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Food scarcity

Discussion in 'Business, Investment and Economics' started by fergee, Feb 9, 2020.

  1. fergee

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    Thais can eat though. Never seen anything like it.
     
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    Don't they still eat dog?
    I know must Thais won't.
     
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    These figures are not right.
     
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    Do not destroy a feel good idea with figures.what next repeat after me
    -Eating meat is bad
    -Co2 is evil and cooking the planet
    -I drive an EV so produce less co2 than you ugly ICE destroyers and i am green
    And you can usually add
    white middle age heterosexual are evil, only the babies are cute in picture
    Ranch land here, in the US are of great effiiency in term of food production, better than the palm oil farms of ex Borneo or the soy beans of ex Amazonia, and no you can't grow wheat or corn there
    But you can always tweak your numbers and fit the dream:
    Feed premium grain to off land beef in feedlots and yes, it is abysmal.
    But that is not the real world.
    Eat good food,and not processed ****.
    The later including fake meat...
     
  6. Value Collector

    Value Collector Have courage, and be kind.

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    Are you saying that because you have evidence to the contrary, or just because you are assuming that it’s not right?
     
  7. moXJO

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    This isn't the original of why I thought it was wrong I had a previous page where a farmer with decades of experience had broken down the veg vs meat debate.

    But to debunk cowspiracy this link is decent enough.
     
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    There are four regions in Thailand, different languages, cultures, races. The Thai people (in the central region including Bangkok) don't eat dog, and I believe in the south they won't either. I'm not sure about the north. In the east they won't openly admit to it with people they're not close to, but most will eat it. If memory serves me it was only about 2 or 3 years ago that Thailand banned dog meat farms. It still goes in but now that it's illegal they're not so open about it.

    Not sure who 'they' was referring to in your post. Vietnamese and Chinese are most well known for eating dogs. Dog is a common food in Vietnam (in the north where they're rather xenophobic and racist including to southern Vietnamese they sometimes refuse to sell it to non locals, but they have boiled dogs openly on display), in northern Laos I've seen it openly sold at markets, but in the capital of Laos it's rare and when a restaurants is open about it the western expat community gets angry and insists on demanding the locals change their culture, and when I've pointed out that they're the foreigners and shouldn't be shoving western culture down Asians' throats especially while eating pigs, they are also furious at me.

    I haven't been to China where they supposedly boil dogs alive, but if that story is true it's pretty messed up and I actually would think it crosses the line requiring foreigners to say something.
     
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    "On average" is the key line here. Just because most forms of meat production are environmentally worse than most plant-based food production doesn't mean that the forms of meat production which are less environmentally destructive are also more destructive. The focus, if anything, should be selecting food production which is as efficient as possible, rather than lumping everything into two categories, taking the average of each, and then dumping one entire category. That lunacy is the vegan environmental argument!
     
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    International shipping is down drastically, supply chains are failing and food is sitting at ports worldwide waiting for customs clearance. To make matters worse some places in the world are seeing the hoarding of food and other necessities.

    Even though there is an abundance of food in the world our interdependence on other countries through specialisation, trade and globalisation is now proving to be very fragile system indeed.
     
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    The shipping (or lack of) is a real concern. Something I am concerned about.
     
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    NZ and Aussie both have more than enough capacity to independently cover their respected populations calorific needs.

    But the lack of shipping export wise will make a big dent in their economies short to medium term GDP and potentially cause some over leveraged farmers to go under.

    The up side is food may get cheaper as the international market can't be tapped so the domestic market will be flooded with cheaper produce right at a time they may be having their budgets stretched.
     
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    I'm waiting for your post on bespoke gin distilling.
     
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    Anyone for crayfish?
     
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    Last time i check i could only buy Canadian lobsters..
    The Aussie one was too expensive, the permit lease alone was at 65 or 80 $ a kg, and then the fisherman has to add his costs fuel boat etc then profit before it reaches the middle man.i am not a chinese millionaire...
     
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    Funny you should mention that @tinhat I have been teaching some local boys over here in Japan how to brew their own beer.
     
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    Gin!!!
    Do you wanna be a permabear or something.
     
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