers are a cesspool of communists and fabians.

He would be much better addressing the nation on a neutral broadcaster's time, say Telstra/Foxtel .... you've never seen either of those companies and their directors benefit from political alliances.

 

[McLovin]

Did anyone listen to Kevin Andrews' tirade last night? when he hinted at the "silent majority" being on his side?
He clearly proved the point that, to an ultra-right "fringe dweller", any slightly more rational opinion appears as a radical leftist position that has to be eradicated.

NB: A lunatic fringe exists at both ends of the political spectrum.

Yes. Totally. But I'm fairly certain the right of the Liberal Party have yet to realise how unpopular Abbott was. Actually I think Abbott has yet to realise just how unpopular he was. The problem is that fools like Cory Bernardi are given oxygen by the media and so they start to believe that their views are mainstream when they are far from it.

 

[sinner]

Oh dear, even when I post a link aligning the Labor Party with the Fabian Society (communism) you still don't won't to accept it and instead you call it crap....

I guess it's difficult for some old people to realise this, but even a 12 year old could produce a website like that claiming anything. Actually a 12 year old would probably produce a slicker product.

I could setup a website called nocoscrewedaustralia.org.au that claims that the nocobot is responsible for all of our collective woes and it would cost me less than $50 to keep it running for a year. Does that make it true?

Posting links to random internet bull**** does not constitute evidence of anything except technical illiteracy or sheer naivete.

 

[galumay]

Noco, do your self a favour and read back thru the last couple of pages and engage in some serious self reflection.

You are drowning mate, posting crazy, extremist, conspiracy theory websites as some sort of evidence for opinions that are so far out of step with reality.

Everyone is trying to help you see how delusional a lot of this stuff you post is, and many of them are NOT supporters of the ALP, they are LNP supporters, but they too are trying to tell you that this constant shrill name calling and ad hominem attacks do nothing except alienate you.

The whole "reds under the bed" nonsense died out long ago.

One thing I learnt long ago in life is that if your views on something are really on the very extremity of of the bell curve, then you are probably due for some self reflection and genuine critical analysis of the views. If the sources for your information are also extremely biased towards the extremist end of the spectrum then you also need to look for more reliable sources, otherwise you are just going to be a victim of confirmation bias.

I say that as having been a full blown, bolted on, card carrying member of the Communist Party when it was actually a thing. (was refused a visa to the USA many years ago because of it!). I have also spent time in Cuba which blew away any last vestiges of belief in Communism as a viable political option.

It was the realisation that I was just as extremist, biased, polarised and paranoid as the right ring nut job extremists that I saw as the mortal enemy - we were one and the same, the extremities actually just come around and right and left meet in fascism.

Thats why I persist in bothering with trying to get you to see how irrational and delusional your opinions are, because I have been exactly like you when i was younger.

I think it was Bertrand Russell who said if you are not a communist before you are 30 then you have no heart, but if you are a communist after you are 30 you have no head! While that resonates with me, maybe there is a broader concept that holding extreme, polarised views based on an absolute or black and white view of the world is all very well when you are young and eager, but its not a good looker as you mature and become more experienced as a person!

 

[noco]

Noco, do your self a favour and read back thru the last couple of pages and engage in some serious self reflection.

You are drowning mate, posting crazy, extremist, conspiracy theory websites as some sort of evidence for opinions that are so far out of step with reality.

Everyone is trying to help you see how delusional a lot of this stuff you post is, and many of them are NOT supporters of the ALP, they are LNP supporters, but they too are trying to tell you that this constant shrill name calling and ad hominem attacks do nothing except alienate you.

The whole "reds under the bed" nonsense died out long ago.

One thing I learnt long ago in life is that if your views on something are really on the very extremity of of the bell curve, then you are probably due for some self reflection and genuine critical analysis of the views. If the sources for your information are also extremely biased towards the extremist end of the spectrum then you also need to look for more reliable sources, otherwise you are just going to be a victim of confirmation bias.

I say that as having been a full blown, bolted on, card carrying member of the Communist Party when it was actually a thing. (was refused a visa to the USA many years ago because of it!). I have also spent time in Cuba which blew away any last vestiges of belief in Communism as a viable political option.

It was the realisation that I was just as extremist, biased, polarised and paranoid as the right ring nut job extremists that I saw as the mortal enemy - we were one and the same, the extremities actually just come around and right and left meet in fascism.

Thats why I persist in bothering with trying to get you to see how irrational and delusional your opinions are, because I have been exactly like you when i was younger.

I think it was Bertrand Russell who said if you are not a communist before you are 30 then you have no heart, but if you are a communist after you are 30 you have no head! While that resonates with me, maybe there is a broader concept that holding extreme, polarised views based on an absolute or black and white view of the world is all very well when you are young and eager, but its not a good looker as you mature and become more experienced as a person!

You certainly did not research very far did you?

It took me just one minute for the link below and I will send you more progressively.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Fabian_Society

The Australian Fabians have historically had close ties with the Australian Labor Party, also known as the ALP. This is evidenced by the number of past ALP prime ministers, federal ministers and state premiers who were active members of the Australian Fabians while in office. The role of patron of the Australian Fabians is currently vacant, but ceremonially filled by former Australian prime minister, the late Gough Whitlam.[3] This is a temporary arrangement and the position will be filled when an appropriate person to fund and uphold the society's values is found.

The Australian Fabians have had a significant influence on public policy development in Australia since the Second World War,[citation needed] with many of its members having held influential political offices in Australian governments.[citation needed]

Notable members of the Fabian Society.

Notable members
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Gough Whitlam (ALP Prime Minister 1972–75)
Bob Hawke (ALP Prime Minister 1983–1991)
Paul Keating (ALP Prime Minister 1991–1996)
John Cain (ALP Premier of Victoria)
Jim Cairns (ALP Deputy Prime Minister)
Don Dunstan (ALP Premier of South Australia)
Geoff Gallop (ALP Premier of Western Australia)
Neville Wran (ALP Premier of NSW 1976–86)
Frank Crean (ALP Deputy Prime Minister)
Arthur Calwell (ALP Former Leader)
Race Mathews (ALP MHR and Victorian MLA)
John Faulkner (ALP Senator and National President)
Julia Gillard (ALP Australia's first female Prime Minister)
John Lenders (ALP Treasurer of Victoria)
Clarrie Martin (ALP Attorney General of New South Wales)
Tanya Plibersek (Federal member for Sydney (ALP) 1998 - )
Henry Hyde Champion (Journalist)
Nettie Palmer (Writer)
Charles Strong (Clergyman)
Charles Marson (Clergyman)
David Charleston (Trade Unionist)
Bernard O'Dowd (Writer)
Phillip Adams (Broadcaster)



https://www.laborherald.com.au/politics/8-things-you-probably-didnt-know-about-fabians/

6. Some of your favourite Labor identities are Fabians

Did you know that four of the last five Labor Prime Ministers were Fabians? Or that state Premiers like Geoff Gallop, John Cain and Don Dunstan were also Fabians?

We count amongst our members Tanya Plibersek, Chris Bowen, Jenny McAllister, Tim Watts, Stephen Jones, Wayne Swan, Andrew Leigh, Julie Collins, Claire Moore Luke Foley and many more.

1. The Fabian motto is ‘educate, agitate and organise’

Radical Irish playwright George Bernard Shaw helped found the Fabians and famously described the Fabian mission as “educate, agitate, organise”.