Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[Tisme]

While every citizen of the USA has the right to a political voice, Meryl Streep is more entitled than others. Who else would understand trial by media and the famous than the woman who mastered the Australian accent :

 

[moXJO]

While every citizen of the USA has the right to a political voice, Meryl Streep is more entitled than others. Who else would understand trial by media and the famous than the woman who mastered the Australian accent :

Yes, totally agree. Thank God for white entitled female's telling the rest of us what to think. Where would we be without Hollywood actors guiding us in our life decisions

 

[Tisme]

Yes, totally agree. Thank God for white entitled female's telling the rest of us what to think. Where would we be without Hollywood actors guiding us in our life decisions

If not on stage then in fatigues as part of Team America....f#@k yeah!!

 

[Tisme]

Tom Hardy:

"We take Gotham from the corrupt! The rich! The oppressors of generations who have kept you down with myths of opportunity, and we give it back to you... the people. Gotham is yours. None shall interfere. Do as you please. Start by storming Blackgate, and freeing the oppressed! Step forward those who would serve. For and army will be raised. The powerful will be ripped from their decadent nests, and cast out into the cold world that we know and endure. Courts will be convened. Spoils will be enjoyed. Blood will be shed. The police will survive, as they learn to serve true justice. This great city... it will endure. Gotham will survive!"

Trump today:

"Today's ceremony, however has very special meaning. Because today, we are not merely transferring power from one administration to another or from one party to another. But we are transferring power from Washington D.C. and giving it back to you... the people. For too long a small group in our nation's capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have born the cost. Washington flourished but the people did not share in its wealth. Politicians prospered but the jobs left and the factories closed. The establishment protected itself but not the citizens of our country. Their victories have not been your victories. Their triumphs have not been your triumphs and while they celebrated in our nation's capital, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land. That all changes starting right here and right now because this moment is your moment. It belongs to you."

 

[dutchie]

Turnbull or LNP or Shorten or Labor adjusting to the new world (to Australia's advantage) under the Trump Presidency.................... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

 

[Smurf1976]

Well here we are. Donald Trump is now the actual President of the United States.

So what happens now?

My expectation is that reality at best matches the hype and more likely falls short. Political promises are rarely exceeded and I can't see Trump being different there. For the record I'd say the same no matter who had been elected or what party they represent - political promises are rarely exceeded no matter who makes them and typically reality falls short of the hype.

That being so, with markets seemingly already having priced in some sort of golden era under Trump, I'm thinking that the only way now would seem to be sideways or more likely down since the best case is already priced in and at best will be met and more likely fall short.

Thoughts?

 

[SirRumpole]

Thoughts?

I come back to asking where he is going to get the money for all his promises. Infrastructure, military expansion and The Wall. Will he borrow it or just print it ? And what will be the effect on the US economy and it's subsequent effect on the rest of the world ?

There could be a temporary economic resurgence but typically with that sort of personality in charge a few will get very rich and the rest won't gain much, and probably in the future money will have to be found to fund an almost certain expanded deficit.

 

[luutzu]

I come back to asking where he is going to get the money for all his promises. Infrastructure, military expansion and The Wall. Will he borrow it or just print it ? And what will be the effect on the US economy and it's subsequent effect on the rest of the world ?

There could be a temporary economic resurgence but typically with that sort of personality in charge a few will get very rich and the rest won't gain much, and probably in the future money will have to be found to fund an almost certain expanded deficit.

They'll do as they have always done: borrow, then print to cheapen the amount owed.

But that's not going to be enough, as it has never been enough... so you get those who have always pay for these kind of things: the law abiding tax payers (the plebs who can't afford tax havens or good advisors), and they'll double pay when their infrastructure and utilities and other "freebies" are reduced and cut, cost of living goes up....

It's what honest economists and political observers call public funding but private wealth.

 

[noco]

I come back to asking where he is going to get the money for all his promises. Infrastructure, military expansion and The Wall. Will he borrow it or just print it ? And what will be the effect on the US economy and it's subsequent effect on the rest of the world ?

There could be a temporary economic resurgence but typically with that sort of personality in charge a few will get very rich and the rest won't gain much, and probably in the future money will have to be found to fund an almost certain expanded deficit.

The deficit under Obama is the highest in the history of the USA and is typical of the way a socialist manages the economy..... We are talking trillions.

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There are three things I would like see Trump undertake :-

a) Pull out of the corrupt Green United Nations.

b) Tear up the Paris Climate Change agreement as it is nothing more than a scam at the hands of the UN.

c) Stop Muslim immigration and deport all illegals.

Lots of money can be saved there but don't ask me to put a figure on it.....I do know Obama handed over a cheque for $500,000,000 to the UN Climate Change committee only last week.

 

[luutzu]

The deficit under Obama is the highest in the history of the USA and is typical of the way a socialist manages the economy..... We are talking trillions.

There are three things I would like see Trump undertake :-

a) Pull out of the corrupt Green United Nations.

b) Tear up the Paris Climate Change agreement as it is nothing more than a scam at the hands of the UN.

c) Stop Muslim immigration and deport all illegals.

Lots of money can be saved there but don't ask me to put a figure on it.....I do know Obama handed over a cheque for $500,000,000 to the UN Climate Change committee only last week.

Obama is a Socialist alright. Corporate socialist.

Bailing out Wall St and Corporate America to the tune of a few trillions, yes, trillions.

But to be fair, he did give the plebs $1Billion to bail them out of their mortgages in the GFC... just the criteria are so tough practically none of that money was ever claimed.

That and he did give the poisoned people of Flint water filter. One per family.

Woohoo.

 

[noco]

Obama is a Socialist alright. Corporate socialist.

Bailing out Wall St and Corporate America to the tune of a few trillions, yes, trillions.

But to be fair, he did give the plebs $1Billion to bail them out of their mortgages in the GFC... just the criteria are so tough practically none of that money was ever claimed.

That and he did give the poisoned people of Flint water filter. One per family.

Woohoo.

And Obama leaves his office dirty and untidy for Trump to clean up...Typical socialist tactics......Borrow to the kilt and let the new government worry about how to pay it back......Nice fellow that Obama.

 

[SirRumpole]

And Obama leaves his office dirty and untidy for Trump to clean up...Typical socialist tactics......Borrow to the kilt and let the new government worry about how to pay it back......Nice fellow that Obama.

Trump is not worrying about paying anything back. He's promised tax cuts and increased spending. What do you think that will do to debt and deficit ?

 

[noco]

Trump is not worrying about paying anything back. He's promised tax cuts and increased spending. What do you think that will do to debt and deficit ?

He will no doubt make savings else where.....Like the UN....Paris Climate Change agreement...less foreign aid.....less social welfare by cutting out immigration from the ME...less spending on fighting other nations battles.....Guess you will have to wait and see.

 

[luutzu]

He will no doubt make savings else where.....Like the UN....Paris Climate Change agreement...less foreign aid.....less social welfare by cutting out immigration from the ME...less spending on fighting other nations battles.....Guess you will have to wait and see.

Yes, $100B for military bases per year; wars all over the entire Middle East with Iraq and Afghanistan costing about $5 trillions and counting; Averaging one military operations in Africa every two days; proxy wars with Russia; new deployments to Poland and other Western European states (weren't Poland used to be East European?)... there's a couple of coup in South America just the last couple of years... and now pivoting to Asia to take on China....

but ladies and gentleman, it's those social welfare, UN funding that's causing the deficit problem.

 

[luutzu]

And Obama leaves his office dirty and untidy for Trump to clean up...Typical socialist tactics......Borrow to the kilt and let the new government worry about how to pay it back......Nice fellow that Obama.

I heard Trump have Obama's purple drapes in the oval office replaced with gold ones. Seriously, read it on Reuters.

Five bucks the oval office will be all marbled and brass and shiny soon.

 

[noco]

I heard Trump have Obama's purple drapes in the oval office replaced with gold ones. Seriously, read it on Reuters.

Five bucks the oval office will be all marbled and brass and shiny soon.

And why not?

 

[noco]

Yes, $100B for military bases per year; wars all over the entire Middle East with Iraq and Afghanistan costing about $5 trillions and counting; Averaging one military operations in Africa every two days; proxy wars with Russia; new deployments to Poland and other Western European states (weren't Poland used to be East European?)... there's a couple of coup in South America just the last couple of years... and now pivoting to Asia to take on China....

but ladies and gentleman, it's those social welfare, UN funding that's causing the deficit problem.

Where on Earth did you get all those figures?.....Care to back it up.

 

[luutzu]

And why not?

True. Why not.

Just some foreign dignitaries might not take you seriously in all that gold.

 

[moXJO]

True. Why not.

Just some foreign dignitaries might not take you seriously in all that gold.

The poster on the wall saying "We can nuke you into dust" should balance that out.

 

[luutzu]

The poster on the wall saying "We can nuke you into dust" should balance that out.

Nukes are useless.

For one, if you use it on defenceless state you'd also destroy all the potential loots and land grab that put you into that liberation mood in the first place.

For two, if you use nuke against state that can retaliate you and the world goes to heck too.

And that's ignoring the war crimes, genocidal nonsense international laws and hippies UN countries are on about.