wayneL
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Epsilon said:No comparison whatsoever my friend between the WEST and Islam. Its like comparing Light with darkness. Progress with barbaric, cruel, backwardness. Freedom with Tyranny.
wayneL said:Well... the West has had this nasty habit of subjugating or obliterating those who get in the way of their aims. The difference is that as we are currently "el supremos", we get to write the history books, and either sanitize or omit any unpleasant or inconvenient facts or events.
I could cite hundreds of instances.
This article discusses some interesting points: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=WIL20061012&articleId=3464
It is all a matter of viewpoint and I suspect the next decade will become even more interesting.
rub92me said:All: none of this has anything to do with Corruption in Australia. Please go to a park. Find a soapbox. Stand on soapbox and orate and take turns.
Epsilon said:PS. Do you ban people-users here also? Even for minor "misdemeanours" as is the case with a "certain" forum?
new girl said:A joy to read, thank you 2020.
No wonder you’re broke, you don’t shut up. I'd love to read all your posts but I cant keep up with you.
Epsilon seems to know a lot about the Middle East and its history. Most of what he says is true but he seems to blame the people rather than the ideology behind their actions. Hating and alienating people is not the answer though.
Do you know that these Jihadists are promised 70 virgins a night in heaven?
Nicks said:How do I become one?
Lol ty new girl. delightfully middle ground.new girl said:1...No wonder you’re broke, you don’t shut up..
2. Epsilon seems to know a lot about the Middle East and its history.
3. Do you know that these Jihadists are promised 70 virgins a night in heaven?
woops lol thankxnew girl said:I think you missed Foreign Correspondent!
2020hindsight said:woops lol thankx
Epsilon said:Two things are worth mentioning , adding here.
A). The operative word is : the West has "HAD"........
Indeed, the WEST as it's called today, for in the past there was NEVER (Before the 20th century) a United Front (unlike Islam which was the same Fascistic ideology throught its bloodied history), was in the past exploiting countries under its control for the enrichment and betterment of the citizens in the "mother" country (England, Spain, Holland, Portugal, Germany etc). That WAS the case before. Not now.
In fact under the leadership of the present Superpower (USA) and today's cosmopolitical "Globalisation" many Nations have developed unprecedented Wealth, Freedoms, Democratic systems, and Technological Progress with the ultimate result the much improved standard of living of their Peoples.
In Islamic countries on the other hand, no such progress, development, new acquired Freedoms, and technological advancement can be evidenced.
B). Islam by nature is a religion which justifies in raison détre in being anti-West, anti-Jewish, anti-Christian, anti-infidel. They (muslims) only live to enhance islam's influence throughout the Planet. In other words, instead of spreading , values much desired by the nature of most humans (freedom, good life style, good future for children-next generation, progress, democracy, etc), they want to spread their cruel, barbaric religious system\life style, which goes against the nature of mankind. Against the nature of humans. Against you and me (well, definitely against my values and nature...)....
Can you see the difference?
I can.......Hence my anti-Islamo-fascistic stance. In fact a very strong, but peacefully democratic one.....
Cheers)
1. Well Epsilon - no surprises for me, except that Im now more convinced than ever that there are moderate moslems out there with fine ethical values - just fine (whatever their past). Helping other fine moslems to lock up the extremists who are obvious nutcases. (concluding remarks as I recall something about "maybe the west could learn something") ?2020hindsight said:I'll watch the program on Indonesia. .. btw also, maybe you will watch that program on Andrew Denton interviewing Major Mori re David Hicks (if it ever comes back)? - (which, lol is where we got off the thread in the first place).
Bloveld said:See, this is what happens when they let patients at mental institutions have access to the internet.
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