Excellent analysis by Michelle Grattan, I think she is spot on. If Trump does us a favour this time, what will he expect in return down the track ?
Grattan on Friday: Malcolm Turnbull should walk away from refugee deal
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-...-turnbull-walk-away-from-refugee-deal/8238458
Of course it is. I know the answer.
Many years ago I recall a guy at uni who was Indian. In those days universities were pretty much white and no one really associated with him (that was the norm). But he was quite a funny guy and I'd sometimes knock about with him in tutes, though not socialize. One day he asks me to a party at his house. I go and am met with maybe 150 Indians crowded into this small house. I was the only white. I didn't like the food, the music, the conversation, the throng of cousins, aunties and uncles. What are you saying, I should have made more of an effort? I know what I like, and it wasn't that.
Obviously, your common ground was your association at uni. If you didn't like his parties you didn't have to go, but I don't see that as a reason to dump him completely. You could have invited him to a party where he was the only Indian.
What I learned from that and a few other experiences is that cultures are mechanisms of identity, and as such, they seek to dominate and spread their influence. It's a competition and there's just no getting around that fact. A competition for space and resources; a place where if you don't dominate, you're being dominated. It all looks friendly on the surface, but cultures are simple expressions of mass egoic drive.
So getting back onto Trump - he is clearly seeking to promote and maintain Anglo-Celtic culture. He recognizes it's a competition. If we had Ellen Degeneres as President, she would be even more extreme in pushing her culture which is one of female superiority and lesbianism. Like Hillary, she would promote herself as egalitarian, then discriminate against everyone who is different to her. Human nature is pretty ugly. I'm not excusing Trump, but at least he is up front about what he's doing.
That's one attitude towards it.What I learned from that and a few other experiences is that cultures are mechanisms of identity, and as such, they seek to dominate and spread their influence. It's a competition and there's just no getting around that fact. A competition for space and resources; a place where if you don't dominate, you're being dominated. It all looks friendly on the surface, but cultures are simple expressions of mass egoic drive.
Excellent analysis by Michelle Grattan, I think she is spot on. If Trump does us a favour this time, what will he expect in return down the track ?
Grattan on Friday: Malcolm Turnbull should walk away from refugee deal
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-...-turnbull-walk-away-from-refugee-deal/8238458
I agree with that. We don't need to get on Trump's merry-go-round.
There is little doubt in my mind Obama has tricked Turnbull in Turnbull's desperation to remove asylum seekers from Manus and Nauru.
Perhaps Turnbull should have been more astute and checked to see if Trump approved before accepting Obama's deal.
Latham: Obama has played dreadful role
Former federal Labor leader and now political commentator Mark Latham has told Seven’s Sunrise program that Barack Obama “put a little ticking time bomb in the White House desk”.
“It is very, very important to get the full picture here. Everyone is talking about Trump and Turnbull. What about the third person in this deal, Obama?” Latham said.
2Mark Latham.
2Mark Latham.
“He played a dreadful role in the handover period from Trump selection to the inauguration. And Obama has gone out of his way to put a little ticking time bomb in the White House desk, for Donald Trump, by forcing him to either break his election promise to the American people with this sort of refugee intake not coming into the United States, or for Trump to disappoint the Turnbull government and loosen some of the relations with a longtime ally in Australia.
“So Obama here has played dreadful role in forcing his successor into making an awkward choice between an election promise, a commitment to the American people, or a commitment to Australia…
...blah blah
theaustralian.com.au
In Sept Obama announced he would increase the intake from 85k to 110k. The Nauru and Manus prisoners were ideal because they had already been vetted by numerous authorities.
In December there were various articles about Trump probably reneging on the deal.
Vetting, yes.
Some American comedian on YouTube made a point that all these years, we've either starve or bomb the crap out of all these countries and not too much noise was raised about it.
Yeh it's alright to murder in cold blood, but don't ever deny anyone access to your country, even if they suck the lifeblood out of social services and plot to bring down western civilization. Goes to show how f#cking dumb lefties are.
You reckon "peace loving" religions like Islam is the Trojan horse and the west is Troy?
Not sure if I'd put it like that. Most Muslims are simply after a better life, more money and a peaceful existence. They come to Aus and the US because, aside from a few well-known exceptions, the M.E. is a sh1thole and no one would in their right mind would choose that over Western civilization. They get here and find these enormous cultural differences. Welfare services get overwhelmed and they become totally segregated from the rest of the population. It's just the most idiotic process. The UN, who never seem to lift a goddamn finger to help anyone, leave conflicts to the US army to sort out. US forces shouldn't even be there in the first place, but the UN is happy for them to do the dirty work because the UN is gutless and irresponsible.
In Sept Obama announced he would increase the intake from 85k to 110k. The Nauru and Manus prisoners were ideal because they had already been vetted by numerous authorities.
In December there were various articles about Trump probably reneging on the deal.
You reckon "peace loving" religions like Islam is the Trojan horse and the west is Troy?
Not sure if I'd put it like that. Most Muslims are simply after a better life, more money and a peaceful existence. They come to Aus and the US because, aside from a few well-known exceptions, the M.E. is a sh1thole and no one would in their right mind would choose that over Western civilization. They get here and find these enormous cultural differences. Welfare services get overwhelmed and they become totally segregated from the rest of the population. It's just the most idiotic process. The UN, who never seem to lift a goddamn finger to help anyone, leave conflicts to the US army to sort out. US forces shouldn't even be there in the first place, but the UN is happy for them to do the dirty work because the UN is gutless and irresponsible.
Yeh it's alright to murder in cold blood, but don't ever deny anyone access to your country, even if they suck the lifeblood out of social services and plot to bring down western civilization. Goes to show how f#cking dumb lefties are.
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