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Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by basilio, Dec 9, 2015.

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  1. Smurf1976

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    Regardless of the detail or arguments for or against Trump as President, he's most certainly unconventional. I don't think anyone would argue with that no matter what their political views - Trump is unconventional when compared to previous Presidents and other national leaders.

    That being so, he's unconventional, as investors / traders we'd be wise to bear that in mind given that he's seeking re-election next year. Expect, well, expecting unconventional things to happen would seem a reasonable thing to say and it's a reasonable assumption that at least some of those things will impact upon markets.

    Looking at the whole situation from China to the Middle East to economics to Trump himself it's all much the same. It all has a lot in common with tinder dry bush on a 45 degree day with a strong wind blowing.

    Now if the opinion polls were to show that Trump's re-election is anything other than a sure fire certainty then that amounts to a cornered wild animal does it not?

    That could get "interesting" to say the least and could well move the markets significantly (noting that credible financial organisations have already acknowledged that Trump's actions do add to market volatility). :2twocents
     
  2. bi-polar

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    Trump claims he doesn't have to produce his tax returns.
    "Show us your tax"
    "No , I'm a criminal and a president"
     
  3. sptrawler

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    The gains Friday also gave the S&P 500 index its best day in seven weeks, though the benchmark index still finished with its third straight weekly loss.

    Technology, health care and financial stocks powered much of the rally, which was spurred by mixed job market data for September. The report showed that employers are still adding jobs at a healthy clip, albeit more slowly, and that the national unemployment rate dropped to a five-decade low of 3.5%.

    As long as he keeps doing what he is doing, it appears to be working, meanwhile he has the muppet's running around in circles with pitchforks. :D
     
  4. Knobby22

    Knobby22 Mmmmmm 2nd breakfast

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    Have to feel sorry for the Kurds though hey?
     
  5. bi-polar

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    Dow Jones rose continually under the greatest blackest genius Obama the Magnificent. Then in 2017 Dow Jones stops rising and has major volatility , flat lining and Democrat sabotage .
     
  6. sptrawler

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    It is a bit strange, when Trump came in, they were demanding the U.S get out of the middle east, now they dont want them to.
    But gettkng back to the issue, I dont believe they are going to let the Kurds be over run, as usual our 24/7 press is milking it and whipping everyone into a lather. IMO
    I cant understand why everyone has to give themselves an ulcer, over a new article on a new subject, everyday . Obviously people love this mass hype, mass hysteria life, maybe they are bored who knows.
     
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    Kurds, Turks and Syrians are mostly Sunni compared with Shiite Iran. So no gain for Iran from it and no problem for Donald.
     
  8. IFocus

    IFocus You are arguing with a Galah

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    A couple of points US military action after the Kuwait war left the place in a mess with Iran, ISIS, Russia and anyone else filling the vacuum, the US were the problem remember weapons of mass destruction and Democracy coming to the middle east?

    Trumps closest republican allies are now saying Trumps actions will create a mass slaughter of the US Kurdish allies including women and children this after the US saying it wouldn't..

    Grand act of betrayal unfortunately, Australia.....take note.
     
  9. sptrawler

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    Yes, meanwhile Australia is becoming a basket case, shame that doesn't get the coverage and the kids marching down the streets.
     
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    US can't babysit forever. People forget we left the South Vietnamese for dead while the hippies cheered.

    There is a current restructure of the middle east going on.
     
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    moXJO
    You don't want a baby sitter to stay , you do want the US staying in Vietnam , you don't expect Middle East to stay as it is. On balance you may be right.
     
  12. moXJO

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    Its all politics.
    But:
    Its also who fills the vacuum. Communists doing a cleanse of "wrong think"?
    Isis regaining strength and going on another offensive?

    Middle East seems to have gotten their sht in order just enough to wind down. And lets face it, oil will become past history at some stage.
     
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    Is that the vacuum that the George Bushes gave Iraq? The "right think" of US faking its self defence in Vietnam and Menzies inviting Saigon to invite Australia , please please ? The middle east being restructured , being in order, IS on offensive, right . My head hurts.
     
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    Who said the US is "right think".
     
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    Don't know , I'm trying to untangle your mixture of thoughts.
     
  16. moXJO

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    Why ruin a proven blend
     
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    Knobby22 Mmmmmm 2nd breakfast

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    I was watching a specialist on the Kurd issue on Sky news.
    They tried to make a deal with Syria and Turkey with US help. They got rid of their heavy weapons.

    Now that the US has betrayed them it is expected in their weakened condition to be attacked by the Russians to the south and the Turks to the north. The Turks are planning to fill their territory with refugees and destroy them forever.

    ISIS will probably take some territory off them also as there will be a vacuum again.

    I really think the USA should have looked after their allies a bit better. They could have at least provided air cover. The poor Kurds are going to be bombed to death.
    All they did fighting ISIS has been forgotten.
     
  18. moXJO

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    I think a deal was already done with someone else. Kurds don't really have much negotiating power. In saying that: I don't really believe much that comes out of the media either.
     
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    I think the media will be whipping up the storm in a tea cup, as usual.
     
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  20. basilio

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    I reckon we should send them "Our thoughts and prayers" cubed. (this massacre will be really big. But of course as long as they are not from the US its not that bad is it ?)

    That's the usual response when there is another massacre in the US isn't it ?

    The karma part will happen if/when ISIS escapees/survivors from the prison camps decide they will really payout on everyone.
     
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