Trump 2.0

[mullokintyre]

The republicans in general are doing exactly the same thing to the left as they railed against the left doing to them.
Cancel culture was invented by the left, and now its coming back to haunt them.
Just like the GOPS impeachment of Clinton came back to haunt them.
People on both sides take to much umbrage at what others write.
A little more eye rolling and less cancel would be good for everyone.

Mick

 

[moXJO]

The republicans in general are doing exactly the same thing to the left as they railed against the left doing to them.
Cancel culture was invented by the left, and now its coming back to haunt them.
Just like the GOPS impeachment of Clinton came back to haunt them.
People on both sides take to much umbrage at what others write.
A little more eye rolling and less cancel would be good for everyone.

Mick

No its been renamed to "accountability culture" total different thing

 

[moXJO]

I think the divide gets larger from here. Trumps the type of guy to fuel it.
But its needed to some degree in the US as entire institutions are captured by one side. There needs to be diversity in thought.

 

[Value Collector]

1. That's your opinion, which you have every right to.

Yes it is, but I think Kirk was express more than just opinion, I think it was also lies and some hate speech, not all opinions should be respected.

I personally don't have an opinion on what U.S citizens choose to believe and the majority voted Trump.

Actually they didn’t, only 49% of votes were for Trump, and only 22% of the USA population voted for him.

Not that that matters, I am just pointing out that the “Majority of Americans” didn’t vote for him.

Same as I don't think the U.S population should be making judgements on our choice of leader, or our political decisions, it's our business.

As far as I have heard Charlie Kirk hasn't tried to change Australia's belief in anything and if he has I haven't read it.

Dude, this is about Charlie Kirk, and my opinion which you said I have the right to… my opinion is that based on what I have seen he was a terrible person,.. you admitted you don’t know much about him, so what you think doesn’t matter.

You are here trying to defend his Honour because I said he wasn’t a good person, but you need to go watch a bunch of his stuff before your opinion matters to me, other wise you are just spouting “don’t talk ill of the dead” nonsense.

 

[Value Collector]

The republicans in general are doing exactly the same thing to the left as they railed against the left doing to them.
Cancel culture was invented by the left, and now its coming back to haunt them.
Just like the GOPS impeachment of Clinton came back to haunt them.
People on both sides take to much umbrage at what others write.
A little more eye rolling and less cancel would be good for everyone.

Mick

I think the right has also wanted “freedom” which when you examine what they actually mean they want “privilege”.

I lean left socially, but am much closer to the middle on most issues than either the left wing Australians or the right wing USA. Which puts me closer to what the USA democrats stand for.

I spend a lot of time in the USA The democrats are not the problem in the USA. They aren’t perfect, but the country would be better if they had more power to enacted the changes to tanned to be made.

 

[sptrawler]

Yes it is, but I think Kirk was express more than just opinion, I think it was also lies and some hate speech, not all opinions should be respected.


Actually they didn’t, only 49% of votes were for Trump, and only 22% of the USA population voted for him.

Not that that matters, I am just pointing out that the “Majority of Americans” didn’t vote for him.



Dude, this is about Charlie Kirk, and my opinion which you said I have the right to… my opinion is that based on what I have seen he was a terrible person,.. you admitted you don’t know much about him, so what you think doesn’t matter.

You are here trying to defend his Honour because I said he wasn’t a good person, but you need to go watch a bunch of his stuff before your opinion matters to me, other wise you are just spouting “don’t talk ill of the dead” nonsense.

Why would you think I was defending his honour? When I said I had never listened to him.

I was defending a person right to voice an opinion without risk of being shot or hurt, as I said when explaining your right to the same courtesy.

As I said before I hope your ponificating manner, never gets you in trouble, but I would assume it already has in the past.

Anyway probably time to move on, I think we have done this to death, so to speak.

 

[SirRumpole]

I spend a lot of time in the USA The democrats are not the problem in the USA. They aren’t perfect, but the country would be better if they had more power to enacted the changes to tanned to be made.

What does "tanned" mean?

 

[moXJO]

Why would you think I was defending his honour? When I said I had never listened to him.

I was defending a person right to voice an opinion without risk of being shot or hurt, as I said when explaining your right to the same courtesy.

As I said before I hope your ponificating manner, never gets you in trouble, but I would assume it already has in the past.

Anyway probably time to move on, I think we bave done this to death, so to speak.

Just ask for unedited proof and watch the scramble.

 

[JohnDe]

 

[wayneL]

The Right's version of cancel culture.

I hate both of them. (Sorry, hate is a bad word, replace with "extremely dislike").

As you know I'm strongly in favor of free speech and a free exchange of ideas, the exception being death threats or incitement of violence.

There is a line between cancel culture for fair and legitimate opinions, often expressed sometime in the distant past, and fair consequences for some repulsive opinion expressed in the current which may affect The fortunes or reputation of the employer.

Sacking somebody for speech not in keeping with a company's values is not cancel culture. A few examples:

*Let's say I'm working on some kids beloved pony and I call it a f****** mongrel in front of the kid. Yes I have free speech and I am able to do that, but what I could not expect would be to retain that person's custom, I would be summarily dismissed on the spot.

*If a person is in healthcare or in education or whatever else, it doesn't matter, and they get on Tiktok spouting off repulsive opinions about a family man being assassinated for his opinion. That persons employment is not in keeping with the values of their employer and rightly deserve to be sacked.

I could go on with several examples. IMO incitement to violence probably should be prosecuted and that is what is happening currently.

In Kimmel's case, he demonstrably lied on air and reportedly intended to double down on the hateful rhetoric.

Therefore I do not believe that Kimmel's sacking has anything to do with cancel culture, merely a consequence of contravening the values and reputation of his employer.

Additionally his ratings have been going in the tank recently and they may have been looking for a reason to pull the plug anyway.

 

[Value Collector]

What does "tanned" mean?

Hahaha, typo, I meant to say “that need to be made” what ever I typed the autocorrect must have thought I meant tanned.

 

[Value Collector]

1. Why would you think I was defending his honour? When I said I had never listened to him.

2. I was defending a person right to voice an opinion without risk of being shot or hurt, as I said when explaining your right to the same courtesy.

3. As I said before I hope your ponificating manner, never gets you in trouble, but I would assume it already has in the past.

4. Anyway probably time to move on, I think we have done this to death, so to speak.

1. Because you and others seem very upset that I am expressing that I didn’t think he was a great guy, and that his opinions were shitty.

2. Cool, but have I ever said he doesn’t have the right to express his opinions?

3. I think the the fact you think I am “pontificating” has more to do with the way you are reading my posts.

4. I think so,