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Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

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Gringotts Bank said:
Not fit for top job. I think even Trump would have more respect for a deceased enemy. She seems deliriously happy about it.
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Hillary in a nutshell. America's enemies would rejoice to see her elected.

I think US voters are smarter than she thinks.
 
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Rubio wouldn't have won because the Democrats and progressives wouldn't have liked him; and neither will the Republican voters - that's why Trump beat him.

I'll look for the interview I mentioned.

Either way, the Clinton Foundation is just a legal way to house bribery.

Anyone who know any people in Third World politics will recognise these kind of scams. We in the West are a bit more forgiving because we're not so used to seeing corruption.

No good and honest public servant ever get anywhere near this kind of "donation". That's been true since the beginning of organised society.

Good and patriotic public servant will serve their country and then retire into modest means they started life with. Those honourable servants who have to take briberies because if they don't they'd be replaced by those who will... those will store it aside and give it away to the poor. Oh wait... except the CLintons because anyone who look at their policies know they ain't about the poor or the desperate.


 
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Logique said:
Hillary in a nutshell. America's enemies would rejoice to see her elected.

I think US voters are smarter than she thinks.
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They are... and that's why the Clinton's campaign message is "look at how much more horrible Trump is".

In the final debate, she doubled down on setting up a No-Fly Zone over Syria. She already knew how many civilians will be killed if the US were to take our Syria's air defences assets - radar, weapons systems etc. have to be knocked out.

Then there's the Pentagon estimate showing that the US will need something like 70,000 US personnel to carried out and enforce the no-fly zone. This estimate was before Russia came to the party.

But she's fine with it...

I guess it's not as bad as Trump saying the US is weak and needs more nukes.
 
The more I think about it and the scarier I become of an Hillary victory;
Trump victory will be a mess, but overall i doubt it will be dangerous on the world stage;
Probably a better choice for the world as I expect Trump to retreat and leave alone the next Irak/Libya/Syria;
On the other end, a victory of Hillary would see her in need of a serious boost/manipulation for a second mandate and I would not be the least surprise if she starts an initial proxy (potentially via some of her friendly terrorists El Qaeda style) or cold war with Russia again;
And you know where/when it starts, not where/when it stops;
Once again, as she will win (how could the establishment allow anything else), I wish I was wrong
 
Hillary and Bill are, to all intents and purposes, above the law, that's scary. They would further entrench themselves.

Good read of Trumps's expected policies:
 
Remember all those delighted news anchors and talk heads on opinion shows in the US gaffawing and chortling about our knuckleheaded, foot in mouth PM ?

Now it ain't so funny is it, now they have their own version running for president, plus a woman as the alternative.....life is sometimes very confronting.
 
As promised.

Some of the promises are good, some are awful. Hopefully there will be a Trump mark 2 in the next election who is a bit more capable and can come up with better policies. The existing Republican policies are a joke and at least he is rocking the boat. The Republicans do better out of the corruption than the Democrats so I would be amazed that they would let him do those items. Many if not most of the Democrats in Congress would also struggle to let these past.

His new aide is quite good and he is the one that formulated the anti corruption policies.


OCTOBER 22, 2016
DONALD J. TRUMP CONTRACT WITH THE AMERICAN VOTER

“Therefore, on the first day of my term of office, my administration will immediately pursue the following six measures to clean up the corruption and special interest collusion in Washington, DC:

FIRST, propose a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress;
SECOND, a hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public safety, and public health);
THIRD, a requirement that for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated;
FOURTH, a 5 year-ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service;
FIFTH, a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government;
SIXTH, a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections.

On the same day, I will begin taking the following seven actions to protect American workers:

FIRST, I will announce my intention to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw from the deal under Article 2205
SECOND, I will announce our withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership
THIRD, I will direct my Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator
FOURTH, I will direct the Secretary of Commerce and U.S. Trade Representative to identify all foreign trading abuses that unfairly impact American workers and direct them to use every tool under American and international law to end those abuses immediately
FIFTH, I will lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars’ worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal.
SIXTH, lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks and allow vital energy infrastructure projects, like the Keystone Pipeline, to move forward
SEVENTH, cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix America’s water and environmental infrastructure

Additionally, on the first day, I will take the following five actions to restore security and the constitutional rule of law:

FIRST, cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama
SECOND, begin the process of selecting a replacement for Justice Scalia from one of the 20 judges on my list, who will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States
THIRD, cancel all federal funding to Sanctuary Cities
FOURTH, begin removing the more than 2 million criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel visas to foreign countries that won’t take them back
FIFTH, suspend immigration from terror-prone regions where vetting cannot safely occur. All vetting of people coming into our country will be considered extreme vetting.

Next, I will work with Congress to introduce the following broader legislative measures and fight for their passage within the first 100 days of my Administration:

1. Middle Class Tax Relief And Simplification Act. An economic plan designed to grow the economy 4% per year and create at least 25 million new jobs through massive tax reduction and simplification, in combination with trade reform, regulatory relief, and lifting the restrictions on American energy. The largest tax reductions are for the middle class. A middle-class family with 2 children will get a 35% tax cut. The current number of brackets will be reduced from 7 to 3, and tax forms will likewise be greatly simplified. The business rate will be lowered from 35 to 15 percent, and the trillions of dollars of American corporate money overseas can now be brought back at a 10 percent rate.

2. End The Offshoring Act Establishes tariffs to discourage companies from laying off their workers in order to relocate in other countries and ship their products back to the U.S. tax-free.

3. American Energy & Infrastructure Act. Leverages public-private partnerships, and private investments through tax incentives, to spur $1 trillion in infrastructure investment over 10 years. It is revenue neutral.

4. School Choice And Education Opportunity Act. Redirects education dollars to gives parents the right to send their kid to the public, private, charter, magnet, religious or home school of their choice. Ends common core, brings education supervision to local communities. It expands vocational and technical education, and make 2 and 4-year college more affordable.

5. Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act. Fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across state lines, and lets states manage Medicaid funds. Reforms will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA: there are over 4,000 drugs awaiting approval, and we especially want to speed the approval of life-saving medications.

6. Affordable Childcare and Eldercare Act. Allows Americans to deduct childcare and elder care from their taxes, incentivizes employers to provide on-site childcare services, and creates tax-free Dependent Care Savings Accounts for both young and elderly dependents, with matching contributions for low-income families.

7. End Illegal Immigration Act Fully-funds the construction of a wall on our southern border with the full understanding that the country Mexico will be reimbursing the United States for the full cost of such wall; establishes a 2-year mandatory minimum federal prison sentence for illegally re-entering the U.S. after a previous deportation, and a 5-year mandatory minimum for illegally re-entering for those with felony convictions, multiple misdemeanor convictions or two or more prior deportations; also reforms visa rules to enhance penalties for overstaying and to ensure open jobs are offered to American workers first.

8. Restoring Community Safety Act. Reduces surging crime, drugs and violence by creating a Task Force On Violent Crime and increasing funding for programs that train and assist local police; increases resources for federal law enforcement agencies and federal prosecutors to dismantle criminal gangs and put violent offenders behind bars.

9. Restoring National Security Act. Rebuilds our military by eliminating the defense sequester and expanding military investment; provides Veterans with the ability to receive public VA treatment or attend the private doctor of their choice; protects our vital infrastructure from cyber-attack; establishes new screening procedures for immigration to ensure those who are admitted to our country support our people and our values

10. Clean up Corruption in Washington Act. Enacts new ethics reforms to Drain the Swamp and reduce the corrupting influence of special interests on our politics.

On November 8th, Americans will be voting for this 100-day plan to restore prosperity to our economy, security to our communities, and honesty to our government.

This is my pledge to you.

And if we follow these steps, we will once more have a government of, by and for the people.”
 
The biggest reason I fear Trump, being an Australia, is the budget over run and a share market crash from the above policies.

Saul Eastlake has provided the figures:

Donald Trump's policies would significantly increase the US Budget deficit.

The bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB) last month estimated that the combination of tax cuts and spending increases proposed by Donald Trump would add $US5.3 trillion to US public debt over the next decade, lifting it from 77 per cent to 105 per cent of GDP.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-...mic-disasters-eslake/7968458?section=analysis
 
What a bracing set of policies Donald Trump want's to implement. Tearing up Climate Change legislation jumps out pretty quickly as does going full bore on fossil fuel development and dispensing with any regulations that protect the environment. Clearly CC is just a giant hoax.

Exiting 2 million "criminals", stopping immigration form dodgy countries.

Don't think I like this guys policies.
 
So what happens when Donald Trump loses the election ? This particular article offers a scary perspective.


http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/com...loses-to-hillary-clinton-20161024-gs9npd.html
 
basilio said:
So what happens when Donald Trump loses the election ? This particular article offers a scary perspective.
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Definitely will be a Donald Trump mark II, however there will be a Bernie Sanders mark II also.
That is not a bad thing in my view.

Next election will be very interesting.
 
seriously, you are worried about Trump action on deficit figures? Look at Obama figures...
Of course, as per labour argument here, there was the GFC and many pockets to fill..
 
Knobby22 said:
Definitely will be a Donald Trump mark II, however there will be a Bernie Sanders mark II also.
That is not a bad thing in my view.

Next election will be very interesting.
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Neither will be needed with a good patriotic war orchestrated by Hillary!!!
the usual Unity, nation, heroes etc etc
 
qldfrog said:
seriously, you are worried about Trump action on deficit figures? Look at Obama figures...
Of course, as per labour argument here, there was the GFC and many pockets to fill..
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Yes, it will be far, far worse. Huge debts with the US in real trouble. You have to compare policies. Cutting taxes and spending more raises the debt quickly. I can't even see how you can compare.

And its not just me, its economists like Saul Eastlake. David Murray expressed his fear. If Trump wins there will be a huge share market crash. If Trump starts catching up you will see people bail out early. I have sold a few things but not enough, though I don't expect Trump to win.
 
luutzu said:
No one in the mainstream can really be called a "Lefty".
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There has been a tsunami of leaks coming from Wikileaks damaging the Clintons.

CNN (Clinton News Network) telling viewers not to read the leaks, CNN will decide what is newsworthy.

Joke

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