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Trump Derangement Syndrome

1) your opinion nothing else
2) business dealings are not illegal and actually promoted by previous admins
3) under investigation is no proof of guilt and Wiki is not a peer reviewed source of information

Correction: Wiki is a peer review source of info.
 
The US is not there to keep the world stable. It's not their job to.

I disagree. As the country with the biggest collection of nukes and the biggest military in the world it acts as a constraint on the misuse of power by upstart totalitarian states who care little about individual rights etc that we take for granted.

If that power balance is upset, then nasty things will happen sooner or later.
 

While it does act to constrain other country's misuse of force, it does not necessarily constrain its own misuse, or those of its friends and servants.

Takes for example the French missions in north/west Africa. Or Israel's genocide on the Palestinians. Or Saudi Arabia's on Yemen. Or the US diplomatic tools of sanctioning countries whose leaders they don't like.

So yes, as long as a country do as they're told... peace be with them. If they don't... Iran, Venezuela, Libya, Syria etc. etc.

So your point being that, well... if an upstart were to challenge the status quo, things will be a whole lot worst. Wars will start all over again.

Maybe, maybe not.

Competition might do the ... yea, alright, you're right on that one.

We're so screwed.
 
While it does act to constrain other country's misuse of force, it does not necessarily constrain its own misuse

A current non-military example is the US proposing to outlaw OPEC (the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries - basically the Arabs and a few others who meet periodically in Vienna) as an illegal cartel.

Now what on earth leads the US to think it has any right whatsoever to dictate to other countries how they do business?

If Saudi or the UAE or whoever wants to increase or reduce their production of oil then that's for them to decide not the US.

If the US thinks that's a good idea then they ought to be open to others doing the same. Eg they should have no problems if Australia informs the US that Australian gun laws will now apply throughout the US and likewise if somewhere like France decides that their labour laws now apply in the US. If it's good for the goose......

I seriously think that Trump is just going out of his way to upset anyone and everyone for the sake of upsetting them. Oddly that might just encourage peace since it puts pretty much everyone else in the same boat with a common problem.

Back to my seeing parallels with someone I've dealt with in real life, another common theme in both cases is the creation of chaos. In the case of Trump it seems that other world leaders have given up even pretending to know what's going on these days. Once the dust inevitably settles it will turn out that one or two knew all along what was going on and that the chaos was really just to divert attention and chew up the resources (time, money, lawyers, whatever) of those who might stand in the way.
 
This is from snopes. It should be clear that he was selling condos to the Russians at one stage. After the sanctions in 2014 (I think) the sanctions stopped the money coming in.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/russia-paid-donald-trump-millions-of-dollars/

Heres an article on Russian money sloping into the Clinton foundation and tony podesta


https://www.google.com.au/amp/www.c...-investigation-russia-20171120-story,amp.html


The Clinton foundation has a lot of rumors mixed with facts. But the Clintons are political beasts. They hide it well.
 
Toxic personalities are great for burning it all down though. Trump is the endgame to a long line of political shtbags.
 

Your experiences seem to reflect mine and others people's. Others would be well served to reflect on your words. Most people don't recognise a sociopath until it's to late and the damage is done.
 
Intelligent people don't use Wiki as proofs.

What do you deem to be an acceptable source of factual information? There have been links to a wide range of sources in this thread, and you have dismissed all of them, clearly because they don't paint Trump in a positive light.
 
What do you deem to be an acceptable source of factual information? There have been links to a wide range of sources in this thread, and you have dismissed all of them, clearly because they don't paint Trump in a positive light.

I'm not going to get into an argument about wiki. You should know that wiki is editable, even by yourself and relies on others correcting your fictions. It is not a source you can use in, say a Uni thesis because is not a reliable, peer reviewed encyclopedia. The best it can be is a prompt to find out the facts.

If you can't find original author facts after seeing it on a wiki article you would have to ask yourself why that is. If you do find that article you have to then objectively breakdown the content to eliminate the subjective content and then find at least two other collaborative works to make a reliable conclusion on the supposed facts.

That is why I can easily dismiss the nonsense of posting opinion piece links thinking members are gullible enough to actually believe them. I know I don't expect people to blindly swallow links I post and in fact when they are about anything pro white male I'm reminded of that.
 
Wiki is a general overview. Its not exactly fact checked. Even some of the "fact checked" sites are dubious. Even a lot of peer reviewed stuff is rubbish. Cigarette/oil companies, political biased hit pieces etc.
 

The road to freedom and greatness is a one-way street Smurf
 
It's funny how Trump fans yell about fake news and denounce a wide range of sources as being untrue, yet the only source they do believe in are words from the mouth of Donald Trump (proven serial liar) or posted on his Twitter feed.
 
Regardless of the accuracy or otherwise of this post, it could well describe any number of leaders and politicians od every political stripe.

Symptomatic of Trump Derangement Syndrome, is the believe that Trump is somehow unique in this regard, withour any virtues, and with inferences that the alternative was somwhow less toxic.

Notwithstanding Trump's many foibles, his persona has been carefully crafted by the media, a classic strawman.

If you want to bitch about fair dinkum toxicity, look no further than the current iteration of the Democrats, eg Maxine Waters, the gender agenda and race baiting politics of the Marxists that have taken over that party and infected the once truly virtuous left.
 
It's funny how Trump fans yell about fake news and denounce a wide range of sources as being untrue, yet the only source they do believe in are words from the mouth of Donald Trump (proven serial liar) or posted on his Twitter feed.
I'm not sure anyone here has quoted him as factual?
 
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