Same sex marriage - Yes or No?

MrBurns · 15 September 2017

I have a glass of wine with my next door neighbour once a week, her daughter is gay.
I ended up voting YES simply because if I have 3 glasses instead of 2 I'll probably confess.
I don't feel comfortable with that decision so I'm confessing here.
Can't win either way..........

Value Collector · 15 September 2017

watchdog11 said:
Would you pass a law forcing Muslims to eat pork against their religion?

The question is would you ban pork just because muslims don't like it?

Thats the big difference, no one is forcing you to have a gay marriage (or eat pork)

You want to keep a law that prevents gays getting married (e.g. ban pork)

You aren't happy to live by your own silly rules, you want to force them on others.

dutchie · 15 September 2017

MrBurns said:
I have a glass of wine with my next door neighbour once a week, her daughter is gay.
I ended up voting YES simply because if I have 3 glasses instead of 2 I'll probably confess.
I don't feel comfortable with that decision so I'm confessing here.
Can't win either way..........

The evil of drink

MrBurns · 15 September 2017

dutchie said:
The evil of drink

I would have found it difficult when the subject came up, that's no excuse I could have used the argument that I was concerned about men adopting children but I acted impulsively.
If YES gets up by one vote I'll feel even worse.

dutchie · 15 September 2017

I bet that not one person has been swayed by the rhetoric of these 50 odd pages, either way.

overhang · 15 September 2017

MrBurns said:
I would have found it difficult when the subject came up, that's no excuse I could have used the argument that I was concerned about men adopting children but I acted impulsively.
If YES gets up by one vote I'll feel even worse.

If you feel that strongly about it then you could always call up and say you made a mistake on your vote and they will send you a new one out, I think they will then void your original vote in this situation. You've put a new meaning to beer goggles though.

MrBurns · 15 September 2017

overhang said:
If you feel that strongly about it then you could always call up and say you made a mistake on your vote and they will send you a new one out, I think they will then void your original vote in this situation. You've put a new meaning to beer goggles though.

Just tried no can do.

PZ. · 15 September 2017

If you voted NO on ASF it balances out

SirRumpole · 15 September 2017

MrBurns said:
I have a glass of wine with my next door neighbour once a week, her daughter is gay.
I ended up voting YES simply because if I have 3 glasses instead of 2 I'll probably confess.
I don't feel comfortable with that decision so I'm confessing here.
Can't win either way..........

You are granted absolution my son.

I've just done mine and the answer is still No, but I'm not a good picker in these sort of things.

overhang · 15 September 2017

MrBurns said:
Just tried no can do.

What did they say? It said something on the form about contacting them in the case of a mistake and they will issue a new one.

MrBurns · 15 September 2017

PZ99 said:
If you voted NO on ASF it balances out

Ha, in the interests of honesty I will tell my neighbour how and why I voted YES and why I should have voted the other way.....if the subject comes up.
She will probably then tell me her daughter voted NO

MrBurns · 15 September 2017

overhang said:
What did they say? It said something on the form about contacting them in the case of a mistake and they will issue a new one.

It was a very short conversation,
"Have you posted it "
"Yes"
"Then no you can't change it"

MrBurns · 15 September 2017

SirRumpole said:
You are granted absolution my son.

I've just done mine and the answer is still No, but I'm not a good picker in these sort of things.

I feel much better thank you Rumpy.

basilio · 15 September 2017

overhang said:
Freedom of speech, not in the eyes of the church

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-po...gay-marriage-on-facebook-20170913-gygcyp.html

Well ceratainly not in the eyes of this particular Minister.
IMO a really poor decision.

overhang · 15 September 2017

MrBurns said:
It was a very short conversation,
"Have you posted it "
"Yes"
"Then no you can't change it"

Oh, bugger. Maybe they're trying to keep the postage costs down

Could be worse, you could have voted for Gillard in 2010 because you didn't catch the 1 interview on election eve night where she said a win would giver her a mandate for a carbon tax after previously claiming there would be no carbon tax under her government.

watchdog11 · 15 September 2017

MrBurns said:
I would have found it difficult when the subject came up, that's no excuse I could have used the argument that I was concerned about men adopting children but I acted impulsively.
If YES gets up by one vote I'll feel even worse.

It's ok to vote NO. It does not mean that you dislike gays, or are "against" them. Don't confuse the issue here.

PZ. · 15 September 2017

Put it this way @MrBurns - it's the naive people who are easily swayed by the inconsequential ramblings of extremist propagandists from either side coupled with those who do multiple voting that will distort the outcome. Not someone having a few

Having said that - I'm happy to vote NO on your behalf LOL

Tisme · 15 September 2017

basilio said:
...............

In Australia, anti-discrimination law prohibits discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation as well as on grounds of marital and relationship status. It also prohibits discrimination in the provision of goods, services and facilities and so would prohibit businesses from engaging in discrimination against same-sex couples. This is as it should be – and this is what opponents of marriage equality are trying to reverse.

Bede Harris is senior lecturer in law at Charles Sturt University

In his opinion it is how it should be, but in reality people are being denied their God given right to dislike someone or something and getting pinged by authorities for doing so. This bloke is a typical pointy head who probably lives a beige life, would carry a Gladstone bag to work it he could and never ever plied his hand at the rigours of owning a business and trying to make a quid from it.

I would London to a brick that there would be customers in that cake shop who are so appalled at witnessing two gay men demanding a cake be made for them, that they would take there own business elsewhere...who pays for the loss of income when rafts of people start side stepping the business, a business that caters to gay people who use victimisation as a tool to get what they want and they want it now!?

And of course the courts are going to saddle up to the gays, the courts are full of zionists who advocate for gays as part of their profile. It's one of the reasons they got into strife in Europe in the early part of the 20th century.

SirRumpole · 15 September 2017

All I hope is that if YES wins, they then STFU and stop attacking majority society, leave Mothers Day and Fathers Day alone, keep their queer gender theory out of schools, stop demonising anyone who disagrees with them and don't try and pretend that gays raising children is normal or desirable.

Do we think they will do that ? I don't believe it for a minute.

MrBurns · 15 September 2017

SirRumpole said:
All I hope is that if YES wins, they then STFU and stop attacking majority society, leave Mothers Day and Fathers Day alone, keep their queer gender theory out of schools, stop demonising anyone who disagrees with them and don't try and pretend that gays raising children is normal or desirable.

Do we think they will do that ? I don't believe it for a minute.

I think this may lead to the resurgence of "poofter bashing"......no I guess not.

I have noticed a marked increase in the visible numbers of gay men in society lately, almost every coffee shop has a couple working there whereas in the past it was hidden they have all "come out" and the numbers are surprising.

Same sex marriage - Yes or No?