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Resisting Climate Hysteria

I'm interested in your opinion. You allege that section was rubbish, what's your evidence ?

Are you saying that you can actually find insight into scientist thought processes in the section to which I refer?
 
I'm not saying anything, you made an allegation, you back it up.

I already have. Look at the section! It's clearly aimed at a target audience of children and invites them to "Think like a scientist" and yet it offers no insight into scientific thought processes. Instead it repetitiously asserts AGW throughout.


So when one cannot convince a thinking adult, the obvious solution is to indoctrinate impressionable children in the expectation that they will grow into compliant adults!

Very sinister, it makes me sick to the pit of my stomach to see science, education and the trust of children exploited in such a manner!

Even, if I believed the AGW ideology, I would like to think that I would still have sufficient presence of mind to distance myself from such a reprehensible approach to promoting such ideology.
 
All about Willie Soon.

Wayne has offered a story on how Willie Soon has been trashed for Conflicts of Interest by accepting and not declaring large grants from the fossil fuel industry when he was writing papers that attempted to explain climate change as a result of changes in solar radiation.

Firstly there is a case for saying that solar radiation has a (small) impact on the climate. I believe that is understood and accepted by almost all CC scientists. The point of difference is that Willie and CC deniers have attempted to explain any current CC in terms of changes in solar radiation and have denied the effect of greenhouse gases as the most substantial cause of current and immediate future changes. These papers have in fact been analysed and seriously debunked by other scientists who found numerous errors in Willies methodology. It is just BS.

But on top of this area Willie has resolutely denied that there is in fact an current CC. That has made him a special pin up boy of Waynes mob. But of course Willie was too practical to just create good stories for the deniers for free. Nope. He was paid good, GOOD money for his many and varied papers. - every single one , naturally, attempting to deny

1) That there has been any CC
2) But if there has ... CO2 has nothing to do with it

So how how much was Soon paid ? At last count $1.2million. And not only that he never actually told people that the funding for his research came from energy companies. That is a reall No no when you are publishing papers in Science Journals

Short story on that is as follows


http://www.desmogblog.com/willie-soon

Actually these examples of Willie Soons capacity to generate scientific papers on payment are just a sample of his work. To appreciate the full breadth of his willingness to create a smog of uncertainty for money you have to digest his full CV.

You can check those at the URl above or look at the following source

http://polluterwatch.org/willie-soon
 
PS on Willie Soon

One of Willies early seminal papers was written in 2003 and attempted to say that there wasn't any increase in temperatures in the 20th Century. That in fact everything was pretty much ok.

The response from the scientific community ?


http://www.desmogblog.com/willie-soon

It's not a good look to quote the work of 13 scientists in your paper and then have them trash you for misinterpreting/misrepresenting their work. You look like a very dishonest scientist.
 
For anyone still looking for evidence that the world is hotter (by a BIG margin ) than it's been for whenever check out what has happened around the globe in April.

Another shattering of global record temperatures. Lots of details about record sea temperatures on our Great Barrier Reef, mass heat deaths in India and so on.


http://www.smh.com.au/environment/c...ng-it-12-months-in-a-row-20160502-gokkg2.html
 
It's not a good look to quote the work of 13 scientists in your paper and then have them trash you for misinterpreting/misrepresenting their work. You look like a very dishonest scientist.

I think the number of scientists dishonestly represented may have been somewhat higher than 13, only it wasn't in relation to Dr Soon's work, it was in relation to the generation of fraudulent claims to the purported scientific consensus!
 
I think the number of scientists dishonestly represented may have been somewhat higher than 13, only it wasn't in relation to Dr Soon's work, it was in relation to the generation of fraudulent claims to the purported scientific consensus!

Exactly, basilio's post really just reinforces my earlier point.
 

So I looked up DeSmog bas and I see that neither of these guys has a scientific qualification and are in fact, leftist activists.

The irony of the name "DeSmog" is intense as the blog has absolutely no intention to clarify the science surrounding climate change, rather, using subterfuge to promote their activism.

This is advocacy and politics, not science.

So I can safely lump them in with other lunatics, Armageddonists, vested interests and totalitarian brownshirts just like Straightjacket Hansen, Romm the wrong, Cook(ing the books), Nuttercelli, The Moonbat, Mann the butthurt and the rest of them.

Let's cut the advocacy shall we bas?
 
I am so utterly bored with the same old GREEN broken record......It is the same old tripe you were sprouting 4 years ago...
SO BORING.

As is your constant spouting of denialist propaganda and one sided interpretation of scientific studies which you have no ability to understand so you just swallow the rubbish handed out that supports your own bigoted opinions.

Typical trollism.
 
As is your constant spouting of denialist propaganda and one sided interpretation of scientific studies which you have no ability to understand so you just swallow the rubbish handed out that supports your own bigoted opinions.

Typical trollism.

It's not like you to react negatively to deliberate baiting. Everyone knows, anecdotally at least, the weather is changing and I'm guessing we are acclimating to it somewhat ...... although I am wondering if the elevated heat is affecting some people's ability to think cogently.
 
As is your constant spouting of denialist propaganda and one sided interpretation of scientific studies which you have no ability to understand so you just swallow the rubbish handed out that supports your own bigoted opinions.

Typical trollism.

There is a difference between propaganda, facts and common sense.

The Alarmist propaganda is always based on models, lies and supposition which has been been proven wrong time and time again.....

Tim Flannery...Yes??????No rains will ever fill the dams in Brisbane Sydney and Melbourne ever again.

Greenland ....Yes?????Warmer 1000 years ago than it is now......A mini ice age 500 years ago.

The Antarctic ice ...Yes???? More ice now than in previous years.

Wild fires around the world....Yes....all been occurring since records were kept back to 1925.

All a farce, a scam and manipulation of the truth year after year after year put forward by the these so called leftist activist and probably paid for by that crooked UN Climate Climate Change Committee to push their own agenda. .

On the other hand those who are in denial of man made Global Warming (oops sorry) I mean Climate Change have proven facts and use common sense.

We all believe in climate change as I have observed closing in on 90 years..I have been through severe droughts, floods, 4 cyclones, bush fires extremely hot summers and extremely cold winters.....Ah yes Climate Change is real.

Pollution in some major cities is real and certainly needs cleaning up.

So please don't come back at me with more of this nonsense. More and more people are awake to the greatest scam this world has ever seen.

It has all to do with the SUN my blessed son.
 

Sometimes, ya just gotta hit em where it hurts...

 
This is advocacy and politics, not science.

Whereas the suppression of the scientific studies done by 'a major un-named Oil multi-national' lets call them Exxon, done decades ago into C02 and it's effects on the planetary climate, confirming concerns of those that you malign above, Led to the mantra within the company ...
'We need advocacy and politics, 'not science' .

The fact that you're now in furious agreement with a poster who but a few comments back admitted to primary school level science being a Galilean heresy ..... 'Waynes World' alright....
 
Sometimes, ya just gotta hit em where it hurts...


The only thing that will change some people's minds about climate change is if their political masters have a change of attitude. It's just Collingwood V Carlton stuff for some.
 
The only thing that will change some people's minds about climate change is if their political masters have a change of attitude. It's just Collingwood V Carlton stuff for some.

Abbott's government decided to lavish billions of our tax dollars on companies to reduce GHG emissions, Direct Action.

Why waste this money if Climate Change is crap ?

noco ?
 
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The fact that you're now in furious agreement with a poster who but a few comments back admitted to primary school level science being a Galilean heresy ..... 'Waynes World' alright....

To which posts and poster do you allude?
 
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