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Chaos in Australian Education

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by dutchie, Dec 12, 2012.

  1. sptrawler

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    Let's move it back on topic.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-...ing-degree-requirements-for-some-jobs/8449236

    We have stuffed up the education system so much, they will end up resorting to aptitude tests, at least that has some degree of sensibility.
    Dropping the testing standards, then dropping the entrance standards, has to eventuate in chaos.
    In the 1970's, 5% of students went on to university, the rest left at 15 to do apprenticeships or left at 17 to become technicians, draftsmen etc.
    Now everyone gets a go at UNI, magic the clever Country because everyone has a degree, what a joke, we are now calling it academic inflation.
    Well that was obviously going to happen, let's make teaching a degree and we might as well make nursing a degree and why not surfing.lol

    It is just sad, that young people are bribed into believing that a University education ensures their future.
    Let's forget about the outcome, let's just concentrate on the through put, and the dollars.
     
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    Can you quote any ASX listed companies involved in Education pertinent to your opininion, otherwise this sounds like a wank response on a financial thread.
     
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  11. sptrawler

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    This is obviously the problem with demanding most go to uni, and then making up courses for them to do, whether the courses are appropriate or not becomes secondary.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-...alian-education-system-jobs-atlassian/9373456

    Maths isn't compulsory in year 11 and 12 in most States, maybe we should go back to the future and let kids leave at year 10 to do apprenticeships etc.
    That would be novel, there are too many people with a vested interest in keeping kids at school.
    Just another social engineering plan, gone haywire, as usual.
     
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    Proud Dad takes picture of son receiving an award from his teacher:

    prouddad.jpg
     
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    Lifted from a SMH article...
    A little worlds best practice sprinkled down under. As the private school sector dusts off it's rear guard action plan.



    DECEMBER 6 2017
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    LICENSE ARTICLE
    World renowned education expert from Finland to join UNSW
    Finland's leading education expert Pasi Sahlberg
     
  14. SirRumpole

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    In my view political correctness is a problem in many ways not just in relation to climate.
     
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    Ah Dr Donnely is a special character. His views on Climate Change come straight from "the jury is still out - do nuttin" stream. Climate Change deniers dressed up as pious twats. :mad:

    I find it unbelievable that someone purporting to be an educational leader and wanting students to "learn science" etc decides that the overwhelmingly majority of climate scientists and the evidence of what is happening to our climate is insufficient to be properly concerned.
    A 10 old kid could point out how dumbly wrong he is.

    Dr Donnelly, an education expert who has written about political correctness which he says is "destroying" Australia, said 1,000 international scientists had dissenting views about the cause and extent of climate change.

    He said there had been next to no recognition of this by academics who support the striking students.

    "It's all very well to be politically correct, but there's no rationality or reason behind it that stands up,"
     
  17. SirRumpole

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    Two separate issues.

    1. the reality of climate change
    2. whether students should be taking it on themselves to 'strike' instead of being where there should be, in school learning.

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    3. we don't pay teachers for not teaching.
     
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    Big questions here Rumpy.
    The issue of CC is existential. If we don't address it our civilisation will collapse. The time span for that process could be far closer than we realise.

    It's that reality that is driving people to say "Why the hell aren't we doing what has to be done ?" If you are teenager who gets this threat then a rational response is to demand action to save your future.

    From a teaching perspective, students facing up to the consequences of what the science they are learning tells them is invaluable. Standing up and demanding that our leaders stop fapping around and take the action that CC demands is courageous. It creates strength. It demands attention. It requires response. It creates skills and learning opportunities.

    When I excoriate Dr Donnelly for his climate denialism I'm also targeting his fellow travellers who, IMO , are also liable for their refusal to recognize the dangers we are facing by not addressing the causes of CC.

    In the near future we will face another series of challenges. How do we cope with the predictable disruption of extreme heat, extreme weather situations and uncertain water supplies ? What are our contingency plans to deal with these predictable scenarios ?
     
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