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Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

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That's really thoughtful Gringott. Can you send me over a bit of what your having? It would be nice.

That's all folks. No point worrying about what is going to happen now. The fuse is lit.

Double talk - I never know what you mean. Bit like Hillary.
 
The Deplorables stick it up Hillary.

Yep, the silent majority, telling establishment they are sick of being shafted.

Clinton was just offering more of the same and people aren't wearing it anymore, as the Brexit proved.

Also to a lesser extent, but more pertinent here, Pauline's resurgence.IMO

People are getting sick of the slippery slope, that the working middle class seem to be stuck on, in all Western Countries.
 
Donald Trump is on his victory speech now...Go to 601 Foxtel.

The Socialists in the US have been defeated.
 
That went well :D A big win for Jerry Spinger fans that one :rolleyes:


Now for the Nostradamus memes a plenty :cool:
 
I wonder when he will get his head carved on Mount Rushmore, well money isn't a problem, so hey why not.:D
 
I wonder when he will get his head carved on Mount Rushmore, well money isn't a problem, so hey why not.:D

Jelly Malcolm is running off at his sycophantic mouth about how great mutual friends we are with USA. I think it was a veiled warning to us to start banking our money under the mattress.
 
That went well :D A big win for Jerry Spinger fans that one :rolleyes:


Now for the Nostradamus memes a plenty :cool:

A short sharp pain, is sometimes more acceptable than a death by a thousands cuts, the Labor and Coalition Parties should take notice.
A lot of working people are sick of being the mule for the whole fiscal system, welfare is looked after, politicians and rich people are looked after.
Unfortunately they aren't the majority of workers.:xyxthumbs
 
A short sharp pain, is sometimes more acceptable than a death by a thousands cuts, the Labor and Coalition Parties should take notice.
A lot of working people are sick of being the mule for the whole fiscal system, welfare is looked after, politicians and rich people are looked after.
Unfortunately they aren't the majority of workers.:xyxthumbs

A BIG watershed !!
 
A BIG watershed !!

Absolutely incredibly incompetent Democrats to let Trump win. It should never have happened had the Democrats looked after their constituency, ie the working class. Too much sucking up to Wall Street, and the big corporations.

Imagine if Shorten had said banking deregulation was good, he would have been murdered at the last election.

Sanders may well have done better than Clinton.
 
A BIG watershed !!

Exactly what is needed, just taking and taxing from the working class, while promoting a lethargy in society and allowing ridiculous CEO salaries has to end in tears.:D

A bit of a modern day, French Bastille day event. IMO

Frustration shows itself in many ways.
 
Absolutely incredibly incompetent Democrats to let Trump win. It should never have happened had the Democrats looked after their constituency, ie the working class. Too much sucking up to Wall Street, and the big corporations.

Imagine if Shorten had said banking deregulation was good, he would have been murdered at the last election.

Sanders may well have done better than Clinton.

I'll be happy not to hear her rhotic shrill for a while.
 
Exactly what is needed, just taking and taxing from the working class, while promoting a lethargy in society and allowing ridiculous CEO salaries has to end in tears.:D

A bit of a modern day, French Bastille day event. IMO

Frustration shows itself in many ways.

Fox in the henhouse .... where's my popcorn :D
 
Sometimes against-all-odds victories can inspire the gentle personality traits to emerge (compassion, humility, empathy). Trump has them hidden away somewhere, so you never know - he might find a new maturity in this role. I hope he has a good group of people to support and guide him, and reel him in when necessary.

Just heard the speech. Thankfully it has a moderate, inclusive, non-combative tone. A big sigh of relief.
 
Exactly what is needed, just taking and taxing from the working class, while promoting a lethargy in society and allowing ridiculous CEO salaries has to end in tears.:D

A bit of a modern day, French Bastille day event. IMO

Frustration shows itself in many ways.

my opinion too wsptrawler, and I believe welcome if it kick the anthill and let democracy works again, in the US and elsewhere
 
Imagine if Shorten had said banking deregulation was good, he would have been murdered at the last election.

No Shorten wanted to spend millions on a Royal Commission into Banks, to achieve what?
The 4 major banks underpin our economy, they need to make heaps of money, to prop up our useless economy.
I wish Shorten had got in and hammered the Banks, then Australians would have found out what real pain is.:xyxthumbs
Too many people, have had it too good, for too long. IMO
A crisis is needed, to give people and politicians a reality check, too many getting everything for nothing can't be sustained.
 
Meanwhile, back at the ranch in terms of the effect of Trump on Australia.

TPP: Trade pact dead, buried, cremated amid Donald Trump presidency
Analysis
By rural reporter Anna Vidot

Updated 14 minutes ago
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Photo: The Federal Government promised the TPP would deliver valuable new markets for Australian beef. (ABC Rural)
Related Story: Howard 'distressed' Trump, Clinton ignoring TPP
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It was an ambitious and controversial trade pact that would have covered nearly 40 per cent of the global economy and solidified US leadership in the Asia-Pacific.

But Donald Trump's victory in the United States' presidential election has likely killed off the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), which the Turnbull Government promised would deliver valuable new markets for Australian beef, wheat and dairy.

Pro-traders in the US and within the Obama administration had held out hope that regardless of who won the US election, the TPP could be ratified by a 'lame duck' session of Congress ”” held after the election, but before the new president is sworn in.

The chance of that happening was always slim, after a presidential campaign that inflamed and fed on anti-trade sentiment.

But the victory of that movement's most vehement advocate in the US presidential election, pushes that chance beyond the plausible.

Opposition to the controversial Pacific trade pact was a centrepiece of Mr Trump's campaign from the start, and it will surely be irretrievably sunk the moment he takes the oath of office on January 20.
Fact file: The Trans-Pacific Partnership
It's been referred to as 'the dodgiest deal you've never heard of' and now, Fact Check answers your questions on the TPP.

The agreement, seven years in the making, was the jewel in the ground of the Obama administration's "pivot to Asia" ”” a plan to cement American leadership and influence in the Pacific region.

The 11 other TPP nations could conceivably forge ahead without the US, but that seems unlikely given much of the agreement's appeal was better access to the vast US economy.

The broader ramifications of a Trump presidency for global trade could be considerable.

He has promised to formally label China a "currency manipulator", and vowed to pursue trade cases against China at the World Trade Organisation (WTO).
'No indication Trump would renegotiate': Bishop

The Peterson Institute for International Economics in the US reported Mr Trump's trade policies could trigger trade wars with China and Mexico, and lead to a recession costing 4 million American jobs.

Mr Trump promised he would renegotiate international trade agreements if he won the White House, and argued that agreements like NAFTA ”” the North America trade pact covering the US, Canada and Mexico ”” were directly responsible for rust belt job losses and the decline of American manufacturing.

Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop told the ABC she did not believe Australia's 11-year-old trade agreement with the US would be at the top of the list for renegotiation.

"There is no indication that Donald Trump would want to renegotiate the Australia-US free trade agreement," she said.

"We run a trade deficit with the United States. The US has a considerable surplus so it's unlikely to change.


"In relation to the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which is a regional agreement, we are concerned that both candidates were opposed to the agreement in its current form."

Ms Bishop said Australia continued to urge the US Congress to ratify the TPP in its session during the transition period before Mr Trump's swearing-in.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-...uried,-cremated-amid-trump-presidency/8010736

So what f....ing benefit to us is the US - Australia FTA if the US has a "considerable surplus". Are we stupid or what ?

It's Australia not the US that should be renegotiating.
 
Meanwhile, back at the ranch in terms of the effect of Trump on Australia.



So what f....ing benefit to us is the US - Australia FTA if the US has a "considerable surplus". Are we stupid or what ?

It's Australia not the US that should be renegotiating.

Well what is the problem, Shorten and the Labor Party want to help the needy.
Well the U.S has more homeless than most, first world countries.
The U.S has a minimum wage of $7, we have a minimum wage of $18, so why shouldn't Shorten congratulate Trump for wanting to help their own needy?
 
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