Has Clive Palmer gone loco?

[SirRumpole]

Julia, typical of the Fabians......they cherry pick what they want you see....never let the truth get in the way of a bit of propaganda to discredit Abbott and his Government.

You're right, he doesn't need any help on the discredit front.

 

[noco]

You're right, he doesn't need any help on the discredit front.

So what may I ask does he deserve any discredit apart from the PPL .....the PPL which I for one have been opposed.

Abbott and Hockey are trying to get our economy under control in the National interest.

The Fabian indoctrinated Green/Labor socialist left wingers are doing the level best to further wreck the economy which is not in the National interest....they are economic vandals of the highest order and that includes PUP which this thread is all about..

 

[noco]

It will only a matter of time....Palmer has met his match with the Chinese who are obviously much smarter than Palmer.

If Palmer is charged with fraud, how long will he be allowed to remain in parliament?

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-over-use-of-12m/story-fnihsrf2-1227000101623

 

[SirRumpole]

So what may I ask does he deserve any discredit apart from the PPL .....the PPL which I for one have been opposed.

How about for breaking most of his election promises ?

 

[ChrisJH]

The Fabian indoctrinated Green/Labor socialist left wingers are doing the level best to further wreck the economy which is not in the National interest....they are economic vandals of the highest order and that includes PUP which this thread is all about..

Are the PUP Fabian Indoctrinated?

 

[Craton]

How about for breaking most of his election promises ?

...and Labour, especially via Gillard, didn't?
Give me a break, both sides, no, make that ALL parties break promises, sheesh!

Totally agree with noco in that Shorten/Greens are doing all in their power to stuff this great country up. Make no mistake, I'm not a great fan of Abbott and less so of Shorten but to me TA and his mob are the best pick from the current crop of pollies. At least TA and crew are trying to fix the ill's of this nation for the long haul.

FWIW. The more I see and hear the more I'm liking TA's mob over Shortens' dishevelled bunch coupled with Green cohorts and don't get me started on the minorities like PUP, that only appear to have self and not national interest at heart.

 

[noco]

Are the PUP Fabian Indoctrinated?

No.....I included them as economic vandals......If you read my post again you will understand that I did not make reference to PUP as indoctrinated with Fabianism.

 

[noco]

How about for breaking most of his election promises ?

Abbott promised to stop the boats...tick tick.

Abbott promised to scrap the Carbon Dioxide tax....tick tick.

Two thirds there.

Abbott promised to bring the debt and deficit left by the last rotten government under control but is being hampered by that same rotten past government in the senate who are intent on continuing with their wrecking ball which is not in the National interest.

The Fabians have even broken their own promise to cut spending by some $6 billion which Hockey included in his budget.....Why did Labor break that promise?......Labor promised to scarp the carbon tax in September 2013 that Gillard promised would never happen under the Government I lead.

So Rumpy, please do not carry on like a pork chop at Jewish picnic about broken promises...

 

[SirRumpole]

...and Labour, especially via Gillard, didn't?

And they got thrown out for it.

The same should happen with the current lot.

But politics as a whole in this country leaves a lot to be desired. One lying crowd replaces another lying crowd. Not much hope for the voters unless we show them that lying is unacceptable.

 

[noco]

And they got thrown out for it.

The same should happen with the current lot.

But politics as a whole in this country leaves a lot to be desired. One lying crowd replaces another lying crowd. Not much hope for the voters unless we show them that lying is unacceptable.

Rumpy, what have they lied about?

Age pensions will still increase every September and March...no cuts to the pension.

8% a year increase in Health

8% increase in Education.

9 months into their term....what do you expect......give them 18 months and you are bound to see a difference to the previous lot.

 

[SirRumpole]

Rumpy, what have they lied about?

Age pensions will still increase every September and March...no cuts to the pension.

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They rise by less than they would have on previous arrangements, so that is a cut.

 

[noco]

They rise by less than they would have on previous arrangements, so that is a cut.

The adjustment to the increase in pensions is an easier way just as Jenny Macklin found in the adjustments to child welfare of some family benefits....I am not sure what the system is but I will attempt to find out...in the meantime, call comrade Macklin and she should be able to explain it better.

 

[Bintang]

And they got thrown out for it.

The same should happen with the current lot.

But politics as a whole in this country leaves a lot to be desired. One lying crowd replaces another lying crowd. Not much hope for the voters unless we show them that lying is unacceptable.

And how exactly do we the voters show to them that lying is unacceptable?

Short of a revolution the only thing we can do is vote them out of office ...... to be replaced by yet another lying crowd and the merry-go-round will never stop.

So in reality there is zero hope for voters.

Oh I forgot,. we could of course expose them for what they are on, say, ABC television. Now wouldn't that be useful!

 

[SirRumpole]

And how exactly do we the voters show to them that lying is unacceptable?

Short of a revolution the only thing we can do is vote them out of office ...... to be replaced by yet another lying crowd and the merry-go-round will never stop.

So in reality there is zero hope for voters.

Oh I forgot,. we could of course expose them for what they are on, say, ABC television. Now wouldn't that be useful!

No, there is not zero hope. If they get thrown out often enough for lying then maybe they won't do it any more.

 

[noco]

And how exactly do we the voters show to them that lying is unacceptable?

Short of a revolution the only thing we can do is vote them out of office ...... to be replaced by yet another lying crowd and the merry-go-round will never stop.

So in reality there is zero hope for voters.

Oh I forgot,. we could of course expose them for what they are on, say, ABC television. Now wouldn't that be useful!

It is called democracy......you vote for the lesser of two evils.

Voters will always favor the party who fills their pockets with money....money that has been borrowed and now must be paid back....remember those $900 cheques that Rudd gave out.....he fooled everybody......he did not tell you it was a loan and now you have to pay it back one way or another.

As I keep saying.....Socialism is a wonderful thing until they run out of other people's money.

But these post are a bit off beat from the thread....HAS CLIVE PALMER GONE LOCO.

 

[Bintang]

As I keep saying.....Socialism is a wonderful thing until they run out of other people's money.

But these post are a bit off beat from the thread....HAS CLIVE PALMER GONE LOCO.

Maybe not completely off beat considering that questions remain about whose money big Clive has been spending to get PUP votes. Very likely also other people's money (chinese perhaps) rather than his own and when it runs out I guess this thread can be closed.

 

[drsmith]

No bullying in the house uncle Clive, please.

Billionaire politician Clive Palmer has called for the clerk of the Senate to resign unless she is able to maintain impartiality, following a staff email she wrote implying Mr Palmer was a bully.

A leaked internal email sent to Senate staff on Thursday, and obtained by Fairfax Media, reveals clerk of the Senate Rosemary Laing warned staff not to tolerate ''unacceptable behaviour'' and made reference to the ''conduct of a member of the House of Representatives''.

While the email does not directly name the MP, it was widely reported two weeks ago that there was an altercation between Dr Laing and Mr Palmer, the member for Fairfax, over amendments to the carbon tax repeal bill.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...-rosemary-laing-to-resign-20140724-3cigh.html

 

[Julia]

Nick Xenophon at the time called out Palmer for what he is: a coward and a bully. He further said that Dr Laing is a well respected person with considerable expertise who tried in vain to explain to Palmer that his demands were not constitutional.

 

[Craton]

And they got thrown out for it.

The same should happen with the current lot.

But politics as a whole in this country leaves a lot to be desired. One lying crowd replaces another lying crowd. Not much hope for the voters unless we show them that lying is unacceptable.

I'd say that they, Labor, got thrown out because of the faceless caucus twice back stabbing of Mr Rudd (didn't Hawke get stitched up too?), botched schemes that cost lives and being reckless with the taxpayer's dollar and less so for the lies you acknowledge. Although the "no carbon tax" Gillard fib was a clanger.

Funny how Clive is living up to the standard isn't he?
Anyhow, lies or no lies, the TA crew always seems to be the party that puts Oz in a great position only to have Labor ride on the coat tails and stuff it all up again.
Now we've got a Senate hell bent on doing even more harm, or so it appears that way no thanks to Clive and his PUP.
Clive has definitely gone loco to think we can't see through the smoke and mirrors that big money can create/buy but in politics no amount of money can hide a lie.

 

[burglar]

... And just btw, Christopher Pyne's accent is typical of South Australia, hardly a reflection of his tertiary education.

Is this the man you compare to all South Australians?

can't stand this pr!ck... Pain in the goddamn ar$e - worse than Abbott.

http://www.messandnoise.com/discussions/3654105


Perhaps it was a typo, ... perhaps you meant "atypical" of South Australia.