Trump Derangement Syndrome

[Darc Knight]

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Trum wouldn't be classed as one. He rants and raves and shows too many range of emotions. Habitual liar, arrogant and possibly something else. But he doesn't really fit the bill. He is too much of a friken mess.

The constant breaking of laws while building his Business. The serial lying to promote his Business. The not paying Contractors. Raping his ex-wife. The Art of the Deal scam. His open vengefulness on anyone who crosses him. The list is long.
You really show your bias and lack of understanding at times.Do you admire Trump, seek to emulate him Mo?

 

[SirRumpole]

Like bombing weddings..... precisely.

So Obama personally ordered that did he ?

So George Bush is also a sociopath because he was responsible for this.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/05/wikileaks-us-army-iraq-attack

 

[moXJO]

The constant breaking of laws while building his Business. The serial lying to promote his Business. The not paying Contractors. Raping his ex-wife. The Art of the Deal scam. His open vengefulness on anyone who crosses him. The list is long.
You really show your bias and lack of understanding at times.Do you admire Trump, seek to emulate him Mo?

No he is too emotional to be one. He never filters either.

 

[moXJO]

So Obama personally ordered that did he ?

So George Bush is also a sociopath because he was responsible for this.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/05/wikileaks-us-army-iraq-attack

Id say they all are but truth is labels dont fit or are suit to fit. The only one I really thought was close was hillary. Especially after the Clinton affair and her attacks on "miss cuban". She did whatever it took to ladder climb.
Obama has more traits in common then trump.
Trump is more schizophrenic verbal diarrhea personified.
Trump has attempted diplomatic avenues rather than drop bombs. I'm sorry but he doesn't fit the bill imo.
There are plenty of nutcase definitions that would fit better

 

[Darc Knight]

No point trying to convince Trump fan boys, but for others:

"The DSM 5 is used to diagnose a sociopath by a psychologist/psychiatrist or other licensed mental health care professional. The criteria for the proper diagnosis of a sociopath is found in the criteria for antisocial personality disorder ...
The following criteria is listed in the DSM 5 for antisocial personality disorder:

1. Persistent patterns of disregard and violation of the rights of others, present since the age of 15 and consisting of at least three of the following resulting in hurting, mistreating, and/or stealing from someone:
2. Disrespect and failure to conform to lawful behavior resulting in repeated arrests.
3. Persistent deceitfulness, using aliases, and lying to con others for personal gain.
4. Impulsive and unable to plan.
5. Easily irritated, aggressive and prone to repeated physical altercations and assaults.
6. Reckless, disregarding the safety of others and one's self.
7. Persistently irresponsible, inability to maintain consistent work behavior and/or honor financial obligations.
8. Indifferent rationalization without remorse."

https://www.betterhelp.com/advice/sociopathy/dsm-5-sociopath-diagnostic-definitions-and-symptoms/

Now, watch this, remember Trump is very litigious. You don't get dozens of people going on camera making such claims unless they knew they had proof

 

[SirRumpole]

Trump has attempted diplomatic avenues rather than drop bombs. I'm sorry but he doesn't fit the bill imo.
There are plenty of nutcase definitions that would fit better

I have to disagree. The number of people he has fired or have quit because they refuse to be yes-men indicates that Trump only listens to himself and has scant regards for the knowledge and skills of others who have been in government for much longer than him. The family split program was his idea and indicated lack of empathy for others, it was only reversed because Melania didn't like it.

He comes much closer to sociopath than most others in that position in recent memory.

 

[Tisme]

Leaders Are More Likely To Be Sociopaths

https://bigthink.com/videos/leaders-are-more-likely-to-be-sociopaths

 

[Tisme]

Jesus doesn't fair well in the pathic stakes:

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/mind-guest-blog/of-psychopaths-and-presidential-candidates/

 

[Darc Knight]

Leaders Are More Likely To Be Sociopaths

https://bigthink.com/videos/leaders-are-more-likely-to-be-sociopaths

Haven't read the link but agree with the title.


Trump has always had an attitude of being the biggest Lion in the jungle. He exhibits the same personality traits as some of the worst criminals I've unfortunately met.

 

[wayneL]

Cheap shots again. Justify your allegation that Obama is a sociopath.

Yeah I was wrong, he shows more psychopathic tendencies, rather than sociopathic.

 

[luutzu]

Like bombing weddings..... precisely.

Or "signature" droning. You know, a few Arabs hanging around in the street looking to plan something up. Or a wedding where too many of them got together.

 

[luutzu]

Precision attacks resulting in less casualties overall.

Has Trump stopped them ?

It's against International Law to drone anyone in a foreign country. You can't do extra-judicial killing. That's a war crime.

Bush Jr. just lock and torture suspects. Obama is classier and doesn't like to "torture some folks"... so he drone them. No evidence. No mess. Well, big mess where it strikes, but a double tap should clear it up...

He also sue and prosecute Whistle Blower more than any US president. So much for a Constitutional Scholar. What a douche.

He hangs out with the likes of Branson etc., then go to South Africa, gave a speech about wealth inequality. How people are doing it tough. Yah, they might do better if you didn't spent all the money bailing out your Wall St friends and kick the poor out of their homes. Or increase 2 wars to 8.

 

[luutzu]

So Obama personally ordered that did he ?

So George Bush is also a sociopath because he was responsible for this.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/05/wikileaks-us-army-iraq-attack

He signed off on it. He got a "kill list" and sign off on each drone strike every Tuesday.

Trump just doesn't bothered, he hand it over to the general to decide.

 

[Darc Knight]

Or "signature" droning. You know, a few Arabs hanging around in the street looking to plan something up. Or a wedding where too many of them got together.

We're talking bombing Terrorists, or suspected Terrorists right?

 

[Darc Knight]

I don't respect Trump, but if he personally controlled a Drone to eliminate some Terrorists I'd say "good on ya Trump!".
Some of you Trump fan boys are pretty biased.

 

[luutzu]

We're talking bombing Terrorists, or suspected Terrorists right?

Or just an ordinary Arab minding his own business.

You heard of a case where there's this Arab school teacher in a Pakistani village being surrounded by shorter Parkistani?

A drone take him and everyone at that meeting.

Turns out he's not an Arab. Just a school teacher. Turns out those around him aren't shorter Pakistani or Afghani Taliban, but school children.

Opps. It's a signature strike, what can you do. They look really bad being preached to by a tall Arab.



You can't just define someone a terrorist then sign off on taking him, and everyone near him, out. That's a war crime. Clear and simple.

And you can't have everyone liking you either. But that doesn't matter. As long as some one might one day pose a threat, they're taken out.

Imagine if other countries were to do that. Or do it on our soil. Say China or Russia decided that certain citizens of ours poses a threat to their national security. Would we be cool with them dropping a couple on the person?

How about Iran taking out Guiliani because the guy literally threaten regime change, political sabotage and marching into Tehran "soon".

Guiliani isn't just some idiot. He's the appointed lawyer to the US president. His nonsense have some weight.

But of course if you're the good guy, you get to do stuff and it's all good.

 

[SirRumpole]

He signed off on it. He got a "kill list" and sign off on each drone strike every Tuesday.

Trump just doesn't bothered, he hand it over to the general to decide.

OK, so Obama took personal responsibility. That's much less sociopathic than leaving it to someone else.

 

[luutzu]

OK, so Obama took personal responsibility. That's much less sociopathic than leaving it to someone else.

No it's not.

What responsibility did he take? Was he ever tried in the International Court? Did he ever have to answer to anyone?

That's not taking responsibility anymore than any "leader" giving a speech about any scandal. Yea, yea, we all know my underlings did those nasty stuff, but seeing how I'm the head honcho I "take full responsibility. It is my fault (I should have been better but you know who I meant right?)."

OK. let's break for lunch and a wind surf.

 

[SirRumpole]

Yet another Trump lie.

His son's meeting with Russians was first about "adoptions", now it's about getting dirt on Hilary.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-06/trump-admits-his-son-met-with-russians-in-2016/10076882

 

[SirRumpole]

What responsibility did he take? Was he ever tried in the International Court? Did he ever have to answer to anyone?

There was a war on. People get killed in wars. Was Truman prosecuted over Hiroshima ?

If Obama personally ordered targets he must have known that they could be reviewed later. If Trump just says "do what you like boys, I'll deny all knowledge", that is just hypocrisy and psychopathy.