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Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

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That's a monumental bit of spinning you've attempted to try and cover what really was a sloppy piece of reading on your part.

Probably easier just to admit you made a mistake. No one will think any less of you.

Admit what mistake?.....You are talking through A$$.
 
At last an article, that captures my take, on why the silent majority are pi$$ed off.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a...ise-the-trump-effect-is-about-survival/#page1

It isn't written overly well, but the overall sentiment is spot on. IMO

What Brendan Grylls is suggesting, is the only sensible tax on a non renewable resource.
All of our resources should have a $/ volume tax, not a tax on the profit.
The resource extraction and production cost, should be benchmarked against competing Countries costs and a $/Kg extraction cost applied.
This should be set so as to not make our resource uncompetitive, but ensure we receive value for every ton removed.
 

Where did you get your information from regarding protests after Obama was elected?

http://history.stackexchange.com/qu...e-protests-after-presidential-elections-in-us

However, I cannot find news records of mass protests after the previous Obama or Bush elections

Is this just an example of the media playing the news up, or is this actually the first time in recent history such mass protests have been organised against the new president immediately after the election?


I think you are talking through your A$$ again....Best you do some home work first next time.
 

What a good idea.
 
What a good idea.

Yes, if you troll back to the introduction of the resource rent tax, you will find I said an increase in the royalties on tonnage was the way to go.

It was probably in the Useless Labor party thread, as the super profits tax was a useless suggestion.
 

From what I heard of the polling data, those who voted for Trump now aren't all "old white men" (aka, racist? patriots? ). They're from the same area that voted for Obama.

So it's the getting screwed by the likes of Hillary and Obama that turn them to Trump, or to sit it out and not give a dam.

Even women aren't too hot for Hillary. I think she got around the same percentage as Trump for women. How does that happen?

Good thing she didn't win, else those supporters of hers might actually get cuts when the crazy Dems literally break that glass ceiling above whatever hall they were gathering to celebrate her anointment.

I'm glad Trump win.

It will finally put an ugly face to go with the ugly politics. So either voters don't mind that, or they'd protest and demand changes. That or Trump could start a war with China and unite the yanks in fear again.
 

That'd be like asking the gov't to establish trade policies to increase actual competition instead of more protectionism.

It always boils down to the old argument: for the economy to grow, gov't have got to get tough on the poor but give the rich more loving.

Serious man, that's what all gov't policies boils down to.

How do we help the poor off the dole? Kick their azzes.

How do we get the rich and corporations to pay their share of our wealth? Cut their taxes.

How do we afford welfare? We can't! Cut it.

How do we afford tax cuts? We can! Cut it so that it may grow.
 
That or Trump could start a war with China and unite the yanks in fear again.

Americans aren't galvanised by fear, they unify through the arrogant belief they are mankind's salvation manifest as US citizens and fighting men.

The rise of the US was as a manufacturing hub for the British Empire, its big boosts came from supplying the British war machine in both big wars, plus Russian in the second.

The inflate their worth by claiming victory against impossible odds or coming to the rescue of the under dog, while profiting greatly for the exercise. The US has never empire built, but enjoyed the fruits of fallen ones and the lack of any to profiteer from post WW2 means they are in decline and the older white guy population can see it happening (60%++ voted for Trump).
 

He thought it was unfair, but rules are rules and he must have to live with it.

It's like how Clinton would've follow Bill and Barry and put Goldman Sach into Treasury. Trump would have none of that. He's thinking of putting JPMorgan Chase's. Dimon is better than gold.

He's also putting his current Energy advisor - billionaire oil baron Hamm - as possible Secretary of Energy. Take that renewables!
 
He's also putting his current Energy advisor - billionaire oil baron Hamm - as possible Secretary of Energy. Take that renewables!

I remember being part of a large corporation that is now a big player on the world stage. Back in the mid 80's we could see the need for new industry that would spawn new income, it was renewables. It was easily understood that a need had to be established to create consumers, so we bounced around ideas like climate change, pollution, scarcity of resource, etc.

I'm sure a business man in charge of energy would see the value in flogging high profit technologies to abate climate change and oil depletion. The low profit me too manufacturing can be left to China and Mexico.
 

Their rise came about long before the two World Wars, McQueen.

Started soon after they, with French help, kick the British out; then kick the Brits again in 1812; then buy off Louisiana Territory from that short dude; then "explore" and take half of Mexico; then kick the Spanish out of Florida... that and most of the Natives.

So they got a few scores of experience and empire building before Teddy bear Roosevelt thought to build some boat, take over a canal from the savages who don't know what to do with their land, and arms everyone who needs some leases.

But yea, maybe the older White guys can see the decline, but they ought to also see that Trump is a pussycat with fake tan and mane. He's no empire builder.

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Starting to watch Roman Empire on Netflix.

Commodus taking over from Marcus Aurelius and run the empire into the ground with hubris and imperial overreach.

Not sure if Aurelius' reign over the same borders as Augustus had drawn, but it just go to show that you cannot control every corner of the world. You'd be bankrupt.

Iraq is estimated to cost the US about $US7 trillion in another couple of years. That's a lot of cash. You could buy a lot of oil and a whole lot of friends, and maybe a build a few schools and send a few hundred million kids to uni.
 
To imply there was no form of protest at all is inaccurate at best, deceitful at worst.

So you are saying one thing and meaning something else.
No where did I say that there was Mass protest.

However hate crimes are a form of protest. Which you've been linked to. Honestly I've got no idea why you're trying to argue. It happened, Obama became president and some people didn't take it peacefully.

Your whole argument seems to be that the Right aren't violent but the Left are. Which is utter bull**** and quite honestly if you actually believe that you've got a much lower IQ than I could have ever imagined.
 
The mistake where you said it was Chomsky that compared Trump to Goebbells.


Who gives a dam who said it...Both Chomsky and Polychroniou are socialists and tarred with the same brush.

The comments made by Polychroniou were absolutely ruthless and typical of the way in which the socialist left wing operate.

Lies..Lies..and more lies and propaganda to discredit a guy who has not yet been given the chance to prove himself........Accept that Trump has won in a democratic way and get over it.

On November 8, 2016, Donald Trump managed to pull the biggest upset in US politics by tapping successfully into the anger of white voters and appealing to the lowest inclinations of people in a manner that would have probably impressed Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels himself.

But what exactly does Trump’s victory mean, and what can one expect from this megalomaniac when he takes over the reins of power on January 20, 2017? What is Trump’s political ideology, if any, and is “Trumpism” a movement? Will US foreign policy be any different under a Trump administration?

For more original Truthout election coverage, check out our election section, “Beyond the Sound Bites: Election 2016.”

Some years ago, public intellectual Noam Chomsky warned that the political climate in the US was ripe for the rise of an authoritarian figure. Now, he shares his thoughts on the aftermath of this election, the moribund state of the US political system and why Trump is a real threat to the world and the planet in general.

C.J. Polychroniou for Truthout: Noam, the unthinkable has happened: In contrast to all forecasts, Donald Trump scored a decisive victory over Hillary Clinton, and the man that Michael Moore described as a “wretched, ignorant, dangerous part-time clown and full-time sociopath” will be the next president of the United States. In your view, what were the deciding factors that led American voters to produce the biggest upset in the history of US politics?

Noam Chomsky: Before turning to this question, I think it is important to spend a few moments pondering just what happened on November 8, a date that might turn out to be one of the most important in human history, depending on how we react.



Even barnacle Bill said Trump was mad......I bet that went down with the Trump fans in the US.
 

We'll have to differ on that. The US is nothing close to the Spanish, British and German Empires. They were part of a mercantile arm of the British Empire and derived their wealth from supply of finished goods prior to WW1. As late as the US civil war, it was fairly well accepted that if the Brits moved to protect their Southern States interests it could have done so, but thought better of it.

There was never any real concerted effort to put in the good fight in 1776 nor 1812, because they had better options elsewhere. The yanks tried it on with Canada, but they backed down quickly once the Brits threatened a heavy hand.
 

Any one would see the benefits, but not a business man whose wealth comes from oil.

I don't think you guys drop the renewables idea from lack of demand or interest in clean air and energy security etc.

It was most likely drop because the powers that be have ship loads of energy they've invested truckloads of infrastructure and markets for, already. So it'd be more economical to just keep digging and pumping.



I heard that China is leading the world in Solar technologies and manufacturing.

It was invented way back during the space race, power all satellites and space station [right?]. But it was shelved for domestic consumption.

Why?

The US own and/or control practically all world's the oil fields; got that infrastructure and auto manufacturing built around oil and fossil. That and the military industrial complex needs jobs arming tyrants and liberate terrorists.

China is polluting itself to death with fossil. Then all the good oil/gas fields are staked out and protected [besides the seas nearby it]... so it will have to diversify and get green.


See how capitalism, if left too large and too powerful, could ruin progress and people?
 
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