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Discussion in 'Beginner's Lounge' started by Skate, Dec 17, 2018.

  1. Ann

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    ...and that place would be Skate? (Damn this is going to be fun! :happy:)
     
  2. luutzu

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    Employers who does what you describe.. anyone who set out to build a business, serve their customers, create value... make enough to pay their workers a fair wage... earn themselves a profit... Sure. That's not greed at all.

    But those people do not measure their wealth as a reflection of who they are. They do not consider cash as a scorecard. It's just money and they deserve it.

    If they pay their workers a decent wage; bring value to customers... the profit earned fairly... Sure, have a nice car, a big house, holidays and good school for the kids etc.

    Not all business people are as you described though.

    I just read yesterday how some company in, I think, Melbourne just shuttered its factory. Leaving hundreds of their employees without pay for this week's work; without their sick leaves, superannuation... All this now as the management systematically shifted the company's assets into a different shell company throughout the year.

    That's greed.

    People who see fair play, value creation wouldn't do that kind of stuff. They can try to make money, lots of it. BUt if it doesn't work out, they fall with it. Not screw others who worked for them.

    People who see money as a measure of their worth... they'd do stuff like that because those with the most money are obviously the better people.
     
  3. Skate

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    @Ann I can't wait any longer to say I'm so sorry

    Explanation
    1. That post is not a reflection of who I am
    2. It was a quick & dirty example to evoke an emotion that's ingrained in all women from birth

    @Ann you said: "Rage happens when one is in a state of defense. I have never felt a need to defend my position"

    Respect
    Defending from a women's perspective is another.

    Appreciation
    I really appreciated your post, the time & effort that went into its construction didn't go unnoticed.

    @Ann you always prosecute your case from a strong position especially when your beliefs are challenged.

    So Sorry
    I'm so sorry (I wanted to repeat it once again) - I'm grovelling & it's coming from someone who is an expert in the field

    Skate
     
  4. Wyatt

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    So Skate tell us more about your trading system, I'm interested.

    Throw us a bit of meat, as in some backtests, trade lists or something else to assist this thread. Did you code it yourself or did you get your concepts coded up?

    And tell us more about your ability to follow your system without question, this point seems to be critical.
     
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  5. Skate

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    @Ann I expected CAPITALS - I've taken the liberty to bold your question to me for the required affect..

    Thanks for the reply
    I need your reply to demonstrate to other how 5 little words can invoke an emotion.

    I'm so sorry to use you to demonstrate this point.

    Skate.
     
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  6. barney

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    Don't fall for it @Ann ……. Skate is working an angle to enrage you:p …..

    PS Anne didn't bite very hard Skate …. you may have to work harder than normal here:D
     
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  7. Skate

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    @Wyatt what a quality question & I would be more than happy to give you an answer from my perspective.

    Quality questions deserve a measured answer - I'll write one up rather than you give you bunch of throwaway lines if that's okay with you.

    But if you would prefer I'll shoot from the hip (its up to you)

    @Wyatt trading & life in general is about making choices - I have given you one.

    Skate.
     
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  8. Wyatt

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    Maybe you've got your hands full atm, please take your time
     
  9. Skate

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    @barney I keep mental score cards & if @Ann or yourself knew what I'm doing I'd lose.

    Hint
    I'm not in a losing position - the game hasn't even started (I will admit, I'm smiling at the moment)

    ASF is not the place for useless banter - I'm not going to play with people in here.

    Skate.
     
  10. Skate

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    @Wyatt a detailed answer it will be - you have made a good decision (IMHO)

    Long post bore people so I'll take my time to address each of your question succinctly as possible

    Skate.
     
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  11. barney

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    :D … The banter, whether it be determined as useless or otherwise, is enjoyable for all.

    I'm out for the arv but will drop in again later to adjudicate said banter:p Cheers.
     
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  12. Ann

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    Bugger, I was hoping for a bit of fun and stimulation here....all I got was....

    Now it sounds more like you are looking for a Dominatrix in a black leather corsette to play with Skate! Not my thing sorry! :p
     
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  13. Skate

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    @tech/a women strive for equality every day - men shouldn't allow women to have equality they deserve better.

    I gave @Ann an example - I fumblingly expressed that a "woman didn't know their place"

    @Ann perceived I was putting her down & putting all women down in general - I was lifting her up, I was lifting all women up & I was deeply upset & hurt @Ann got that impression from me.

    I was saddened & my feeling were deeply hurt by @Ann's response.

    I was so deeply remorseful that @Ann interpreted my comments other than intended so I was forced to say sorry more than once.

    Men holding outdated views reflect poorly on us as a society.

    Skate
     
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  14. Skate

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    @Ann I'm sorry you jumped to the wrong conclusion with regards to my original post.

    I've explained to @tech/a that you were wrong to form your opinion so quickly & apparently @tech/a jump to the same conclusion as you as reflected in his post.

    Let me say sorry once again - I'm so sorry you jumped to the wrong conclusion & I forgive you.

    The discussion has now ended on this topic.

    Skate.
     
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    Oh dear, going down PC road again.

    Ann sounds like a good egg who would enjoy an argument not a raging feminist who wants an apology from a man for opening a door for a woman.

    Feminism has men running down the humble road far too much. If women want "equality" then sometimes they need to take the rough with the smooth, and I emphasise I'm talking verbally only not about violence of any sort.

    Anyway if this comment is too controversial for this forum, Joe has my permission to delete it at any time.
     
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  16. Skate

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    @SirRumpole I value your opinion & I value the opinions others. Its not the point whether I agree or disagree with them but it does give me an insight to what others believe.

    Skate.
     
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    What makes you think @Ann perceived you to be putting her and all women down in general? Her response didn't indicate that to me.
     
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  18. Skate

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    @willy1111 forget the words @Ann used but concentrate on context.

    @willy1111 you said "Her response didn't indicate that to me" well that's nice (reference to Mrs Browns Boys)

    I trust you are taking an interest in my posts & enjoying the thread.

    I don't want to have to repeat myself - I've posted the formula for perception its a few posts back. (you need to read it)

    Whether your right or wrong isn't important - whats more important is that this thread gives you the ability to express your views without being ridiculed or challenged.

    Thank you @willy1111 for expressing yours.

    Skate.
     
  19. Skate

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    So not to exhaust readers - I'll post in bursts..

    @Wyatt you wanted to know more about my trading system

    My trading system

    My personal trend trading strategy trades the top 500 companies, the All Ordinaries on the ASX markets, I only trade with the trend and if the Index filter turns on I trade and if the index filter turns off I don’t trade.

    The Index Filter is a safety device that keeps me in and out of the market at just the right time.

    When the market is not trending in an upward direction the filter turns off and my strategy won’t generate buys signals, thus protecting my capital.

    I only trade when the (ASX) the ‘All Ordinaries’ is buoyant.

    A single line of code generates my buy and sell signals and this is done without any emotional involvement.

    The index filter also alters our trailing stoploss settings, our stoploss settings are more aggressive (very aggressive) when the index filter is on and our stoploss shortens considerably when the index filter turns off.

    The index filter is a simple moving average over a set time frame.

    Once the trailing stoploss has been hit a sell is generated and it is actioned without hesitation.

    The mathematical advantage of any profitable system is driven by riding the winners as long as you can and cutting the losers quickly. This has been quoted many times before and its worth remembering

    Skate
     
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  20. Skate

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    @Wyatt you wanted a bit of meat ?

    You said: "
    Throw us a bit of meat, as in some backtests"

    I’m not sure what you are after with that comment so I’ll vaguely answer in a 2 part theme that may help others save some money

    Theme 1
    Advice that may help

    This is the best piece of advice I can give you

    Repeating
    Please don’t gloss over this piece of advice but take time to unpack it – this is so important it’s a life skill well adaptable to trading & it will be in your best interest to remember it:

    "Don’t react, respond. Responding gives you time to think"

    Scammers
    * Don’t fall for scam artists.
    * Scammers will suck you in to pay thousands of Dollars for courses about some new secret information that have been publicly available for years.
    *There isn't anything new under the sun and there isn't any special secret out there that I’m aware of
    *Almost everything is publicly known and information is constantly being sold as new information its just becomes repetitive.
    *As a general comment - there isn't anything new under the sun out there.

    Read my post on being a wimp - you will learn a lot from that post alone.

    Skate.
     
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