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I was too nice to mention that. Lol
I was too nice to mention that. LolIn the year 2525, if man is still alive..
Zager & Evans
I feel I can make a meaningful contribution to the general cut n thrust.I was too nice to mention that. Lol
A most welcome addition.I feel I can make a meaningful contribution to the general cut n thrust.
Well I was closeIn the year 2525, if man is still alive..
Zager & Evans
You seriously believe cgt, negative gearing and franking credits are the issues?And remove franking credits from everyone, just do it until the debt is paid and then review it.
That would be brilliant.
@sptrawler Just my humble opinion but I reckon that as Basil has done a stint as Lord mayor of Perth and has now just been recently elected into the State Parliament and bingo is the new Opposition Leader.The Liberals have absolutely no idea, as was shown and if either Angus or Andrew get the nod, they will be toast also IMO.
Whether people like it or not, the leader is the shop front, they are the ones who have to project the vision.
If they can't, then the party has picked the wrong person, for the wrong reasons IMO.
Following on from that, the person who goes for the leaders position, has to believe in what the party is projecting and be completely over the intricacies of the issues.
Liberals need to actually look in the mirror, before throwing their hats in the ring, the media will carve them up if they don't.
Bookies have the following oddsThe Liberals have absolutely no idea, as was shown and if either Angus or Andrew get the nod, they will be toast also IMO.
Whether people like it or not, the leader is the shop front, they are the ones who have to project the vision.
If they can't, then the party has picked the wrong person, for the wrong reasons IMO.
Following on from that, the person who goes for the leaders position, has to believe in what the party is projecting and be completely over the intricacies of the issues.
Liberals need to actually look in the mirror, before throwing their hats in the ring, the media will carve them up if they don't.
It's looking good for Labor in Melbourne, Bandt in real trouble.Down to the wire but Adam Bandt is still confident that he is going to win.
The Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) has begun a preference re-throw between Labor and the Greens.ABC election analyst Antony Green said there was now an opportunity for Labor to claim the seat, which Mr Bandt has held since 2010."On election night the AEC conducted a Greens-Liberal indicative preference count which proved of little use because the Liberal Party finished third," Mr Green said."Labor finishing second is a bigger threat to Mr Bandt's hold on Melbourne as Liberal preferences will flow solidly to Labor."A Greens first preference vote of only 41.4 per cent has created an opportunity for Labor's Sarah Witty to win from second place on preferences."More than a dozen Victorian voters who have previously voted Green, wrote in to the ABC's Your Say project to explain why Labor got their vote this time around — and keeping Mr Dutton out was one reason."I think Labor got my vote for a few reasons… stability and experience in a chaotic time in the world… [plus] I think the Liberal leader meant I wanted my vote to go more safely to Labor," one voter from Fitzroy North, which is in the electorate of Wills, told the ABC.But several former Greens voters also told the ABC they were unhappy with the party's direction, including a shift away from the party's core values, such as environmental issues, and a frustration with the Greens' tendency to prioritise the "idealistic" over the practical."I am sick of division, hatred and policies that aren't realistic and/or are idealistic and result in nothing … I want pragmatic policies that are fair," said one voter from Rosanna who swung to Labor from the Greens in the seat of Jagajaga in Melbourne's north-east.Despite these odds, Mr Bandt said he could still win.
Greens' Adam Bandt at risk in Melbourne, Liberal win tipped for Goldstein
The tense wait continues in a number of Victorian seats, including Melbourne and Goldstein, where counting is yet to see a clear path towards a winner.www.abc.net.au
Jeeezzz Ley as favourite? She is of the far left of the party, I can't see that working out.
Can't you see that the Libs lost because they moved too far right?Jeeezzz Ley as favourite? She is of the far left of the party, I can't see that working out.
I absolutely disagree. They lost because they pandered to the left and had no vision. There was nothing right wing about the Libs at all.Can't you see that the Libs lost because they moved too far right?
Anyway, Susan Ley is a bit of an airhead imo, but it doesn't really matter, the Libs will be irrelevant for at least 6 years.
Very poor choice of candidates, Julian Leeser seems to have some intelligence, I don't know what branch of the party he comes from.
In what sense did they pander to the Left?I absolutely disagree. They lost because they pandered to the left and had no vision. There was nothing right wing about the Libs at all.
Accordingly, I do agree they have become irrelevant. There is zero point in having two Labor parties.
Taxation, EV, net zero, no slash in NDIS or expenses..they tried to lick the boots of the average urban entitled losers who know all too well that labor will always be better at moving money from the deserving to the parasites.In what sense did they pander to the Left?
Not too much to crow about with that list.
@PZ99 "The Flag Has Been Waved"I don't think Sussan Ley has what it takes to win an election. Dan Tehan is OK but his faction virtually destroyed itself after 2022.
Whoever gets the job will probably be the sacrificial lamb anyway.. aka Brendan Nelson
The good thing about this election... the flag has waved
As Australia’s election result reminds us, News Corp no longer has the power to sway voters | Margaret Simons
The declining power of the Murdoch press is part of the wider story of the waning influence of mainstream mediawww.theguardian.com
@wayneL Perhaps the blinkered lot can though.Jeeezzz Ley as favourite? She is of the far left of the party, I can't see that working out.
The right wing people or just people with valuable work ethics/companies/farm should stop dreaming..
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