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Farm animals eat more supplements than humans.This is a Vegan thread so I'll depart, but just take care Boys and Girls, supplement companies have the ethics of Trump in a whorehouse.
Farm animals eat more supplements than humans.
Your knowledge in the Investment areas is obviously good VC, but in the General Chat threads you suffer a bit of overconfidence and a lack of knowledge, which really becomes a test of patience for some of us.
Want an ethical diet? It's not as simple as going vegan, says farmer Matthew Evans
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07...an-no-animals-die-says-matthew-evans/11266420
This >>> In fact, he found billions of animals are deliberately killed every year on Australian farms purely to protect fruit and vegetable crops for human consumption.
Mr Evans outlines the impact in his new book, On Eating Meat — which challenges both carnivores and vegans to consider their choices — and cites a number of examples, including:
"So a duck dying to protect a rice paddy for me is not much different for a cow dying to produce a steak," Mr Evans said.
- About 40,000 ducks are killed each year to protect rice production in Australia
- A billion mice are poisoned every year to protect wheat in Western Australia alone
- Apple growers can kill 120 possums a year to protect their orchards
"They are both animal deaths that happen in the name of us being able to eat.
"So there is nothing that we can do that doesn't have an impact on animals."
"So a duck dying to protect a rice paddy for me is not much different for a cow dying to produce a "
- About 40,000 ducks are killed each year to protect rice production in Australia
- A billion mice are poisoned every year to protect wheat in Western Australia alone
- Apple growers can kill 120 possums a year to protect their orchards
Want an ethical diet? It's not as simple as going vegan, says farmer Matthew Evans
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07...an-no-animals-die-says-matthew-evans/11266420
This >>> In fact, he found billions of animals are deliberately killed every year on Australian farms purely to protect fruit and vegetable crops for human consumption.
Mr Evans outlines the impact in his new book, On Eating Meat — which challenges both carnivores and vegans to consider their choices — and cites a number of examples, including:
"So a duck dying to protect a rice paddy for me is not much different for a cow dying to produce a steak," Mr Evans said.
- About 40,000 ducks are killed each year to protect rice production in Australia
- A billion mice are poisoned every year to protect wheat in Western Australia alone
- Apple growers can kill 120 possums a year to protect their orchards
"They are both animal deaths that happen in the name of us being able to eat.
"So there is nothing that we can do that doesn't have an impact on animals."
Farm animals eat more supplements than humans.
The article was reasonably balanced, taking into account the verbiage at the end from Vegan Australia spokesman Andy Faulkner. Matthew Evans is a pig farmer. What do you expect him to say?
The whole thing's a bit of a straw man. Veganism is arguably a next stage; it's not an end to all pain humans cause to other life forms. I don't know who Evans is trying to appeal to with that line of rhetoric. I don't think vegans are typically ignorant of these agricultural realities.
In addition to everything VC said above, these impacts could be significantly mitigated if there was a will to do so. A vegan world with human ingenuity could do a lot to reduce these accidental and incidental deaths. If it drives food price up, then consumers being less picky about how fruit and veg LOOKS, meaning less waste for cosmetic reasons, could also drive price down.
Culling certainly may be needed at times but I would expect these people to pretty much have a tear in their eye after pulling the trigger and hitting the mark or what have you. There is an undeniable element of some just wanting to go out and kill stuff under a pretext.
There's kind of another aspect. Killing wild vermin and feral animals, usually quickly, is not the same as raising up an animal from infancy (and even the most callous farmers usually say they develop some affection for the livestock - many claim "we love our animals"), sometimes giving it a name, and then having it slaughtered at the precise moment its physical state will yield maximum value for its carcass. The first is defensive; the second is calculated and must at some level be soul-destroying to many farmers.
Anyway for the foreseeable future there will remain a massive demand for meat, so I definitely concur with Evans that it needs to be done in a more respectful way to the unfortunate animals involved.
Prescription of antibiotics to animals both domestic and farm, contributes as much to antibiotic resistance as human prescriptions.
I cannot say it is more, but it may be.
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True, farm animals consume more antibiotics than humans, also diseases often pass from farm animals to humans living in the vicinity of factory farms, Swine flu for example has be found to spread from areas of intensive pig farms.
A modern pig farm can produce as much sewage as a small city, it is is often spread untreated polluting the air and water ways.
Fake meat or fake news ?
The meat industry is getting worried about synthetic "meat" ?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08...orrying-farmers-over-definition-meat/11378282
It's bizarre that everyone focuses on the taste and not nutrition. It's not meat, you won't get the valuable nutrients you get from meat by eating an impossible 'burger'. Why anyone would eat Frankenstein food even if it tastes like meat when you can eat real meat is beyond me. Anyway, the more idiots that eat this rubbish the more meat for me
It wont be long VC, before you will be driving the Tesla into the drive through, getting a Hungry Jacks Whopper.Getting everything you need from plant based foods is no where near as hard as you think.
Ah yes those "idiots" who care about other sentient beings... The bad temper you deliver your assumptions with says it all. Like you say, it's "beyond" you.
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