Trump 2.0

[Antirnator]

It's obvious that we have the extremes of the US political system battling it out right now.

However, I believe that the great Middle America will eventually sort it out by voting for a more moderate administration, be it Democrat or Republican at the appropriate time.

Until then, I hope that both sides cool it down and don't make any hysterical statements that inflame the situation.

Trump has always been a political moderate and is still a political moderate. There is not much difference in terms of policy between Trump, Clinton and Obama (the most left of the 3). Example 1, Trump fixed the Clinton crime bill with the First Step Act. Second example, Trump and Obama (the guy who put the kids in cages) are the deportation supremos. Middle America voted for Trump in 2024, job done. CNN can't do polls anymore because Trump has so much support.

It amazes me how everyone forgets Trump and all his Democrat friends hanging out for decades.

For years I kept hearing about how politicians should be more transparent; now you get the most transparent world leader in all of history and everyone spends their time complaining because he so transparent. He spends hours talking and explaining in his stupid way of speaking. He does his whole bragging straight shooter American thing and Aussies are whining like little babies.

Washington hates Trump because they can't control him. He is the antidote to the swamp, this is what middle America wants. Wait I get it now, the Aussie opinion is that the majority of Americans are idiots compared to the brilliance of voting for Albanese (twice).

Yes, I don't like Trump but the other option is President 'forever' Xi Jinping. I know which side I am on.

Scott Adams is right most people have their opinions assigned to them. Just blindly following the MSM narratives.

/rantoff

 

[SirRumpole]

Trump has always been a political moderate and is still a political moderate. There is not much difference in terms of policy between Trump, Clinton and Obama (the most left of the 3). Example 1, Trump fixed the Clinton crime bill with the First Step Act. Second example, Trump and Obama (the guy who put the kids in cages) are the deportation supremos. Middle America voted for Trump in 2024, job done. CNN can't do polls anymore because Trump has so much support.

It amazes me how everyone forgets Trump and all his Democrat friends hanging out for decades.

For years I kept hearing about how politicians should be more transparent; now you get the most transparent world leader in all of history and everyone spends their time complaining because he so transparent. He spends hours talking and explaining in his stupid way of speaking. He does his whole bragging straight shooter American thing and Aussies are whining like little babies.

Washington hates Trump because they can't control him. He is the antidote to the swamp, this is what middle America wants. Wait I get it now, the Aussie opinion is that the majority of Americans are idiots compared to the brilliance of voting for Albanese (twice).

Yes, I don't like Trump but the other option is President 'forever' Xi Jinping. I know which side I am on.

Scott Adams is right most people have their opinions assigned to them. Just blindly following the MSM narratives.

/rantoff

I think Trump only got in because Kamala was too woke for middle America.

The Dems should have learned from that and I think they will move to the Right.

 

[Antirnator]

The Dems should have learned from that and I think they will move to the Right.

Yes, they need to move back to the centre, far away from the far left fascists who constantly call everyone else fascists.

 

[sptrawler]

A disillusioned woking class isn't confined to the U.S, it is happening the Western World over, workers aren't stupid they don't need to be Einstein to realise that their money doesn't go as far, the house they are working and saving for, is moving further out of reach.
Meanwhile their rent is going up and their savings are going down.

Their jobs and employment opportunities are disappearing and immigration is increasing, meanwhile they feel their tax is paying for it.

It doesn't take a genius to realise the only ones who will be cheering that platform on, will be the rich, who get cheaper workers, more demand and tenants.

Trump tapped into that, if he can't deliver he will be thrown out, meanwhile those who don't want him to deliver are throwing all they can to stop him.

Time will tell.

 

[basilio]

Apparently Donald Trump was not aware of the assassination of Melissa Hortaman Democratic Speaker in the Minnesota House of Reps.

Melissa and her husband were killed less than 3 months ago. Trump was "not aware" of this double murder of Democratic politicians n June 16th 2025?

Two possibilities here of course

1) Trump is seriously, seriously cognitively impaired. He doesn't remember such an outrageous action that created huge turmoil only 3 months ago OR

2) Trump is seriously, criminally cognitively impaired because he lies through his teeth every time he opens his mouth and in this instance (the killing of Charle Kirk) has refused to recognise the number of Democrat politicians who have been attacked.

Trump at first says he is ‘not familiar’ with Minnesota Democrat’s assassination

President says he would have ordered half-staff flags for Melissa Hortman if Tim Walz had asked him to do so

www.theguardian.com

US politicians and spouses shot, two killed, by fake police officer

A manhunt is underway in Minnesota after Democrats Melissa Hortman, who was killed alongside her husband, and John Hoffman were targeted by a suspect posing as a police officer.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Antirnator]

Apparently Donald Trump was not aware of the assassination of Melissa Hortaman Democratic Speaker in the Minnesota House of Reps.

He was unaware because Tim Waltz told everyone to shut up and stop talking about it.

 

[basilio]

He was unaware because Tim Waltz told everyone to shut up and stop talking about it.

Are you serious ? Really ? I mean is that supposed to be a 1 cent piece of intelligent comment or just a total troll ?
Perhaps you are just trying to become head troller on this Forum ? Anything is possible on ASF .

 

[basilio]

But back to the undisputed King of Trolling, Lies and Crime.

Trump has decided to sue the New York Times for $15B for Defamation and Libel.
Nothing in particular. Everything in general.

Once upon a time could make this headline up after a long afternoon on the turps. But in the Trump year of 2025 this piece of mendacious, criminal BS is for real.

Donald Trump says he is bringing $15bn lawsuit against New York Times ​

US president says he is bringing defamation and libel action in Florida against the newspaper, accusing it of being a ‘virtual mouthpiece’ for Democrats

Staff and agencies
Tue 16 Sep 2025 00.29 EDT


Donald Trump says he has brought a $15bn lawsuit against the New York Times, alleging defamation and libel.

In a social media post late on Monday, the US president accused the newspaper of a “decades long method of lying about your Favorite President (ME!), my family, business, the America First Movement, MAGA, and our Nation as a whole”.

Donald Trump says he is bringing $15bn lawsuit against New York Times

US president says he is bringing defamation and libel action in Florida against the newspaper, accusing it of being a ‘virtual mouthpiece’ for Democrats

www.theguardian.com

 

[basilio]

But back to the undisputed King of Trolling, Lies and Crime.

Trump has decided to sue the New York Times for $15B for Defamation and Libel.
Nothing in particular. Everything in general.

Once upon a time could make this headline up after a long afternoon on the turps. But in the Trump year of 2025 this piece of mendacious, criminal BS is for real.

Donald Trump says he is bringing $15bn lawsuit against New York Times ​

US president says he is bringing defamation and libel action in Florida against the newspaper, accusing it of being a ‘virtual mouthpiece’ for Democrats

Staff and agencies
Tue 16 Sep 2025 00.29 EDT


Donald Trump says he has brought a $15bn lawsuit against the New York Times, alleging defamation and libel.

In a social media post late on Monday, the US president accused the newspaper of a “decades long method of lying about your Favorite President (ME!), my family, business, the America First Movement, MAGA, and our Nation as a whole”.

Donald Trump says he is bringing $15bn lawsuit against New York Times

US president says he is bringing defamation and libel action in Florida against the newspaper, accusing it of being a ‘virtual mouthpiece’ for Democrats

www.theguardian.com

 

[basilio]

But back to the undisputed King of Trolling, Lies and Crime.

Trump has decided to sue the New York Times for $15B for Defamation and Libel.
Nothing in particular. Everything in general.

Once upon a time could make this headline up after a long afternoon on the turps. But in the Trump year of 2025 this piece of mendacious, criminal BS is for real.

Donald Trump says he is bringing $15bn lawsuit against New York Times ​

US president says he is bringing defamation and libel action in Florida against the newspaper, accusing it of being a ‘virtual mouthpiece’ for Democrats

Staff and agencies
Tue 16 Sep 2025 00.29 EDT


Donald Trump says he has brought a $15bn lawsuit against the New York Times, alleging defamation and libel.

In a social media post late on Monday, the US president accused the newspaper of a “decades long method of lying about your Favorite President (ME!), my family, business, the America First Movement, MAGA, and our Nation as a whole”.

Donald Trump says he is bringing $15bn lawsuit against New York Times

US president says he is bringing defamation and libel action in Florida against the newspaper, accusing it of being a ‘virtual mouthpiece’ for Democrats

www.theguardian.com

 

[Antirnator]

Are you serious ? Really ? I mean is that supposed to be a 1 cent piece of intelligent comment or just a total troll ?
Perhaps you are just trying to become head troller on this Forum ? Anything is possible on ASF .

You're the idiot that keeps quoting the guardian that can't keep its facts straight. So I thought you I would write some fan fiction on your level.

Guardian July 18 2025
"In the hours after the killings, the president released a statement in which he said he had “been briefed on the terrible shooting that took place in Minnesota, which appears to be a targeted attack against state lawmakers”.

Trump’s statement also said that “such horrific violence will not be tolerated”. "

 

[IFocus]

Trump tapped into that, if he can't deliver he will be thrown out, meanwhile those who don't want him to deliver are throwing all they can to stop him.

Time will tell.

Trumps 1st order of business is to enrich himself and his family yes they all do it.
2nd is to supply his ego surrounding himself with sycophants in his own image.
3rd say anything that gets votes especially from the Christians (so called) especially those that believe in Armageddon (seriously).
None of Trumps policies have transferred wealth back to the middle/ lower economic classes none, zilch. Nada sFA.
The biggest transfer of wealth ever in the history of the United States continues unabated.

The Cult keeps cheering

 

[basilio]

You're the idiot that keeps quoting the guardian that can't keep its facts straight. So I thought you I would write some fan fiction on your level.

Guardian July 18 2025
"In the hours after the killings, the president released a statement in which he said he had “been briefed on the terrible shooting that took place in Minnesota, which appears to be a targeted attack against state lawmakers”.

Trump’s statement also said that “such horrific violence will not be tolerated”. "

So Trump did know about the horrific home assassination of the Democratic reps in Minnesota - and expressed serious anger at the political violence.

So back to now. 3 months later he says he "wasn't aware " of the assassination. Either he is so xucking impaired he legitimately can't recall the killing and has no place in the White House OR

He well remembers the killings but for his purposes he pretends they never happened and then starts a Jihad against anyone he deems to be a political threat . He still has no place as a President

 

[IFocus]

How are the Epstein files / list going?

Kirk was demanding their release?

Strange he got bumped off……Trump = Deep State

The Cult keeps cheering

 

[Value Collector]

Not true the shooter was registered non partisan. His family were Republican. His voter status is inactive.

no of that changes Charlie's opinions though, which as said were terrible. I already said he didn't deserve to be shot, regardless of who the shooter is.

 

[Value Collector]

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Do you support abortion because your statements above seem to indicate that.

I support Abortion in cases where it is medically necessary, or where the pregnancy is the result of sexual assault and where the pregnancy is early enough I think a woman has the right to choose if she wants to take the risk carrying on the pregnancy or not.

You didn't show me quotes in context and rather from TikTok tards.

I show you short video to give you the gist, you can go look up the full version if you like, I don't think you can really take his opinion that a 10 yearly should be forced to give birth out of context.

 

[Value Collector]

To be fair, its on both sides with the extremists. The extremists on the left and the right are shooting each other up.
I blame social media and tribalism.

Maybe we should stop letting them buy guns then, oh wait, not Charlie said everyone should have guns.

 

[Antirnator]

So Trump did know about the horrific home assassination of the Democratic reps in Minnesota - and expressed serious anger at the political violence.

It wasn't political violence. It was a murder committed because of a personal grievance. See post 1284 for Vance Boelter's appointment to the government workforce group by Tim Waltz. The guy spiralled into madness and killed people he knew.

So back to now. 3 months later he says he "wasn't aware " of the assassination. Either he is so xucking impaired he legitimately can't recall the killing and has no place in the White House OR

Basing your whole story on the two words 'not familiar' means everything you say is a fiction. I already proved that Trump was aware with the quote from your precious Guardian. You deliberately ignored this because your worldview is gossip and deception.

He well remembers the killings but for his purposes he pretends they never happened and then starts a Jihad against anyone he deems to be a political threat . He still has no place as a President

Mindreading is not a real thing. The one thing Trump is good at is telling everyone what he thinks.

I know I cannot convince you of anything. Maybe if I get an article printed in the Guardian or for the ABC and borrow their authority it will be real for you.

 

[moXJO]

I show you short video to give you the gist, you can go look up the full version if you like, I don't think you can really take his opinion that a 10 yearly should be forced to give birth out of context.

Sum of his beliefs is that its a human from conception. You are either for the killing of babies or not.
So while his opinion may offend you, yours also offends many. I had a mate who had a similar opinion on rape and carrying and looking after the child as it wasn't the child's fault. I couldn't get my head around it, but came to accept difference in opinion. He wasn't religious either. Better man than I.

You don't actually have the "gist" as you fed people a false narrative of what he believed through TikTok airheads that have no concept of context. I doubt you could find anything but edited short grabs.

Thats what I have a problem with-misinformation.

 

[Antirnator]

How are the Epstein files / list going?

The same way every other file is dealt with after 20+ years of curation.

Kirk was demanding their release?

Yes

Strange he got bumped off……Trump = Deep State

Deliberate ignorance is fun.

The Cult keeps cheering

Yes, the cult is cheering the death of a good Christian man who would break bread with anyone, for real.