Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[drsmith]

Sportsbet odds (Hillary/Donald)

Winning candidate: $1.30/$3.75 + 4 others at plenty.
Popular vote percentage: $1.28/$3.50.

http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting...016/US-Presidential-Election-2016-476310.html

 

[basilio]

If this election focused on the qualities and failures of Hilary Clinton and some semblance of credible policy by the Republicians with a candidate who wasn't one of the nastiest pieces of work yet seen ... the GOP would be in with a big show.

Have a look at just how insanely nasty Trump has been on his run to "Make America Great" and the Republicians who can't stomach his behaviour.

Republicans fear Trump's parade of insults might help cost him the election

2016 could be a winnable election for the GOP, especially given Clinton’s continued email woes – yet all year Trump has lurched from one self-inflicted crisis to another

David Smith in Washington

Tuesday 1 November 2016 21.00 AEDT
Last modified on Tuesday 1 November 2016 21.33 AEDT

What do Rosie O’Donnell, Serge Kovaleski, Megyn Kelly, John McCain, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Gonzalo Curiel, Khizr Khan and Alicia Machado have in common?

All have been on the receiving end of Donald Trump’s insults as the businessman spent more than a year pursuing futile feuds that may go a long way toward costing him the White House.

A chorus of hands slapping against Republican foreheads was almost audible each time the nominee threw off any pretence of self-discipline and lashed out, distracting onlookers from his efforts to present himself as moderate or exploit Hillary Clinton’s weaknesses. This week they are doubtless praying that he doesn’t squander the golden opportunity presented by the FBI’s investigation into a new batch of emails that may be related to Clinton’s private server.

“Trump is on the verge of blowing it,” Ari Fleischer, former White House press secretary, tweeted on 30 September. “Free advice: Focus on Hillary. No one else. Hillary is your opponent. No one else is.”

For William Cohen, a former defence secretary and Republican senator for Maine, the breaking point came in July last year. Soon after launching his presidential campaign, Trump said of the Arizona senator and former Vietnam prisoner of war John McCain: “He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

It later emerged that Trump had been granted four education draft deferments and one medical. The latter was due to bone spurs in his heels.

Cohen, who was McCain’s best man, recalled: “I was outraged about it. To this day John McCain can’t lift his arm to shoulder level. To say that about what he went through being tortured, his sense of patriotism, from a man who avoided the draft with a bone spur? No, I don’t think so. It turned me immediately.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...mp-insults-us-election-result-republicans-gop

 

[basilio]

And talking of Reds under the bed what do we make of these reports ? Whose pulling the strings in the USA election ?

Trump hotline to Moscow bank revealed as FBI probes Kremlin's five-year plan: reports
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Washington: The word "explosive" has been rendered meaningless in this US presidential election – so I'll just state this baldly. The FBI is investigating a deliberate, years-long Russian effort by which Moscow co-opted Donald Trump, and the Republican Party candidate had, until very recently, a super-secret internet server, which carried heavy, two-way traffic between his Manhattan tower and a Russian bank with close ties to the Kremlin.

In a campaign without filters, in which the improbable has proved likely, it has become difficult to rule out anything as impossible.

But three new, and separate, investigative reports by The New York Times, Mother Jones and Slate magazines are stunning "other shoe dropping" developments as Trump recovers from his "sexual predator" revelations, and just as Democrat Hillary Clinton is swamped by the fallout from the "Comey letter".

Here's what Mother Jones is reporting:

"A former senior Western intelligence operative, a specialist in Russian counterintelligence deemed credible in Washington, has provided the FBI with evidence that Trump 'and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on Clinton, since Russian intelligence had compromised Trump during his visits to Moscow – so that he could be blackmailed'.

"The intelligence report, which the operative had provided to the FBI, reads: 'Russian regime has been cultivating, supporting and assisting TRUMP for at least 5 years. Aim, endorsed by PUTIN, has been to encourage splits and divisions in western alliance'.

"The Clinton data was a dossier based on bugged conversations by Clinton during various visits to Moscow and on intercepted phone calls, it says.

"Initially retained by a Republican client, but later by a Democrat, to research Trump, the operative said his investigations confirmed the existence of an 'established exchange of information between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin of mutual benefit'.

"After multiple exchanges and information sharing about Trump and his inner circle with the FBI since August 2016, the operative concluded: 'It's quite clear there was or is a pretty substantial [FBI] inquiry going on'.

http://www.theage.com.au/world/us-e...lins-fiveyear-trump-plan-20161101-gsfcay.html

The rest of the story is way out there. Looks like it came from The Manchurian Candidate.

 

[basilio]

And of course the really, really juicy bit is at the end of the story.

How does one traditionally compromise foreign leaders in Moscow/Peking/wherever to get them to see things your way ?

Yep.. the honey trap.

 

[qldfrog]

And talking of Reds under the bed what do we make of these reports ? Whose pulling the strings in the USA election ?

http://www.theage.com.au/world/us-e...lins-fiveyear-trump-plan-20161101-gsfcay.html

The rest of the story is way out there. Looks like it came from The Manchurian Candidate.

absolutlely hillarious seiing the so called left attacking Trump as a soviet agent, remember Mac Carty guys?
or the Pershing rockets in Europe?
Basically what being really liberal means freedom (real freedom from state as well), free thinking, etc etc
Maybe the russians love their children too and would like to avoid Clinton starting her war mongering there..
This has been a revelation, I thought gilliard was just a CFMEU manipulation not a representation of the electorate but I start having my doubts.When did aussie schools stopped mandating reading of 1984, Soljenitsyn (sp?), animal farm and lthe teaching of history for the last two centuries

 

[Knobby22]

There is clear evidence of Russian involvement in the election but there is also obvious domestic influences. I don't really think it matters that Russia is helping Trump as if he gets in the CIA will ensure that any influence will be negated. It's not hilarious however.

 

[qldfrog]

There is clear evidence of Russian involvement in the election but there is also obvious domestic influences. I don't really think it matters that Russia is helping Trump as if he gets in the CIA will ensure that any influence will be negated. It's not hilarious however.

The hilarity (no pun intended) comes from the mental twisting the so called left is doing to offer valid arguments in supporting Hillary;a politician who is worse than the neo con in foreign affairs, who is heavily in bed with wall street, news propaganda machine and the military lobby and who sabotaged Bernie:
Not may, but has and will;
I believe Bernie had some real left thinking and honesty, even if I am in disagreement with some of his proposed policies.
And should Trump win, I will breath easier knowing no war with Russia is coming.Being a stock forum, I believ members should ensure they are actually ready for that event: a Trump victory ;
a bet that way is more rewarding than a win from hillary in risk return ratio.
And if Hillary win, invest in US arm firms
My 2c

 

[Knobby22]

In hindsight, investing in arms firms and Halliburton when Bush II and his crony Vice president was in would have made a fortune.

I have gone to cash for 1/3 of my portfolio due to the Trump comeback. Saw other investors around the world selling today. Good for shorters. Still think Clinton should win which would create a relief rally. If Trump wins, Brexit will look like a picnic. Trump is not a true Republican. I agree with his new right hand man about what to do about corruption but there is little policy in other areas. I disagree strongly with the tax cuts to the rich and rise in defence spending. Goes against all his rhetoric.

Will he be a good President? He has no depth however I am hoping his team could pull something together. would be nice to see policy in advance however as they may be got at.

 

[qldfrog]

In hindsight, investing in arms firms and Halliburton when Bush II and his crony Vice president was in would have made a fortune.

I have gone to cash for 1/3 of my portfolio due to the Trump comeback. Saw other investors around the world selling today. Good for shorters. Still think Clinton should win which would create a relief rally. If Trump wins, Brexit will look like a picnic. Trump is not a true Republican. I agree with his new right hand man about what to do about corruption but there is little policy in other areas. I disagree strongly with the tax cuts to the rich and rise in defence spending. Goes against all his rhetoric.

Will he be a good President? He has no depth however I am hoping his team could pull something together. would be nice to see policy in advance however as they may be got at.

Fair, but not sure we will have such a relief rally with any strength in case of hillary win. a few % before being back to status quo is my uninformed opinion

 

[McLovin]

I have gone to cash for 1/3 of my portfolio due to the Trump comeback.

Despite the media trying to portray the race as close, Clinton is still well ahead. She has given up her p*ssy grab votes that came in October, but the fact remains Trump needs to win every swing state and also win a couple of Clinton safe states like Colorado or Pennsylvania.

A Trump victory would in all likelihood require the Electoral College and the popular vote to be split ie Trump wins the EC but loses the popular vote.

At this point if I was a Democrat, I'd be concerned at how fast Clinton support has fallen in the last week, but if I was a Republican I'd still be extremely worried that I'd be losing the election.

 

[Tisme]

"Where is/can Donald Trump take US "

I'd say we know the answer to that now = down the garden path

 

[luutzu]

And talking of Reds under the bed what do we make of these reports ? Whose pulling the strings in the USA election ?

http://www.theage.com.au/world/us-e...lins-fiveyear-trump-plan-20161101-gsfcay.html

The rest of the story is way out there. Looks like it came from The Manchurian Candidate.

Trump is accused of being the Frank Sinatra's version of The Manchurian Candidate.

Clinton is the Denzel Washington of The Manchurian (Corp.) Candidate.


I heard that WikiLeaks also reveal how senior Clinton aides discussed the same Red-bating strategy against Trump. I don't think you'd need to involve the Red menace to go against Trump, but seems like it might work... and also setting up potential confrontation with Putin and his KGB menace.

I mean, you can't accuse a country of hacking and setting up puppets at the highest level, then do nothing about it. Right?

 

[luutzu]

LOL

STUDY: Big Three Networks Attack Comey Over Clinton by 3 to 1

http://archive.is/jrugc


This election in the USA has actually been a good thing. Now we know where the biased U.S. media stand

(Sorry if link or editing doesn't work as l previously do, posting from a mobile)

But you're assuming that Clinton and her supporters are Leftist. They're not. They're Centre-Right. Same with Obama and Clinton the First.


Trump isn't that much different to Clinton anyway. Only difference is he said what Clinton is already doing or have already done. That and on a personal level, Clinton doesn't sexually abuse women.

So Trump talks about ending the TPP... as if that's going to happen.

Or Trump not believing in CC... Clinton believes in CC but doesn't give two fs about it. She brags about promoting fracking all over the world during her term as SOS; told bankers that greenies should go get a job, and maybe grow up or something. And have we heard anything from her about the protests against the Dakota access pipeline where the Natives and greenies are being arrested enmasse?

The power at the top are all the same. That's true in every state under every form of gov't.

In a democracy, the people have some room to protest and make their voices heard. But it seem that in the US, that's slowly being taken away and "ring leaders" are being charge with "rioting" and resisting arrest, or criminal trespassing... so those who want to lead the protests better have good money set aside for legal defences.

 

[luutzu]

In hindsight, investing in arms firms and Halliburton when Bush II and his crony Vice president was in would have made a fortune.

I have gone to cash for 1/3 of my portfolio due to the Trump comeback. Saw other investors around the world selling today. Good for shorters. Still think Clinton should win which would create a relief rally. If Trump wins, Brexit will look like a picnic. Trump is not a true Republican. I agree with his new right hand man about what to do about corruption but there is little policy in other areas. I disagree strongly with the tax cuts to the rich and rise in defence spending. Goes against all his rhetoric.

Will he be a good President? He has no depth however I am hoping his team could pull something together. would be nice to see policy in advance however as they may be got at.

It's still not too late.

Lockheed Martin's [or one of those arms pushers] said last year that SE Asia is a "new growth opportunity" area.

But are there no other businesses to get behind?

 

[luutzu]

The hilarity (no pun intended) comes from the mental twisting the so called left is doing to offer valid arguments in supporting Hillary;a politician who is worse than the neo con in foreign affairs, who is heavily in bed with wall street, news propaganda machine and the military lobby and who sabotaged Bernie:
Not may, but has and will;
I believe Bernie had some real left thinking and honesty, even if I am in disagreement with some of his proposed policies.
And should Trump win, I will breath easier knowing no war with Russia is coming.Being a stock forum, I believ members should ensure they are actually ready for that event: a Trump victory ;
a bet that way is more rewarding than a win from hillary in risk return ratio.
And if Hillary win, invest in US arm firms
My 2c

Sanders was screwed over by the head of the DNC. And he still managed to win some 47% of the votes.

The head of the DNC was forced to resigned once WikiLeak proved she rigged it for Hillary. Guess who replace Schultz as the new head of the DNC? A former CNN consultant to give a few questions to Hillary for the second "townhall" presidential debate.

I guess the message is, if you want to rise to the top, you know what to do.

 

[Tisme]

Will he be a good President? He has no depth however I am hoping his team could pull something together. would be nice to see policy in advance however as they may be got at.

He reigns as congenitally uncouth and it would require a masterclass to rein him in. A dangerous experiment by the republican party and supporters.

 

[luutzu]

Never underestimate the need for people to saddle up to a notion that best describes their bias, no matter how distant and disconnected the choices are.

Why is it that each time I read your replies, I have to examine if or how it probably apply to myself?

Done it, and no, no bias from me


btw, I just found out that the Irish actually had their own language - Gaelic? I thought you guys speak English all these time.

 

[luutzu]

He reigns as congenitally uncouth and it would require a masterclass to rein him in. A dangerous experiment by the republican party and supporters.

They need Trump to be a Ronald Reagan and read what's written for him; do as he's told.

The Donald is too much of himself and might get out of line. Unlike Hillary who's been in the game long enough and gain a lot of wisdom on the workings of the world.

 

[Tisme]

They need Trump to be a Ronald Reagan and read what's written for him; do as he's told.

The Donald is too much of himself and might get out of line. Unlike Hillary who's been in the game long enough and gain a lot of wisdom on the workings of the world.

Nancy was a one of a kind president and drew from Maggie Thatcher's directions.

 

[Knobby22]

It's still not too late.

Lockheed Martin's [or one of those arms pushers] said last year that SE Asia is a "new growth opportunity" area.

But are there no other businesses to get behind?

Clinton promises to spend on major infrastructure. maybe an opportunity for Transurban, though frankly I am always terrified when Aussie companies do stuff in the US. they are always getting sued or conned.