Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

Tisme said:

Seems my apparent spiritual and ideological doppelganger, Don, has caused a severe problem with stock markets, employment, productivity, industry, investment, etc all rocketing skyward. Damn him for not listening to the snowflakes....things could be so much better if he had.

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I wonder if he will take the credit for a massive budget deficit as well.

Bas?

Surely you are not denying your Marxism?

(notwithstanding other double takes from your post)

wayneL said:

Bas?

Surely you are not denying your Marxism?

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That's just so weird !? Why do you say I'm actually a "Marxist" ? I can understand a generalist smear thats intended to just wrap up everything I say as being "Marxist". That saves actually having to discuss any topic.

But do you actually believe I'm a card carrying or not card carrying Marxist ? Do you have any idea what that is supposed to mean ?

For the record I have never had any formal or informal or even passing interest in Marxism or Socialist Alliances or any other political group that works in those areas.

But what does that fact change ? Whatever views I've expressed on various isssues still stand. I still think our current economic and political direction has great problems. I'm still quite certain that the US choice of Donald Trump as President is a spectacular slow moving train wreck.

I suspect that in your eyes Wayne just having these views makes me a Marxist.

Just for interest here is another view of Donald Trump as President.

How long will Republicans stay silent about Trump?
Raúl M Grijalva
Too many Republicans in Washington support Trump and make excuses for him no matter how low he stoops

Fri 19 Jan 2018 01.23 AEDT Last modified on Fri 19 Jan 2018 18.39 AEDT


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The president’s latest racist rant, offensive even in the context of his intentionally offensive tenure, has set a new low bar and made it impossible to take his apologists seriously. Those apologists need to make a choice. The time for politely avoiding the necessary conversation is over.

While I’m heartened by the fact that more people every day recognize the danger this administration poses to our country, I’m stunned and disappointed by the nonchalance of my Republican colleagues. Many of them recognize the very real dangers of Trump’s presidency. I can’t help but wonder when they plan to make their feelings known.

The reactions from Republican leadership to the president’s disgusting comments on several non-white countries – which, in a telling moment, he recently claimed not to have made – have ranged from silence to mild condemnation to full-throated support. By and large, they offer Trump deference with nothing expected in return.

Why? Because it’s the easiest way for them to implement their destructive agenda and silence any doubts about whether what they’re doing is politically sustainable – or legal.

Their hypocrisy is stunning. If the party demands “law and order”, why do Republicans not hold the president accountable? Why do they remain silent when he so openly flouts our norms? The disappointing truth is that congressional Republicans are more interested in their help-the-rich agenda than in the future of our democracy.

Donald Trump is their tool. They treat the harm his behavior does to our way of life and our long-term international credibility as no more than collateral damage.

Trump forced Republicans to choose between political convenience and their consciences

Trump and his Republican allies have dismantled our institutions, wiped out legal norms, and gutted federal agencies that protect the public interest. They have provided enormous corporations and super-rich individuals with more money and concentrated power in the hands of a privileged few. They are selling off our education system, drastically reducing public health support, eliminating protections for public lands and waters, and selling off the internet to the highest bidders in corporate America.

They seem to think this agenda is worth the daily racism, constant demeaning of other people, and ugly demands for love and obedience Trump issues from the White House. Responsible leaders don’t act this way. But Republicans have embraced this disreputable leadership style and called it “honest”.

The longer this continues, the more American people will suffer. We’re already seeing critical threats to programs like Medicaid and the Child Health Insurance Program that provide important healthcare for the poor, children and persons with disabilities. Millions of financially insecure Americans are being treated as expendable. Funding to support them is being called government waste.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/18/republicans-trump-silence-racism

Well guessed folks.
Just another card carrying Congressman from Arizona.
He is a Republican

Tisme said:

It won't stop. China will have to contract its economy to cope with the retooling going on now in the USofA

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Manufacturing in the US is gone. Well, the kind that employ a lot of Americans anyway.

The high tech or localised labour/manufacturing jobs are getting automated pretty quickly.

So what the average yank could hope for is some serious investment in their crumbling infrastructures. But then who's going to pay for it when there's wars all over the place and poor people's taxes goes to taxcuts for "job creators"?

But US manufacturing might move to other places other then China though. Place the US want to buy alliance against China; or just cheaper; maybe even a bit more expensive as long as it takes the steam out of China's economy.

But the comrades got their new silk road and foreign investment into other people's infrastructures. That's where they'll send their excess workforce.

Tisme said:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=760268917515778

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To be fair, Obama say it more politely though. And that's what matters.

In his first year President Trump has become the most pro-life president in the history of the United States.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/

Donald has achieved a shutdown of US government services.

Well done Don, you are doing a great job.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-20/us-government-in-shutdown-as-funding-deal-fails-senate/9345718

SirRumpole said:

I wonder if he will take the credit for a massive budget deficit as well.

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I doubt it, his executive orders can be quashed by congress, so it's everyone else's fault and his glory

basilio said:

That's just so weird !? Why do you say I'm actually a "Marxist" ? .

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I'm guessing you consider yourself a "social progressive", as if that's a good thing in the absence of any consideration the past had some redeeming features.

Everything about your posts is marxist. You are a warrior for every self ascribed victim out there, protector of the Greens faith, enemy of the entrepreneurial powerful, prone to gutter insults and base language, argumentative for the sake of argument, unimaginative plagiarism of other's misinformed and politically biased tripe, poor comprehension of what personal freedoms are and how they are being regimented into obedience.

You give at best tacit, at worst overt support for bullying, propaganda, pillorying, polarisation, isolation, sensationalism and outright lying for the "cause". Whatever it takes, whatever the casualties, the collateral damage to this nation, we must accept a global beige of sameness, that the king really is wearing clothes and we must be punished if we don't think like you.

Admonishment from you, given your tantrum displays holds no weight.

Tink said:

In his first year President Trump has become the most pro-life president in the history of the United States.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/

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He may outwardly support the religious right, but surely, Tink, you have enough intelligence to see that he is just a fraud and will lie about anything. His personal life belies any suggestion that he is genuinely leading a moral crusade

I don't understand how he can trash talk and create friction between people without losing sleep. Anyone else in society would be beaten down and made to correct their wrong ways but he shows no regret and serves no penance. Wealthy people are immune to correction because they pay people off or hush them or terminate their employment should anyone be a threat. They have money = they have friends.

Donald Trump is a psychopath, suffers psychosis and is an 'enormous present danger', says psychiatrist
Former Harvard professor calls US President 'an extremely incapable, disordered, sick individual'

How do we know he isn't targetting the right market to get him reelected?

He won last election despite everyone saying he couldn't. All the idiot news from the Democrats (about Trump) shows they didn't learn a thing.

They have elections for the upper house this year dont they?
That's going to be the best gauge.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/16/inside-the-beltway-hostile-media-a-year-of-attacki/

POLL DU JOUR

• 91 percent of Americans say news organization slant their coverage to promote a certain point of view; 97 percent of Republicans, 91 percent of independents and 87 percent of Democrats agree.

• 88 percent say the emergence of “fake news” is a threat to American democracy; 94 percent of Republicans, 88 percent of independents and 83 percent of Democrats agree.

• 58 percent say it is “harder to be well-informed” now; 69 percent of Republicans, 61 percent of independents and 47 percent of Democrats agree.

• 51 percent cannot identify an “objective news source”; 54 percent of Republicans, 56 percent of independents and 44 percent of Democrats agree.

• 47 percent say there is so much news bias that is difficult to “sort out the facts”; 67 percent of Republicans, 51 percent of independents and 26 percent of Democrats agree.

Source: A Gallup/Knight Foundation survey of 19,196 U.S. adults conducted in September and released Tuesday.

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Tisme said:

I'm guessing you consider yourself a "social progressive", as if that's a good thing in the absence of any consideration the past had some redeeming features.

Everything about your posts is marxist. You are a warrior for every self ascribed victim out there, protector of the Greens faith, enemy of the entrepreneurial powerful, prone to gutter insults and base language, argumentative for the sake of argument, unimaginative plagiarism of other's misinformed and politically biased tripe, poor comprehension of what personal freedoms are and how they are being regimented into obedience.

You give at best tacit, at worst overt support for bullying, propaganda, pillorying, polarisation, isolation, sensationalism and outright lying for the "cause". Whatever it takes, whatever the casualties, the collateral damage to this nation, we must accept a global beige of sameness, that the king really is wearing clothes and we must be punished if we don't think like you.

Admonishment from you, given your tantrum displays holds no weight.

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Usual piece of long winded fluff with absolutely no substance whatsoever.

Some of the women celebrating Donalds' inauguration.

Macquack said:

Usual piece of long winded fluff with absolutely no substance whatsoever.

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Yes well seeing as you also have an historical axe to grind with me, I'll take your purile comment as gospel unbiased truth.

When are you several spiteful guys going to redeem your gonads from the girlyboy marxist pawn shop you loaned them to and start behaving like the adult men your parents thought you would become?

Bellenuit, I am a conservative and PRO FAMILY.
PRO LIFE - PRO FAMILY.

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If we ever forget that we are ONE NATION UNDER GOD, then we will be a nation gone under.

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