Australian Federal Election 2025

[farmerge]

The other thing is that the two sides make the hard decisions toxic and impossible to implement.

Take negative gearing. I was opposed to any changes to this for many years, but as the housing crisis has gone from bad to worse, I've come around to the view that negative gearing needs to be changed.

As we can see from the last few days, each side has made it impossible for the other to propose any changes. Bi-partisan support for something that is difficult but might benefit the country just doesn't happen these days.

@Ferret Bi-partisan support probably would come across as a sign of weakness, from the knees up

 

[qldfrog]

For anyone who would like solutions more than arguments , a vision for Australia and concrete way to achieve that, with economics, please look at Senator Rennick.
I went to a meeting he was invited to last week and meeting in person confirmed my feeling.
It is a pump post, for a politician so i hope i am within the ASF good usage limits @Joe Blow
More on https://peoplefirstparty.au/
The other parties have:
Either lost their soul LNP, or purposely destroying the country ALP/Green.
And for the minors,when not the teals paid by the ALP ,many have justified grievance but wrongly targeted and rough uneconomic policies.
You do not want to destroy the system, you want to make it work: fair taxation, fair welfare, and economics first because economy is the source of it all
My soapbox stay over.

 

[farmerge]

For anyone who would like solutions more than arguments , a vision for Australia and concrete way to achieve that, with economics, please look at Senator Rennick.
I went to a meeting he was invited to last week and meeting in person confirmed my feeling.
It is a pump post, for a politician so i hope i am within the ASF good usage limits @Joe Blow
More on https://peoplefirstparty.au/
The other parties have:
Either lost their soul LNP, or purposely destroying the country ALP/Green.
And for the minors,when not the teals paid by the ALP ,many have justified grievance but wrongly targeted and rough uneconomic policies.
You do not want to destroy the system, you want to make it work: fair taxation, fair welfare, and economics first because economy is the source of it all
My soapbox stay over.

@qldfrog There is always that small percentage of politicians who are worthy to be called "good politicians", not too many mind you.

 

[sptrawler]

Greens try to head off Snowy Hydro gas plant with fossil fuel ban

Australian Greens move to block Morrison’s quest for a government funded gas plant in Kurri Kurri, proposing a ban on Snowy Hydro fossil fuel investments.

reneweconomy.com.au

The Government at the time didn't need the Greens to go ahead with Kurri Kurri, as far as I remember, Labor agreed that it needed to be built but put the hydrogen caveats on it to comply with their renewables agenda which made sense.

All I'm saying is that even though best intentions are meant, doesn't mean they can always be met and I think that is going to become even more relevant in the next term of Govt.

Both sides blaming each other causes half of the problems we have IMO, if politicians could own some of their mistakes, they may well learn something from them. But owning their mistakes isn't what politicians do these days and may also contribute to the style of candidates we get these days IMO.

 

[SirRumpole]

All I'm saying is that even though best intentions are meant, doesn't mean they can always be met and I think that is going to become even more relevant in the next term of Govt.

Well, I think it's reasonable to require that the turbines CAN run on gas/hydrogen mix, even if the hydrogen is not yet available.

It's sensible future planning imo.

 

[sptrawler]

Well, I think it's reasonable to require that the turbines CAN run on gas/hydrogen mix, even if the hydrogen is not yet available.

It's sensible future planning imo.

Absolutely, if the technology is there (H2 ready turbines), which it is, it should be incorporated.

But reality has to be accepted as well, didn't one of the Snowy managers pull the pin back in the early days, because he and Chris had a falling out when the manager said that the hydrogen wasn't viable in commercial quantities at that point in time?

Politics just has a feel of my way or the highway, these days and the opposition are no better IMO.

 

[Sean K]

I was wondering where the $600b costing come from.

The ALP is facing calls to cut ties with the Smart Energy Council following revelations the charity’s executives earn double that of managers in other climate-change organisations and in the wake of concerns raised over its links to Chinese companies accused of using slave labour.

Financial statements from the SEC – which has played a central role in the campaign following the release of its $600bn costing of the Coalition’s nuclear policy – reveal the charity paid more than $1.3m to management staff last year, despite there being only three such personnel.

By comparison, the Australian Conservation Foundation pays $1.2m to seven managers, while climate change charity Race for 2030 pays $1.2m to nine employees.

The figures, which show the three SEC managers earn an average of more than $400,000 a year, put the executives salaries at about that of a cabinet minister.

The SEC, led by chief executive John Grimes, holds charity status despite having donated to the Labor Party in the past and run partisan campaigns calling on voters to “chuck out” Scott Morrison with stickers plastered across households’ bins before the Australian Electoral Commission demanded the organisation stop selling the materials.

 

[farmerge]

I was taking to a former Federal Senator whom I do a fair bit of work for each year, on Saturday morning.
Though he has been out of the politician scene for some time, he still has a keen interest in his likes and dislikes of the monkeys we elect at each election day.
He said to me how much do you think the first preference is going to get for your No 1 vote.
I didn't really have a clue.......... $2.40 he responded.
His view is give that first presence to a minnow party and then go to the trouble and number every square from 2 to whatever.
The end result if one of majors doesn't get the percentage of 1st votes then they start to look at how the minnows fared.
This he said has not changed since he first entered into politics over 30 years ago.
Food for thought.

 

[Sean K]

It's going to be a Labor-Greens axis for the next three years.

Dreyfus has sold his soul.

Anthony Albanese is directing supporters in his seat of Grayndler to give their second votes to a Greens candidate who claims Israel is guilty of genocide and demands the Prime Minister blacklist the Jewish state and expel its ambassador.

As almost all of Labor’s frontbench get into preference deals with the anti-Israel party, Mr Albanese has put Greens candidate Hannah Thomas as his number two recommendation to voters without identifying which party she represents on his how-to-vote card.

The preference swap comes despite Mr Albanese’s own claims that the Greens are spreading misinformation on the Israel-Hamas war and that he will not be negotiating with them in a hung parliament.

The nation’s peak Jewish body on Tuesday criticised Mr Albanese’s preference stance, saying he was “uplifting and rewarding” the political extremists in the Greens with his voting recommendation.

And after five days of silence on his vote-swapping deal with the Greens in his safe outer-Melbourne seat of Isaacs, Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus on Tuesday repeatedly told The Australian that the how-to-vote cards he was giving out to voters at pre-poll stations at the time were “a matter for the party”.

 

[Knobby22]

Have to laugh .

The Liberals can't take a trick.
Crashed their Truck with Liberal postings into a portico at a polling booth, damaging the community centre in Maidstone and shutting the polling station. It was delivering how to vote forms.

They tried to remove the poster but couldn't reach to the top.

 

[farmerge]

Have to laugh .

The Liberals can't take a trick.
Crashed their Truck with Liberal postings into a portico at a polling booth, damaging the community centre in Maidstone and shutting the polling station. It was delivering how to vote forms.

They tried to remove the poster but couldn't reach to the top.

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We did out pre poll voting this morning.
Got asked why we wanted to cast an early vote.
Going into hospital again on Monday (true) might not come back standing up I sprouted (Hardly not true).
Never been asked for a reason in all the years that we have voted early.
Got the tick to proceed to the next section and voted.

 

[Knobby22]

We did out pre poll voting this morning.
Got asked why we wanted to cast an early vote.
Going into hospital again on Monday (true) might not come back standing up I sprouted (Hardly not true).
Never been asked for a reason in all the years that we have voted early.
Got the tick to proceed to the next section and voted.

I have only voted once early and was asked, but that was 30 years ago. These days no one cares. Half tje people I know vote early.

Hope the hospital visit doesn't involve more surgery,

 

[farmerge]

I have only voted once early and was asked, but that was 30 years ago. These days no one cares. Half tje people I know vote early.

Hope the hospital visit doesn't involve more surgery,

Fortunately or un fortunately the heart is not playing the right game at present. It has taken its bat and ball and playing on its own.
This day visit involves being zapped to get the rhythm right.
In at sparrows, 6am, and hopefully, She Who is never Wrong, picks me up and carts me home later in the afternoon.
This should be the last trip to Subi I hope.

 

[sptrawler]

Fortunately or un fortunately the heart is not playing the right game at present. It has taken its bat and ball and playing on its own.
This day visit involves being zapped to get the rhythm right.
In at sparrows, 6am, and hopefully, She Who is never Wrong, picks me up and carts me home later in the afternoon.
This should be the last trip to Subi I hope.

Just take it easy farmer, it is more important you get well.

 

[IFocus]

Fortunately or un fortunately the heart is not playing the right game at present. It has taken its bat and ball and playing on its own.
This day visit involves being zapped to get the rhythm right.
In at sparrows, 6am, and hopefully, She Who is never Wrong, picks me up and carts me home later in the afternoon.
This should be the last trip to Subi I hope.

Hope all goes well Subi is a pretty good hospital.

 

[farmerge]

Hope all goes well Subi is a pretty good hospital.

No complaints from me with the previous stays being 2 days and then 12 days.
Monday' should just a one dayer.
Menu is first class with multiple choices and the food delivered hot if it was supposed to be.

 

[farmerge]

Just take it easy farmer, it is more important you get well.

@sptrawler just taking one day at a time at present.
Only doing what is an absolute necessity at the moment.
About 10 days to go then I can start doing a couple of hours in the morning and similar in the afternoon, as long as I don't push too hard for the first week.

 

[Dona Ferentes]

1.28 now.
I don't know if you can trust the polling. Been wrong before!

There's only one poll that counts

 

[IFocus]

Has to be the most boring election in living memory wonder if that's a good thing politics shouldn't be entertainment like the reality / unreality absurd show in the US.

 

[farmerge]

Has to be the most boring election in living memory wonder if that's a good thing politics shouldn't be entertainment like the reality / unreality absurd show in the US.

@IFocus If it wasn't so serious over there it would be a laugh a minute.