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Resisting Climate Hysteria

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Mickel, Nov 14, 2009.

  1. Mickel

    Mickel Well-Known Member

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    A very rational and timely expose`of climate change hysteria Mickel. Unfortunately the alarmists have very short and selective attention spans and they won't read it. It has to be something lifted from the Age or the Guardian to get their attention.

    On the other hand I seldom read their rubbish (except for a laugh.) So it's a Mexican stand-off.

    By the way, Monbiot chickened out of debating the issue with Plimer.
     
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    The latest in Climate Hysteria from the Qld State Labor Government will commence for sellers of any residential property from Jan 1 2010.

    The Qld State Govt passed a law on Thurs night to compel all sellers to complete a "Sustainability Declaration". Check the Govt website here -

    http://www.dip.qld.gov.au/sustainable-housing/sustainability-declaration.html

    Check out the Declaration here - http://www.dip.qld.gov.au/resources/form/sustainable-housing/declaration.pdf

    This law comes with severe penalties for non compliance and is overseen by Premier Bligh’s husband Greg Withers, the bureaucrat (assistant director-general), who’s in charge of the state government’s Office of Climate Change.

    It is an attempt to brainwash all Queenslanders about their Climate Change agenda. Some commentators are also of the view that it would provide a rich stream of taxation for State Govts in the future.

    But watch out in the other Australian States as a spokesperson for REIA stated on radio this morning that it is on the agenda of the Federal Govt.
     
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    I posted this on another thread but it is more relevant here. They are ramping up the hysteria to get us primed for Copenhagen. I realise it is too long, but here goes.

    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/dykes-may-be-vital-in-stemming-venice-effect-20091113-iesa.html

     
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    Hysteria you call it. The rubbish is from your side of the argument. The broard generalisations and weak anecdotal without support other than what you selectively take from the past is clear enough. Your concern at changes that are being made to the detriment from your point to the real estate industry, coal et.al. exposes the bias.

    Global warming and outright deterioration of the planet is clearly self evident without the need of science, (though an objective look at the science is compelling)we can see and feel it with our own senses.

    Al Gore is not a scientist he merely puts forth his view as a concerned citizen.

    Yes the planet, has been here before in different ways. (the Book "The Sixth Extinction" paints it clearly) but in those periods, the species have been decimated to the tune of 90% You want us to go down that path.

    And I will not go down the path of reminding of the huge number of clear and observable changes, but will say, that if even 10% of what appears to be happening, happens, then all efforts need to be put in place to safeguard our planet and species from any where near the projected outcomes.

    And I believe this thread ought be linked into the thread headed "Climate Change...".
     
  7. Wysiwyg

    Wysiwyg Everyone wants money

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    Good information, thanks. Does it mean that values will increase/decrease dependent on the sustainability features? Go with the flow and make that house more sustainable. ;)
     
  8. Garpal Gumnut

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    Variation in Weather and normal changes in the environment have become the main tenets of a New Religion of the Left now that communism has been debunked as a religion without foundation.

    All the usual suspects, Crusties, Basket Weavers, Fabians, The ABC and Greens are out there trolling the message.

    Its worse than Scientology.

    gg
     
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    I don't think so. You are a "Climate Change Hysteria Denier". You obviously don't want to join the resistance movement. I think 2020's thread may be more to your liking.
     
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    explod, mate, you have hit the nail on the head.

    The one fact that everyone agrees on is that there are too many humans on the planet.

    The Chinese brought in their 1 child policy.

    This is an uncomfortable fact that no government or godbothering sect is willing to address.

    gg
     
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    Quite untrue Garpal, Lindsey Tanner spoke about just this problem last week and the way Australia might fit into the G20's forward planning to stabilise the worlds population.
    As for the Nay Sayers to climate change :horse:

    http://royalsociety.org/page.asp?id=6229
     
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    Those who have found their post(s) in this thread edited or deleted, this is why:

    From this thread:
    https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10373&highlight=copyright
     
  13. Wysiwyg

    Wysiwyg Everyone wants money

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    Plenty of government assistance available.

     
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    Wysiwyg Everyone wants money

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    And the cities of tomorrow ....
     
  15. Garpal Gumnut

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    Viz, mate, one of the unfortunate elements of debate is that when the left run with an idea and someone disagrees with it all hell breaks loose.

    The reaction against the "naysayers" goes over the top.

    In this case we are dealing with science and propoganda and the left cannot deal with the libertarian philosophy of the former, but are comfortable with the totalitarian elements of the latter.

    I rest my case.

    gg
     
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    Yes, a view largely debunked by a British High Court Judge.

    Professor Lindzen, who was a lead author of one of the IPCC's papers and is respected by both sides of the argument has set out why CO2 will not warm the planet 3-5 degrees celsius as quoted in the IPCC's modeling. Therefore the the hysteria and ETS (and the whole Copenhagen Treaty) is NOT justified.
     
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    so mickel , is this going to be the hottest Nov on record for Sth Aust?
    what about this summer? - is it gonna be another disaster for the people and wildlife of Victoria?

    You seem pretty sure you know it's all gonna be ok - "settle down people! - no need to do anything! - just go home and turn the aircons up! - relax!"

    say, if you're wrong - can we send you the bill?
     
  18. Wysiwyg

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    Excellent move by the government to move swiftly on this issue and make positive changes regarding both derived and consumed energy. Homo Ignoramus numbers are small with the species to eventually die off or evolve with the positive changes; and there will be positive changes.
     
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    There is no doubt that the climate change hysterics have overplayed their hands;

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ndermines-debate/story-e6frg71x-1225797519791

    The Weekend Australian editorial.

     
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    I sense a touch of hysteria here.
     
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