Funny how trump derangement brings out insults and little else. Wake me up when Trump is actually impeached for something.
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The final sentence of that article say it all.
It's those chattering class fools who feel dispossessed of their hitherto voices who are the real problem here; babies who have had their self righteous candies taken from them.
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Now this is wisdom!
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Wisdom is only bestowed on those who agree with ones own point of view.
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I wonder when the FBI became the goto man for permission of a president, or citizen to engage with someone else? Is the USA at war with Russia, coz I missed the declaration if that's the case.?
Ever since J Edgar Hoover was tarting it up.
Can we at least wait for a credible candidate to emergeBetter make that a quick nap then
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Mo's gonna hate me
You peaked my interest. Geez Donald Jnr has a habit of spilling the beans doesn't he. Found this
"That so many of the transactions and behaviors of the Trump business empire and Michael Cohen’s empire appear to hew so closely to the well-known patterns and stages of money laundering deeply troubles Sharma."
https://www.wired.com/story/if-trump-is-laundering-russian-money-heres-how-it-works/amp
You peaked my interest. Geez Donald Jnr has a habit of spilling the beans doesn't he. Found this
"That so many of the transactions and behaviors of the Trump business empire and Michael Cohen’s empire appear to hew so closely to the well-known patterns and stages of money laundering deeply troubles Sharma."
https://www.wired.com/story/if-trump-is-laundering-russian-money-heres-how-it-works/amp
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I also have an experience with a Trump-like personality.
The narcissistic individual attracts many followers and fans, as they perceive him to be charismatic and strong. The reality is that it will all blow up at some point, and there will be no winners, least of all his fans.
The best course of action is to stay away and enjoy your life, let others deal with the bullsh!t.
Thats a lot of assumptions (could be plausible). But still not a lot to pin him with yet. Given his dodgy business dealings, you can't rule it out.Mo's gonna hate me
You peaked my interest. Geez Donald Jnr has a habit of spilling the beans doesn't he. Found this
"That so many of the transactions and behaviors of the Trump business empire and Michael Cohen’s empire appear to hew so closely to the well-known patterns and stages of money laundering deeply troubles Sharma."
https://www.wired.com/story/if-trump-is-laundering-russian-money-heres-how-it-works/amp
The Magnitsky Act can grab any overseas loot if found to be from the Russian human rights abusers (I wonder who decides if you are a Russian badie). So Russians do try to hide or wash their cash. I know Putin mentioned browder in the "swap". So Putin is obviously pssed about it.
Still its all speculation. Whats solid at this time?
Hillarys team engaged the Russians for a dirt file through associates.
They got a suspect warrant.
Russian meddling and collusion with the Russians are two different things. We apparently have Russian meddling so far.
Russia blasts propaganda every election. But they don’t import 3 million hillbillies to swing a vote.
The US does similar propaganda drives and a lot worse in their hacks.
It's actually a really interesting story that will eventually come to full light (hopefully).
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Any of us who have had to deal with a sociopath like Donald Trump would readily understand and agree with these observations.
The scary part is that this sociopath heads the most powerful country in the world. Like all socipaths he has no regard for conventions that don't suit him - hence refusing to table tax returns, conducting international diplomacy via Twitter, lying through his teeth to the point that nothing he says can be taken as accurate without independent evidence.
Darc Night made a point about the Russian financial connections being the hold Putin has on Trump. These have been explored a number of times but when they are brought together in one package (with credible evidence) the dots are well joined. Check out this .
I would have like to just pinned a few paragraphs and given the link but that I can't find the story as presented here on their wedbsite ! I have therefore posted the whole article.
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Dear friends,
It’s now shockingly clear that Donald Trump is Putin’s poodle.
But we need the world to understand why, before it’s too late…
Trump's businesses went bankrupt so many times in the 1990s that many legitimate banks wouldn’t lend to him anymore. He turned to Russian oligarchs -- Putin’s ruling clique -- to bankroll his projects, and launder their dirty money for them. This was, and continues to be, a huge part of his business. He’s a Russian money launderer.
"We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia."
Donald Trump JR, 2014
This isn’t speculation or hyperbole. There's mountains of evidence. Trump’s former election campaign Chairman, Paul Manafort, has deep ties to Russian oligarchs, and is currently in jail awaiting trial on, among other charges, money laundering!
Here are 5 more top facts everyone should know about Trump's long collusion with Russian organised criminals -- forward this email and share it on Facebook -- we all deserve to know the truth:
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Trump’s main financial backer for the Trump Tower Toronto was a Russian-Canadian billionaire who got the money by selling a massive steel mill in Ukraine for nearly a billion dollars. $100 million of that money was paid to a Kremlin-backed fixer, likely as a bribe to VERY high Russian officials. The Chairman of the Bank who financed the deal? Vladimir Putin.
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Trump bought his home in Palm Beach, Florida for $41 million. A few years later, with no real increase in the value -- he sold it for $95 million -- the most expensive home in America at the time! Why? A major Russian oligarch bought it -- we don’t know yet why he effectively ‘gave’ Trump $54 million. But it’s classic money laundering practice.
3
Trump's real estate deals were often fuelled by Russian money, typically passed through shady shell companies. 77% of Trump Soho apartments were bought with cash by such mysterious companies. At least 13 people with links to Russian oligarchs or mobsters lived in Trump properties, including one of Russia's top mobsters. One even ran a high-stakes illegal gambling ring in the apartment right below Trump's!
"Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets"
Donald Trump JR, 2008
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Trump’s financial broker and “Senior Advisor” was a Russian convicted felon named Felix Sater, widely known as a mafia figure who once stabbed someone in the face with a broken margarita glass, requiring over 100 stitches. Sater helped set up shell companies, and arranged funding for Trump’s projects, including plans for Trump Tower Moscow. He’s also part of Putin’s inner circle. Here’s one email he wrote to Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen in November, 2015:
"Michael I arranged for Ivanka to sit in Putins private chair at his desk and office in the Kremlin. I will get Putin on this program and we will get Donald elected. We both know no one else knows how to pull this off without stupidity or greed getting in the way. I know how to play it and we will get this done. Buddy our boy can become President of the USA and we can engineer it. I will get all of Putins team to buy in on this, I will."
New York Times, August 27, 2017
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Trump’s other main business is casinos -- which are classic money laundering vehicles. One of his casinos was 100 times found in violation of federal rules protecting against money laundering, and paid the largest fine ever levied against a casino for having “willfully violated” anti-money laundering rules. Trump has a legal obligation to do “due diligence” for all his businesses to prevent laundering. His senior executive’s comment on this was “Donald doesn’t do diligence”.
The Big Picture
Putin is a former KGB officer who has used chemical weapons, assassinated people in other countries, invaded the Ukraine, occupied Crimea, shot down the MH17 airliner with almost 300 passengers on board, aided a murderous regime in Syria, condoned the beating and torture of gays, stolen up to $200 billion from his own people, hacked foreign elections and launched what NATO calls the largest hybrid warfare campaign in history to undermine western liberal democracies. He is also widely believed to have ordered the murder of Russian journalists and critics, and bombed hundreds of Russian civilians to fake a terrorist attack and justify a war in Chechnya.
Yet when asked at their press conference if Trump had any criticism of Putin, he had none, and ridiculed US law enforcement for investigating Russian attacks on US democracy!
Why? Trump has been working for Putin's corrupt inner circle for almost 20 years. And it's that corrupt circle that promises to make him rich for the next 20 (he's refused, in violation of all ethics, to divest from his businesses as President).
Trump *may* be a Russian intelligence asset, he *may* have colluded with Putin to sabotage the US election. But what is clear is that he is a corrupt Russian money launderer, in the pocket of a KGB dictator. The whole world needs to know this, and rally together to prevent the damage this corrupt alliance threatens. Share this email with everyone…
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With hope,
Ricken, Emma, Rewan, Joseph, Morgan, Spyro, Flora and the whole Avaaz team
PS -- scroll down for a TON of credible, trustworthy, fact-checked sources for everything in this email. Avaaz isn't one of those absurd troll publications that slings lies for profit -- we're a nonprofit, and every time we make an error anywhere, we publish the correction on our accuracy page, linked from the front of our website.
PPS -- if Trump the 'organized criminal money launderer' sounds like a stretch to you, consider it just the tip of the iceberg of Trump's known corruption:
- His 'charitable foundation' is likely to be shut down for multiple examples of fraud.
- Trump 'University' scammed legions of vulnerable people out of their money.
- He had an affair with a pornstar and paid her to keep quiet -- she says she was also threatened with physical violence.
- His ex-wife attested in court documents that he brutally raped her while tearing out her hair after he didn't like the hair replacement doctor she recommended.
- He bragged, on tape, about sexually assaulting multiple women.
- Hundreds of people hired by Trump say he simply decided not to pay them for their work -- including dishwashers, painters and waiters, some of whom were making minimum wage.
- He has been sued, and forced to pay out settlements, over a hundred times.
MORE INFORMATION
Trump’s Russian Laundromat (The New Republic)
https://newrepublic.com/article/143...ses-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate
Everything We Know About Russia and President Trump (Committee to Investigate Russia)
https://investigaterussia.org/timelines/everything-we-know-about-russia-and-president-trump
Secret Money: How Trump Made Millions Selling Condos To Unknown Buyers (Buzzfeed News)
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...ney-how-trump-made-millions-selling-condos-to
Trump’s Russian connections (Financial Times)
https://ig.ft.com/sites/trumps-russian-connections/
Dirty money: Trump and the Kazakh connection (Financial Times)
https://www.ft.com/content/33285dfa-9231-11e6-8df8-d3778b55a923
Trump's oldest son said a decade ago that a lot of the family's assets came from Russia (Business Insider)
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-jr-said-money-pouring-in-from-russia-2018-2
Sales of Trump properties suggestive of money-laundering - researcher (Reuters)
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-u...-of-money-laundering-researcher-idUKKBN1F8058
Tower of secrets: the Russian money behind a Donald Trump skyscraper (Financial Times)
https://www.ft.com/trumptoronto
Trump Tower Toronto Was 'Investment Scheme And Conspiracy': Lawsuit (Huffington Post)
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/11/07/trump-tower-toronto-lawsuit_n_12849150.html?guccounter=1
If Trump Is Laundering Russian Money, Here’s How It Works (Wired)
https://www.wired.com/story/if-trump-is-laundering-russian-money-heres-how-it-works/
Trump's casino was a money laundering concern shortly after it opened (CNN)
https://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/22/politics/trump-taj-mahal/index.html
Donald Trump and the mansion that no one wanted. Then came a Russian fertilizer king (Miami Herald)
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article135187364.html
Everything you want to know about Donald Trump's bankruptcies (CNN)
https://money.cnn.com/2015/08/31/news/companies/donald-trump-bankruptcy/
Canada's highest court upholds ruling that Donald Trump did mislead investors (The Independent)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...legal-case-against-us-president-a7623566.html
Russian elite invested nearly $100 million in Trump buildings (Reuters)
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-property/
Why did a Russian pay $95M to buy Trump’s Palm Beach mansion? (The Seattle Times)
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation...ian-pay-95m-to-buy-trumps-palm-beach-mansion/
The Russia investigation and Donald Trump: a timeline from on-the-record sources (updated) (Politifact)
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-investigation-donald-trump-timeline-updated/
Here are 10 critics of Vladimir Putin who died violently or in suspicious ways (Washington Post)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...us-ways/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8507f77dfcb1
A Brief History of Attempted Russian Assassinations by Poison (Foreign Policy)
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/09/a-brief-history-of-attempted-russian-assassinations-by-poison/
International Criminal Court: Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Is A 'Crime,' Not A Civil War (Forbes)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulro...aine-is-a-crime-not-a-civil-war/#1cf1ce247ddb
Donald Trump’s Worst Deal: The President helped build a hotel in Azerbaijan that appears to be a corrupt operation engineered by oligarchs tied to Iran’s Revolutionary Guard (The New Yorker)
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal
Trump’s Business of Corruption (The New Yorker)
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/08/21/trumps-business-of-corruption
Trump lawyer 'paid by Ukraine' to arrange White House talks (BBC)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44215656
After becoming President, Trump has sold millions in real estate in secret deals (Newsweek)
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-real-estate-secret-buyers-777276
Just What Were Donald Trump's Ties to the Mob? (Politico)
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910
Russian lawyer from infamous Trump Tower meeting admits to being an informant for the Kremlin: Report (CNBC)
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/27/ema...ween-trump-tower-russian-and-kremlin-nbc.html
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Any of us who have had to deal with a sociopath like Donald Trump would readily understand and agree with these observations.
The scary part is that this sociopath heads the most powerful country in the world. Like all socipaths he has no regard for conventions that don't suit him - hence refusing to table tax returns, conducting international diplomacy via Twitter, lying through his teeth to the point that nothing he says can be taken as accurate without independent evidence.
Darc Night made a point about the Russian financial connections being the hold Putin has on Trump. These have been explored a number of times but when they are brought together in one package (with credible evidence) the dots are well joined. Check out this .
I would have like to just pinned a few paragraphs and given the link but that I can't find the story as presented here on their wedbsite ! I have therefore posted the whole article.
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Dear friends,
It’s now shockingly clear that Donald Trump is Putin’s poodle.
But we need the world to understand why, before it’s too late…
Trump's businesses went bankrupt so many times in the 1990s that many legitimate banks wouldn’t lend to him anymore. He turned to Russian oligarchs -- Putin’s ruling clique -- to bankroll his projects, and launder their dirty money for them. This was, and continues to be, a huge part of his business. He’s a Russian money launderer.
yadda yaddal
All about as true as "Sec. of State Hillary Clinton's approval of a deal to transfer control of 20% of U.S. uranium deposits to a Russian company was a quid pro quo exchange for donations to the Clinton Foundation. "
You should post proofs instead of fake news and conspiracy theories
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That all you got? Bas's post includes names, dates, convictions and exact transactions etc which have left an audit trail - all verifiable.
Hope it doesn't rain tomorrow. Trump fan boys will scream "fake news" just because they don't like the forecast
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That all you got? Bas's post includes names, dates, convictions and exact transactions etc which have left an audit trail - all verifiable.
Hope it doesn't rain tomorrow. Trump fan boys will scream "fake news" just because they don't like the forecast
Some internet guy expresses his conspiracy pathology by cobbling together other people's individuality crisis pieces and that somehow equates to fact. The need to be part of conspiracy theories is a pathology of people who have a need to express their desire to be seen as individualistic even though they are stuck fast in the of no consequence queue.
This what we get. It starts as a trickle, of giving people the opportunity to speak rubbish without being caned for being stupid. Then all the Mr and Mrs Stupids get onboard and like spontaneous combustion they all have a sheeple voice, a sheeple audience and a need to vandalise society and character assassinate to keep the adrenaline and the faux intellectuals engaged. It's like a disease propogating its own efficacy.
When these beige people who have no industry about them and who presumably work in govt or allied industry finally strangle the West with too much bureaucractic oversight , they will all crawl away to their natural beige habitats and grumble how we have lost that frontier, have a go spirit and entrepreneurial nous and resent the life sucking monster they created.
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Some internet guy expresses his conspiracy pathology by cobbling together other people's individuality crisis pieces and that somehow equates to fact. The need to be part of conspiracy theories is a pathology of people who have a need to express their desire to be seen as individualistic even though they are stuck fast in the of no consequence queue.
This what we get. It starts as a trickle, of giving people the opportunity to speak rubbish without being caned for being stupid. Then all the Mr and Mrs Stupids get onboard and like spontaneous combustion they all have a sheeple voice, a sheeple audience and a need to vandalise society and character assassinate to keep the adrenaline and the faux intellectuals engaged. It's like a disease propogating its own efficacy.
When these beige people who have no industry about them and who presumably work in govt or allied industry finally strangle the West with too much bureaucractic oversight , they will all crawl away to their natural beige habitats and grumble how we have lost that frontier, have a go spirit and entrepreneurial nous and resent the life sucking monster they created.
Lol. Try again pls. Names, dates and substantial evidence may help your futile cause
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Lol. Try again pls. Names, dates and substantial evidence may help your futile cause
I'm not sure why you think you are in control of this? Your emoticon belies the transparent insecurity you feel about the subject and attempts to have everyone group hug in acceptance of fantasy stories concocted by political nobody enemies of a man who was elected to the most powerful position on the planet. There's no accolades for celebrating tall poppy syndromes and sickness.
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Still not an evidence based rebuttal, just a personal attack.
Names, dates and other evidence will suffice! (no emoticon, just for you).
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