Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[SirRumpole]

Basilio, you think Bill Clinton wouldn't talk like that? I'd bet all American Presidents have talked like that at some point in their lives.

Kennedy was a noted womaniser, but if he had been found out beforehand would he have won the election ? He was lucky his apparachiks managed to keep it quiet.

A lot of Republicans are religious, these revelations will do Trump no good with that demographic.

 

[explod]

Basilio, you think Bill Clinton wouldn't talk like that? I'd bet all American Presidents have talked like that at some point in their lives.

Agree, some of the filthy views and talk I saw as a policeman would make people squirm forever. Human nature I'm afraid.

Trump is a victim of his stupidity, obvious bad upbringing, modern recording and mass public social media. FBI would be onto him also to ensure Clinton win.

Very interesting times.

 

[Gringotts Bank]

Agree, some of the filthy views and talk I saw as a policeman would make people squirm forever. Human nature I'm afraid.

Trump is a victim of his stupidity, obvious bad upbringing, modern recording and mass public social media. FBI would be onto him also to ensure Clinton win.

Very interesting times.

My language isn't much better. But then again I'm not running for Pres.

Actually the language wasn't the issue, it was the attitude of ownership/entitlement which didn't sound right.

 

[McLovin]

There's a bit of a difference between trying to f**k anything and talking the way Trump did about women. Clinton is a womaniser, but I don't think he's cut from the same mould as Trump. When I was 15 I had dinner with then Prez Bill and Hilary. I have never met a more charming guy than Bill. He was a guy who could make you feel like you could do absolutely anything. It doesn't surprise me that he does well with the gals.

 

[noco]

There's a bit of a difference between trying to f**k anything and talking the way Trump did about women. Clinton is a womaniser, but I don't think he's cut from the same mould as Trump. When I was 15 I had dinner with then Prez Bill and Hilary. I have never met a more charming guy than Bill. He was a guy who could make you feel like you could do absolutely anything. It doesn't surprise me that he does well with the gals.

Yeah..just ask Monica.

 

[McLovin]

Yeah..just ask Monica.

About what?

 

[noco]

About what?

The pleasure she gave Bill.

 

[McLovin]

The pleasure she gave Bill.

It seems to have left its mark.

 

[basilio]

The lewd comments that Trump makes regarding women is not the reason he should never be President. It is just the sum total of his abuse of Mexicans, Muslims, women, his abuse of thousands employees and contractors, the American tax system and god knows what else (The Pope ?). His incapacity to be a leader with the temperament to be Commander in Chief of the most powerful arsenal on earth is just so obvious ...

How many millions of reasons does one need to realise he should never have gotten as close as he has to being Prez? Just crazy stuff.

Anyway it looks as if the Trump train has gone over the cliff and is hurtling into the abyss. Of course no one will actually get hurt until it hits the ground... Meanwhile any Republican with more than two brain cells that will light up has jumped train and is hoping their handkerchiefs will work as a parachute. Good luck to them...

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Top Republican women turn their anger on Donald Trump
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Washington: Initially a slow burn, the Republican mutiny over what amounted to Donald Trump's admission of sexual assaults became turbo-charged only when key Republican women vented their anger, through a day in which Trump's position was made more precarious as the GOP seemingly stumbled towards the unprecedented abandonment of its own nominee.

By late Saturday, at least 35 Republican members of congress and governors who had previously blessed Trump's controversial nomination withdrew their endorsement – with the call by many for him to be dropped from the ticket signalling their sense that Trump has become an existential threat to what is dubbed the party of Lincoln.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/wor...ican-women-turn-on-trump-20161009-gry7yq.html

 

[McLovin]

The lewd comments that Trump makes regarding women is not the reason he should never be President. It is just the sum total of his abuse of Mexicans, Muslims, women, his abuse of thousands employees and contractors, the American tax system and god knows what else (The Pope ?). His incapacity to be a leader with the temperament to be Commander in Chief of the most powerful arsenal on earth is just so obvious ...

How many millions of reasons does one need to realise he should never have gotten as close as he has to being Prez? Just crazy stuff.

Anyway it looks as if the Trump train has gone over the cliff and is hurtling into the abyss. Of course no one will actually get hurt until it hits the ground... Meanwhile any Republican with more than two brain cells that will light up has jumped train and is hoping their handkerchiefs will work as a parachute. Good luck to them...

More than anything it shows the end of the Republican party. A party of government should never put forward a candidate as woeful as Trump. They're about to get chewed up and spat out.

 

[basilio]

Thought Robert De Niro summed up Trump as comprehensively as anyone. Nice video

See Robert De Niro Eviscerate Trump: 'I'd Like to Punch Him in the Face'

"He's so blatantly stupid. He's a punk. He's a dog. He's a pig. He's a con, a bull**** artist," actor says of candidate

http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...iro-eviscerate-blatantly-stupid-trump-w444029

 

[Gringotts Bank]

Thought Robert De Niro summed up Trump as comprehensively as anyone. Nice video



http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...iro-eviscerate-blatantly-stupid-trump-w444029

I thought you were against verbal abuse?

"That revolting, abusive, brain dead, disrespectful bag of ****e"... is abusive language, is it not?

Or is it that abuse it acceptable when you or De Niro do it, but not others?

 

[Knobby22]

Basilio, you think Bill Clinton wouldn't talk like that? I'd bet all American Presidents have talked like that at some point in their lives.

Do you talk like that? I don't. Do you force yourself onto women and grope them? Do you think groping is OK? Do you think Rolf Harris was hard done by? Do you think that all the women coming out saying Trump did it to them are lying?

Do you think you would want someone like that to be your bank manager? Head of a public company? An Obudsman? Head of the Reserve bank?

What about US President?

 

[Gringotts Bank]

Do you talk like that?

Nope. I'd appreciate if you'd take your aggression out on a more appropriate target. Or even better, don't attack anyone at all. If you'd read my previous posts before flying off the handle you'd get an idea of my view on Trump.

 

[luutzu]

There's a bit of a difference between trying to f**k anything and talking the way Trump did about women. Clinton is a womaniser, but I don't think he's cut from the same mould as Trump. When I was 15 I had dinner with then Prez Bill and Hilary. I have never met a more charming guy than Bill. He was a guy who could make you feel like you could do absolutely anything. It doesn't surprise me that he does well with the gals.

Yea, Bill is a real charmer. Like all other snake oil salesman. I'm sure the people of Haiti found him and his Foundation to have been wonderful too.

We seriously think Bill and Hill have better character and moral than Trump?

Trump uses his money, fame and power to attract and abuse women... Bill doesn't? Women just fall all over themselves and Bill just didn't stop them? He didn't put on that Southern charm, I feel your pain puppy-eyed presidential power to bed women?

 

[McLovin]

We seriously think Bill and Hill have better character and moral than Trump?

Nope. Do I think they have a better idea of the world around them? Yep.

Trump, and the dullards who support him, live in some other world; populism is a powerful drug.

 

[luutzu]

Nope. Do I think they have a better idea of the world around them? Yep.

Trump, and the dullards who support him, live in some other world; populism is a powerful drug.

I don't think the Clintons really have a clue about the real world.

Sure they know how to play the game, know how to politics and bargains and win friends in high places... but that ain't the real world.

The real world is where the normal poor plebs lives. And in that world, the Clintons have no clue. If they have had any clue, their policies would be drastically different. If Hillary know what's going on in the world of her subject are living in, she'd be saying the same stuff Bernie Sanders have said, and FDR have done, and she really mean it.

For her to parrot what Sanders are saying, then behind closed doors smugly tell her donors those Sanders ideas are crazy and unrealistic.. .that's someone who doesn't give a crap, and doesn't have a clue.

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Trump's supporters are not all racist and stupid idiots like they're made out to be.

They're real people who've been screwed by both parties and are clinging to any hope for a change.

To have the likes of Hillary carrying on business as usual - where on the Right, those angry and left behind are called stupid racist; and on the Left are call young stupid idealist... and where Hillary is the realistic adults governing for all "moderate" Americans - that's the kind of hubris and stupidity that will bring the house down.


The great thing about democracy is that its free speech and elections allow the public to vent their grievances. Smart leaders would listen and start to not push their luck.

Here, the establishment just shrugs off the popularity of a no-body "radical" socialist as some accident; then at the same time shrugs off the right-wing nut job that is Trump as also an accident.

So the US can either keep going the way it has and just militarize the police and crack harder on protestors and jailing activists... or it could start to listen and really address the grievances. Because real change is coming, peacefully or otherwise - there's mass demand for it and so far no one's delivering.

 

[McLovin]

I don't think the Clintons really have a clue about the real world.

I made a relative statement.

Trump's supporters are not all racist and stupid idiots like they're made out to be.

They're not all racists I agree. If you really believe Donald Trump will fix your problems then yes, you are stupid.

 

[luutzu]

I made a relative statement.



They're not all racists I agree. If you really believe Donald Trump will fix your problems then yes, you are stupid.

Yea, as stupid as someone who actually believe Hillary Clinton will fix anyone's problem. Unless her corporate pals run into problem, forget about it.

It's stupid to do the same thing hoping for different results. So for Trump supporters, at least they're not voting for the same old bs believing it'll be different this time. That take some smarts.

Name one thing Hillary have done that has help the average American, or help make the world a more peaceful place.

Gun control? Healthcare? Regulate predatory lending? Financial regulation? Negotiate with enemies instead of pushing to overthrow or flatten them; taking on Russia; seriously question why the US can't just drone Wikileak's Assange - like, she seriously ask why Assange can't be bombed.

 

[McLovin]

Name one thing Hillary have done that has help the average American, or help make the world a more peaceful place.

Did I say anywhere that she has or would? She isn't the one running around yelling about "making America great again".