Horrific child murder in Perth

[Sean K]

Hmmm, no chopping in Rwanda. I'm a nice human.

But, did the people doing the chopping choose to chop? Did they have freedom to choose not to? In the majority, no. Those that did choose not to chop, were chopped themselves. There was no choice. No freedom to act. Perhaps our crazy man in Perth was in a similar situation internally.

 

[visual]

Rwandans were caught in a frenzy,however there wouldve been people not chopping,what were they excersing?free will.The people giving refuge what were they exersising free will.

Again why did the UN not act sooner,political consideration

 

[bullmarket]

Hi Visual / kgee

Bullmmarket,
FREE WILL, this is what sets people apart from animals,
what the hell has religion or defence of christianity to do with that?
God already knew that humans are fallable so He gave us FREE WILL,and then gave us the rules to deal with those who didnt make good decisions.

As we can see not many people take into account those rules,its all about money.The excuse industry runs on it.Hence the reason he was free in the first place.Yeh already know to look up your old posts for your other opinions,

Yes I agree everyone has the choice to either follow the 10 commandments or ignore them and do their own thing according to what they perceive should be the right thing to do.

One of the 10 commandments God gave us is: 'Thou shalt not kill'

To me that means that life is sacrosanct and the taking of another human life can only be justified in cases of self defence.

Also, if you read through the 4 gospels in the New Testamant you will see that human life has a higher importance than animals.......I suppose one reason for that is because each one of us has a soul, which lives on after we move on from this world, and animals do not. That amongst other reasons, imo, is why it is ok to put down a dangerous animal but not a human being.

cheers

bullmarket

 

[Happy]

In Australia we have more than 140 religions recognised, why bull one should hold us all at ransom.

Hope that next referendum will allow us to make a mistake from time to time and execute an innocent person and feel sorry.

 

[Sean K]

Where does your soul go Bull?

I know you're going to say heaven, but where is that? Which cloud is heaven parked on? Give me a coordinate, anything. For eg, 5 degree north of the South Celestial Pole. he he.

 

[bullmarket]

hi Happy

In Australia we have more than 140 religions recognised, why bull one should hold us all at ransom.

Hope that next referendum will allow us to make a mistake from time to time and execute an innocent person and feel sorry.

I don't see why you should feel anyone is being held to ransom as everyone is 100% free to choose what they want to believe and what they think is a load of horse manure.

I have my views and beliefs and all I am doing is posting them just as those who have opposite views and beliefs to me are posting theirs....

cheers

bullmarket

 

[bullmarket]

Hi kennas

Thanks, I won the bet....I didn't think you would last with your 'agree to disagree' post earlier without asking me another question in this thread.

To answer your question - you will find plenty of descriptions of what heaven is like in the New Testament and probaly the Old as well.

Now we have 2 choices here:

either I can go look up the references or you can but since I'm not into spoon feeding I think it could be a nice little homework exercise for you tonight to go look them up .....but I'm not convinced you are genuinely interested in the first place.

Good luck

Bullmarket

 

[Bobby]

Hi bobby



I'm not convinced your assumption is true.

What verifiable data are you using to make your assumption "....most child molesters seem to have an affiliation with church groups !"

cheers

bullmarket

Hullo Bull,

I'm convinced my assumption may be true , notice when the media report a sick'o thats just been convicted of a sex crime against minors, that 9 times out of 10 there associated with a religious organisation.
Thats veritable, just research the news reports.

Bob.

 

[Sean K]

Well actually, as you know, I have read the Good Book and I can say that it does not say where heaven is at all except that it is 'The Kingdom of God'.

Suitable vague enough to deter any rational discussion.

Anyway, back to the topic!

Apparantly the crazy guy's defence lawyer is claiming that he won't get a fair trial because of that email kgee sent out. Good work!

 

[bullmarket]

ok no problem bobby

but now you're saying it may be true which implies you also accept the possibility that it isn't true

But it doesn't matter really, because if you look at my and other people's subsequent posts to your original it's of little significance whether it is true or not imo.

In the mean time I'll continue to believ it isn't true

cheers

bullmarket

I have to go now.....will try to login again later

 

[bullmarket]

Hi kennas

Well actually, as you know, I have read the Good Book and I can say that it does not say where heaven is at all except that it is 'The Kingdom of God'.

Suitable vague enough to deter any rational discussion.

Anyway, back to the topic!

Apparantly the crazy guy's defence lawyer is claiming that he won't get a fair trial because of that email kgee sent out. Good work!

You couldn't have read it too thoroughly if that is the only decription you could find but in any case it doesn't give extra-terrestial coordinates as you asked for but that doesn't prove it doesn't exist.......I lose my car keys and even mrs bullmarket sometimes when we're out shopping but that doesn't mean they don't exist the exact location of heaven is of no interest to me since I believe it exists anyway

will talk more later if you like....really have to go now :

cheers

bullmarket

 

[Sean K]

You can dodge this as much as you like Bull, the question was 'where' not what it's like. You just won't be able to give an answer. What type of belief system has the ultimate purpose in life to reach a place that you don't even know the location of? LOL.

 

[kgee]

Apparantly the crazy guy's defence lawyer is claiming that he won't get a fair trial because of that email kgee sent out. Good work!

I hope your not going to put the blame on me if this guy gets off!!

 

[TheAnalyst]

This fellow will never see daylight ever again........and he will be banished to solitary for a very long time for his own protection..........never to be released stamped on his file...

 

[Sean K]

LOL

It's all your fault kgee!!!!!!

Was good rumour but!

Still might be true you know. The government spin doctors have been in overdrive.

 

[bullmarket]

Hi kennas

You can dodge this as much as you like Bull, the question was 'where' not what it's like. You just won't be able to give an answer. What type of belief system has the ultimate purpose in life to reach a place that you don't even know the location of? LOL.

it appears to me you are again letting your frustration get the better of you because I did not dodge your question at all

in my reply:

You couldn't have read it too thoroughly if that is the only decription you could find but in any case it doesn't give extra-terrestial coordinates as you asked for but that doesn't prove it doesn't exist.......I lose my car keys and even mrs bullmarket sometimes when we're out shopping but that doesn't mean they don't exist the exact location of heaven is of no interest to me since I believe it exists anyway

I clearly state that the Bible does not give the 'coordinates' for the location of heaven.

For me personally, the location is totally irrelevant and it can be anywhere God wants it to be I believe heaven exists and that is all that matters for me....as I said earlier, most of the time I don't know the location of my car keys and a whole lot of other items but I still know they exist

It appears to me you are trying to sidetrack this thread and so if you are genuinely interested in heaven then start a new thread and I and anyone else interested can discuss it there rather than derail this thread as I don't see how the location of heaven is even remotely related to the title of this thread

But the bottom line is that no-one can physically prove heaven doesn't exist anymore than I can physically prove it does......as I said before we are all 100% free to choose to believe whatever we choose to.

cheers

bullmarket

 

[Sean K]

Nice one Bull.

Hey, I have to go out. There's this incredible bar somewhere down the road that serves free Grange and there are 17 year old virgins swinging from the ceiling. Plus, once you get in the door, you get to live forever there. Grouse!!

Unfortunately, I just don't know the address. I'm sure it's there though, I read it in a book!

 

[bullmarket]

no problem kennas

good luck and have good time

cheers

bullmarket

 

[Bobby]

Nice one Bull.

Hey, I have to go out. There's this incredible bar somewhere down the road that serves free Grange and there are 17 year old virgins swinging from the ceiling. Plus, once you get in the door, you get to live forever there. Grouse!!

Unfortunately, I just don't know the address. I'm sure it's there though, I read it in a book!

Hey kennas,
When you find the address I will take Bull with me so he can pray for the Grange !
I'll be up to outher stuff.

Bob.

 

[bullmarket]

Hey kennas,
When you find the address I will take Bull with me so he can pray for the Grange !
I'll be up to outher stuff.

Bob.

post the melway reference and we can all meet there