Have courage, and be kind.
- 13 January 2014
With 3000 people dying in Australia due to air pollution each year, costing $24 Billion. I can see that eventually it would be considered immoral.
What about all the people that die from pollution from coal fired power stations ? Not to mention mining accidents, black lung disease etc.
The 5-minute charging allows flow-through charging stations where EV drivers wait just a few minutes to ‘fill up’ just as they would with regular petrol stations. In addition, with such short charging times, smaller batteries can be used in some EVs, making them more affordable.
No. Renewables are the way things are going with the only question being how to get there.So Smurf are you advocating a massive new investment in coal power stations to feed electric vehicles ?
So pollution from cars kills 3,000 Australians annually?
So pollution from cars kills 3,000 Australians annually? And costs $24Bill? Forgive me if I'm sceptical.
Let's have a gradual, fair and sensible transition. I wouldn't agree for example, with putting aged or disability pensioners out of their 1998 petrol engine Corollas, and making them buy a hybrid!
Why not Bas, although the self-driving thing might initially be a bit scarey, especially behind a B-Double on the Hwy!Who's putting up such a proposal ? Nix....I will propose an interesting alternative for your aged or disability pensioners however. Why not develop a fleet of self driving electric cars available for, initially, aged/disability pensioners ? These people would appreciate having access to transport at a cost that would compare very favourably to the registration, insurance, repairs and petrol costs of a 20 year old car.
It takes about 20 years to turn over most of the fleet in Australia.Who's putting up such a proposal ? Nix.
The need is to move as quickly as possible to all new vehicles being EV powered. In theory over the next 20 years most petrol powered vehicles will be retired.
If one wanted to hasten that process then there could be cash payments made to trade in petrol vehicles for electric powered cars.
It takes about 20 years to turn over most of the fleet in Australia.
Sure there are still a few 40 year old cars around but looking at past experience (eg the leaded petrol phase out) it took about 20 years to go from virtually 100% of cars using it (very few diesels around back then) to a point where it was no longer viable to keep selling Super petrol due to lack of volume.
So if all new cars were EV's starting in 2020 then it will be about 2040 when it becomes hard to obtain petrol since pretty much nobody wants it. In the meantime there would be a roughly linear decline in consumption.
As for "cash for clunkers" schemes I'm not a fan of them personally. As a way to get unsafe vehicles or those which are emitting a lot of non-CO2 pollutants off the road they might have some merit. But if CO2 is the concern then once you add it all up they're a dud at least until we get to the point where the electricity used to charge an EV is predominantly renewable.
In the Australian context there's no realistic chance that Qld, NSW or Vic (where the bulk of the population lives) is going to have predominantly renewable electricity anytime soon so the value of a "cash for clunkers" scheme is somewhat limited versus other ways of spending the same money (eg increasing the proportion of renewable energy in the grid).
Tesla already rolled out super chargers between Brisbane and Adelaide. and more are coming rapidly. So road trips are not a problem, especially considering you can charge at your destination.
You can drive pretty much anywhere across the USA using the super charger network.
this guy drove Brisbane to Melbourne in his Tesla showing all the superchargers, and the more cars that sell the more charging locations will be built.
Our research suggests governments need to ensure that recharging stations work for motorists, rather than just for the network providers. Recharge points should have standardised fittings, easy payment options such as credit and debit card facilities, and prompt maintenance — all features of existing fuel stations.
Imagine if you could only fill up with petrol by pre-registering with a network, such as Caltex or Shell, and making sure you had paid in advance before taking a long trip. It sounds ridiculous, but that is the situation electric motorists face in some places.
Britain has multiple subscriber-only recharging networks, which frequently have chargers that are out of order.
Look, if electric cars/hybrids become approachable on price and convenience, it makes sense, especially within the metro cities.
But there'd have to be lots of re-charging stations, e.g. how would an electric car go on an Adelaide -Alice Springs - Darwin road trip? Or across the Nullarbor to/from Perth?
Not that I was looking that hard but I didn't see one charging station advertised. Interestingly the only place I saw a charging station was a Telsa charging station at a random winery in Rutherglen which is a small town.