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Gold Price - Where is it heading?


This is probably more a piece on the French economy rather than gold, but there is a couple of paragraphs at the bottom that relate to this thread.

A French bond crisis could unfold much more rapidly than the Greek crisis in 2011, because the amounts involved are larger, French banks are more exposed, and the bond crisis would immediately spread to Japan and the United Kingdom.

In such a context, safe-haven assets – physical gold and silver – regain their full significance. They do not depend on the solvency of a state or the soundness of a banking system, and offer a tangible bulwark against an environment where liquidity can disappear in a matter of hours.

Gold priced in euros is currently trading in a pivotal zone. Since the beginning of 2025, the yellow metal has been consolidating in a bullish flag pattern, which is classic in a strong uptrend.
 
France has fallen, it has been fully invaded, natives do not control the polls anymore and de facto is back to a third world country.
Last week the TGV, this french invention first deployed high speed trains between Paris and Lyon were stopped: the copper cables are robbed,organised crime control all suburbs and whole cities.
Economy is becoming a third world one with informal underground economy a key part: drug, stolen goods , prostitution and migration rings.
no rule of law exists
corruption is rife, and democratic system quite biased/corrupt
An economic collapse becoming public will not affect gold price imho, but it may lower the euro, a fabricated artificial meaningless fiat....
 
France has fallen, it has been fully invaded, natives do not control the polls anymore and de facto is back to a third world country.
Last week the TGV, this french invention first deployed high speed trains between Paris and Lyon were stopped: the copper cables are robbed,organised crime control all suburbs and whole cities.
Economy is becoming a third world one with informal underground economy a key part: drug, stolen goods , prostitution and migration rings.
no rule of law exists
corruption is rife, and democratic system quite biased/corrupt
An economic collapse becoming public will not affect gold price imho, but it may lower the euro, a fabricated artificial meaningless fiat....
Yea, but apart from those, everything is fine.
Mick
 
Thanks Ducati ….

What a great presentation - discussion/debate. Long but excellent.

Very interesting with the different points of view.

The one blunder I have made to date is selling my gold stocks too early.

However, physical gold is the major topic here.

I have some but probably not enough but will jump in again at some stage later but not now!

3700 was the figure one of the speakers threw out there before a correction in gold (30-40% from memory). Charts will tell me when to buy again.

No one knows the future but certain cycles can play out accordingly.

Gold, imo will not be insulated in the crash. Nothing will be …. yes there are always some stocks that will prove me wrong but they will be in the minority & very difficult to find.

The GFC proved that!

When the markets collapse, very few stocks withstand the challenges, the markets will be in sell-off mode. 95% or more will fall ….

Interesting about the DXY, in my humble opinion this index has been sliding and will continue to do so. Currently around 97-98 cents but well down from the $1.10 earlier this year. I believe it will continue to decline, my opinion …

I mentioned in the 18.6 year cycle thread the widening of the yield, which was also mentioned a few times in this discussion/debate.

The speakers were excellent, they had their own points of view but produced clear, concise explanations of their views + explanations ….

I am biding time buying more stocks now before this market reaches its climax.

In fact my portfolio is now at its peak & all of my stocks are in very positive territory, I have sold some for 100-250% profit, still holding a few over 100% in the resource sector, also one in the REIT.

The sector should run well over the rest of this year into the early part of 2026.

Interesting that one of the speakers mentioned maybe 6 months away before the bubble collapses?

No one can actually be precise with timing but April 2026 in my view is the time to watch things very closely.

More so than anytime before, it’s now time to be very cautious even though some sectors/stocks have more time to run.

The end is now within our sights.

Getting your finances in order should be a priority.

I am gradually selling down. I still hold 18 stocks but I’m pushing the button now to take profits determined by my own TA analysis.

We are in the mania/bubble phase and it’s only a matter of time before things go belly up.
 
Thanks Ducati ….

What a great presentation - discussion/debate. Long but excellent.

Very interesting with the different points of view.

The one blunder I have made to date is selling my gold stocks too early.

However, physical gold is the major topic here.

I have some but probably not enough but will jump in again at some stage later but not now!

3700 was the figure one of the speakers threw out there before a correction in gold (30-40% from memory). Charts will tell me when to buy again.

No one knows the future but certain cycles can play out accordingly.

Gold, imo will not be insulated in the crash. Nothing will be …. yes there are always some stocks that will prove me wrong but they will be in the minority & very difficult to find.

The GFC proved that!

When the markets collapse, very few stocks withstand the challenges, the markets will be in sell-off mode. 95% or more will fall ….

Interesting about the DXY, in my humble opinion this index has been sliding and will continue to do so. Currently around 97-98 cents but well down from the $1.10 earlier this year. I believe it will continue to decline, my opinion …

I mentioned in the 18.6 year cycle thread the widening of the yield, which was also mentioned a few times in this discussion/debate.

The speakers were excellent, they had their own points of view but produced clear, concise explanations of their views + explanations ….

I am biding time buying more stocks now before this market reaches its climax.

In fact my portfolio is now at its peak & all of my stocks are in very positive territory, I have sold some for 100-250% profit, still holding a few over 100% in the resource sector, also one in the REIT.

The sector should run well over the rest of this year into the early part of 2026.

Interesting that one of the speakers mentioned maybe 6 months away before the bubble collapses?

No one can actually be precise with timing but April 2026 in my view is the time to watch things very closely.

More so than anytime before, it’s now time to be very cautious even though some sectors/stocks have more time to run.

The end is now within our sights.

Getting your finances in order should be a priority.

I am gradually selling down. I still hold 18 stocks but I’m pushing the button now to take profits determined by my own TA analysis.

We are in the mania/bubble phase and it’s only a matter of time before things go belly up.
There's a big difference between now and the GFC times though, central banks all over the world have poured money into gold.

It's a bit like the housing market; if the worst happens, they're only going to let gold drop so far.
 
Good to see some responses.

1. One of the topics for discussion is how can long end rates move lower?

Very easily. The Fed implements Yield Curve Control. They buy every bond out there with newly created fiat dollars for a fixed yield of say 2.5%. This is exactly what happened post WWII. The inflation will of course be very high.


2. Could the USD super-spike?

Yes it could. Eurodollars are +/- $30 Trillion. World debt is in excess of $300 Trillion. The derivatives however exceed $1 Quadrillion, which are largely contracted in dollars. You have a default in the derivatives market, that becomes systemic, you could very easily have a USD super-spike.

The reason should be obvious. When supply of dollars is below (potential) demand for dollars and that demand suddenly jumps, the dollar will spike.

3. On gold losing 40% or some significant % in a liquidity crisis.


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So of course it's possible.


Some links on the German hyper-inflation:



So the way around this issue if you want to trade the event, if it happens is:

1. 89% of your gold held as physical;
2. 10% of your gold held as an ETF, PHYS;
3. 1% held as a PUT Option long dated LEAP on GLD


If gold falls 40% or whatever, your PUT Option gains value, sell for cash buy more PHYS. PHYS is the Sprott ETF and is convertible into gold. GLD is the best known gold ETF but is only convertible into cash. PHYS has no Options.

Of course you can play around with the % to suit yourself.

Wash, rinse, repeat.


jog on
duc
 
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So a 17 June 2027 Put at $200 will cost you $1.00 or $100 risk.
If gold were to retrace in a liquidity sell-off and come close, you are looking at $19,800 profit.

Meanwhile Buy

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Sprott PHYS for $2600 per 100 shares and you are hedged up to 500 shares against a 40% decline for a cost of $100.


Just to compare:

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Your actual loss in PHYS would be $10/share or $5000 on a 500 share position. So at $200 GLD you are actually showing a $14,800 profit, with your losses in PHYS fully hedged.

LOL.

What's not to love?


jog on
duc
 
This is a pretty strong break. Let's see what the Poms do on the open.

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Thanks for those charts @Sean K

Should it go to plan technically it may go to or just past $3500 and then retrace to $3400 before heading on past $4000. My target would be $4300-4400. If it goes it will have the built up momentum of the last 5 months spent in consolidation.

This will get us in $AUD to $6500-6700 or in PMGOLD terms $65-67 per share or thereabouts. If PMGOLD gets to the mid $60's I won't be arguing about thereabouts.

gg
 

Gold just made history, and it’s doing so in the most bullish way possible.

After months of one of the tightest volatility squeezes in years, the coil in

Gold futures is finally snapping higher, unleashing a brand-new leg in the secular bull market.

At the same time, the animal spirits are alive and well in the equities. Miners relative to the underlying commodity are hitting fresh multi-year highs.

That’s the type of leadership we expect to see when a powerful uptrend is getting underway.

Moreover, Gold itself just logged eight consecutive monthly gains for the first time ever (our data goes back to 1968).

Not in the 1970s...

Not in the 2000s...

Never.

This is uncharted territory, underscoring the unprecedented global demand for shiny rocks.

Here's the new high score for Gold:
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Going back to 1968, Gold has never before closed higher for eight consecutive months, until now.

This streak is unprecedented, and it’s not happening in a vacuum - it’s the result of extraordinary global demand.

From central banks adding to their reserves, to investors hedging against inflation and currency debasement, the appetite for Gold is unlike anything we’ve ever seen.

When markets are setting records that have stood for decades, the message is simple. The trend is strong, and there’s more to come.



jog on
duc
 
The chart says it all. There will be some pullbacks on the way forward but mid $4000's is now a clear possibility. Sometimes one just has to be patient with gold.

When gold went from $2000 to $2500 it took a 25% gain in price. From here to $4400 is a similar effort, 25%. But let us reach $4000 first ! Congratulations to all on the "Gold heading" thread.

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gg
 
I took a bit of money off the table this morning.
Things have been running hard, and I think we need a breather.
Sold some STN, reached another 52 week high and had become the second largest holding in the portfolio.
Sold half my RMS, seems to have also run hard, and got some sells in for TRE and AUC both of which are up over 40% since may latest buy in them.
Looking to increase holdings in some international shares, like Skeena and Solgold and Anglo Ashanti.
Mick
 
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