The Turnbull Government
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Funny how he didn't mind, when he was holding the knife, it wasn't as though he was doing a great job in the big chair.IMO
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Not necessarily, the Libs are well on the nose I reckon.
He wasn't doing anything flash.
The new lib leader would want to roll out big plans after this.
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Yes it really is time to cut the crap, and get on with sorting $### out, this ridiculous electricity situation over East needs fixing.
Time both sides grew up, stopped playing politics and started telling the truth.
It really will end up in a dire situation. IMO
wayneL
VIVA LA LIBERTAD, CARAJO!
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Turdbull sews seeds of further discord in his exit speech. Stunningly hypocritical.
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I don't blame him.
The whole thing is that the people voted him in and should be the ones to throw him out.
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The Libs would want to show some leadership and actually speak to Labor and actually get something achieved. I and many other would respect that and may change a few votes. Sticking to this oppose everything BS will win no friends
IFocus
You are arguing with a Galah
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He is an ex merchant banker would else would you have expected?
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Did you really say that with a straight face. Lol
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Why not ? If people voted in what they thought was a moderate Liberal government and then got a Right wing conservative one without them voting for it, then they've been duped.
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The LNP are going through what Labour went through in the sixties. Right wing religious against left wing communism. Out of which rose the DLP.
This regime will disintegrate and will be lost for more that 20 years.
The Alp will now dominate and the growing numbers in the Greens will see them as opposition.
This regime will disintegrate and will be lost for more that 20 years.
The Alp will now dominate and the growing numbers in the Greens will see them as opposition.
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Suppose that you meet someone from overseas who has an interest in politics but zero knowledge of Australia in that context to the point that they couldn't name any party or politician. All they know is it's a democracy.
Now how do you explain the Liberal party? Who does it represent, what is its core ideology and so on?
Labor, Greens and Nationals are all at least partly explainable in terms of what they're about and who they at least sort-of represent. They might be a long way short of perfect with the implementation but at least the concept isn't too hard to grasp. For that matter you could say much the same for anything involving Pauline Hanson or Clive Palmer, at least it's possible to get your mind around where they stand.
But the Liberals? They're ???
Australia actually does need them to be a strong party. Regardless of which side you prefer the surest way to get weak government is to have no effective opposition.
Now how do you explain the Liberal party? Who does it represent, what is its core ideology and so on?
Labor, Greens and Nationals are all at least partly explainable in terms of what they're about and who they at least sort-of represent. They might be a long way short of perfect with the implementation but at least the concept isn't too hard to grasp. For that matter you could say much the same for anything involving Pauline Hanson or Clive Palmer, at least it's possible to get your mind around where they stand.
But the Liberals? They're ???
Australia actually does need them to be a strong party. Regardless of which side you prefer the surest way to get weak government is to have no effective opposition.
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An interesting "conspiracy theory" came up in conversation with a friend today.
Long story short - she's wondering if the Liberal party has made a firm decision to lose the next election and the rest is simply detail of the means of achieving it.
Rationale is that the housing bubble looks to have popped in Sydney and Melbourne at least, there's the banking royal commission, the drought, energy problems and this economic expansion has been going so long it would be a sheer miracle if there wasn't a recession during the next government's term. Put all that together and handing the whole lot to Labor (or anyone else) would be a logical decision if you're taking a long term view. Get re-elected in 2022 and spend the next decade reminding everyone of how the wheels fell off under Labor.
An interesting thought.
Long story short - she's wondering if the Liberal party has made a firm decision to lose the next election and the rest is simply detail of the means of achieving it.
Rationale is that the housing bubble looks to have popped in Sydney and Melbourne at least, there's the banking royal commission, the drought, energy problems and this economic expansion has been going so long it would be a sheer miracle if there wasn't a recession during the next government's term. Put all that together and handing the whole lot to Labor (or anyone else) would be a logical decision if you're taking a long term view. Get re-elected in 2022 and spend the next decade reminding everyone of how the wheels fell off under Labor.
An interesting thought.
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They are all in it for the money and being in Opposition doesn't pay as well as being a Cabinet Minister.
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Privatisation of government services and deregulation of business so its easier for them to rip the public off.
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And how many leaders have been flipped in the last 10 years?
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Well the wheels have been wobbling, since 2008, so sooner or later it has to come off altogether.
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The last Labor lot that tried that got voted out and Turnbull lost 14 seats.
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Morrison should have been put in ,when Abbott was flipped, it was only Fairfax and Labor pleading for Malcolm, that got him in.
