Australian Federal Election 2025

[SirRumpole]

Brilliant, we elected a Party in *Australia* based on an *American* President because Orange Man Bad?

Brilliant, just brilliant. Meanwhile in *Australia*..…....

If so, Australians are more profoundly stupid than I imagined.

I doubt it.

The Libs ran a rubbish campaign and gave people nothing to vote for.

Thats about it really.

 

[wayneL]

I doubt it.

The Libs ran a rubbish campaign and gave people nothing to vote for.

Thats about it really.

Exactly, I was being sarcastic.

Except I do not agree that the Liberals did not give Australians anything to vote for. They have vision which is nothing less than the Labor Party, apart from the kerfuffle over nuclear and other issues which amounted to minutiae.

The Liberals alienated their base constituency... again.

 

[SirRumpole]

Exactly, I was being sarcastic.

Except I do not agree that the Liberals did not give Australians anything to vote for. They have vision which is nothing less than the Labor Party, apart from the kerfuffle over nuclear and other issues which amounted to minutiae.

The Liberals alienated their base constituency... again.

The vision is pretty shortsighted these days . It just seems to be "we are better than Labor", with no evidence.

Maybe they scared people with their nuclear policy. I doubt John Howard would have done that, but he had it good with exports to China raking in the shekels and no need to deal with difficult things like climate change.

Times have changed and our leaders have to change with them.

 

[sptrawler]

Exactly, I was being sarcastic.

Except I do not agree that the Liberals did not give Australians anything to vote for. They have vision which is nothing less than the Labor Party, apart from the kerfuffle over nuclear and other issues which amounted to minutiae.

The Liberals alienated their base constituency... again.

The Liberals have absolutely no idea, as was shown and if either Angus or Andrew get the nod, they will be toast also IMO.

Whether people like it or not, the leader is the shop front, they are the ones who have to project the vision.

If they can't, then the party has picked the wrong person, for the wrong reasons IMO.

Following on from that, the person who goes for the leaders position, has to believe in what the party is projecting and be completely over the intricacies of the issues.

Liberals need to actually look in the mirror, before throwing their hats in the ring, the media will carve them up if they don't.

 

[sptrawler]

Trump was a major issue Price was shut down talking about Trump during the election not the only factor but think its in there the swing to Labor was more than just about Dutton

If Trump was an issue, Labor would have made it more of an election issue, they didn't. As simple as that.

The only reason that loony blonde headed woman wanted to make it an issue, was to have a go at an Aboriginal woman who she obviously has a problem with and if you watch the whole clip even the telecast moved away from that presenter.

It was blatantly obvious the reporter had an issue with Price, maybe the reporter is a left wing loonie who knows? Let's be honest she is there to present balanced ABC reporting and she was going feral trying to direct the narrative.

I'm a bit surprised you didn't pick it up.

If you are going to be honest, that interview technique, is exactly what you bag the Murdoch press for doing.

 

[wayneL]

The vision is pretty shortsighted these days . It just seems to be "we are better than Labor", with no evidence.

Maybe they scared people with their nuclear policy. I doubt John Howard would have done that, but he had it good with exports to China raking in the shekels and no need to deal with difficult things like climate change.

Times have changed and our leaders have to change with them.

Potential liberal voters saw that there was no "better than labor", that was the problem.... Perhaps in terms of actual Menzian liberalism a whole lot worse, what with their totally authoritarian agenda.

Re climate change... Puleeze, we've been over this a million times.

You're only salient point is that times *have changed, but with no solutions from either side apart from pork barreling and gaslighting to the detriment of younger generations.

I don't have children, but still refuse to vote for that.

 

[SirRumpole]

The Liberals have absolutely no idea, as was shown and if either Angus or Andrew get the nod, they will be toast also IMO.

Whether people like it or not, the leader is the shop front, they are the ones who have to project the vision.

If they can't, then the party has picked the wrong person, for the wrong reasons IMO.

Following on from that, the person who goes for the leaders position, has to believe in what the party is projecting and be completely over the intricacies of the issues.

Liberals need to actually look in the mirror, before throwing their hats in the ring, the media will carve them up if they don't.

Hastie has withdrawn from the race apparently.

 

[SirRumpole]

You're only salient point is that times *have changed, but with no solutions from either side apart from pork barreling and gaslighting to the detriment of younger generations.

Does that mean that you would support an end to negative gearing and CGT tax deductions for the sake of the younger generations ?

 

[wayneL]

Does that mean that you would support an end to negative gearing

I would support changes to negative gearing as applied which I have detailed previously on this forum.

and CGT tax deductions for the sake of the younger generations ?

Again I would support changes to CGT law which once again I have detailed on this forum previously.

However I do not think that this is the crux of the matter. Any changes now are too late and should have been implemented decades ago and would result in an economic mellieu now. And I have commented on this issue ever since I've been on this forum.

Younger generations are now pretty much f**ed unless there is some sort of revolution... and that probably wouldn't be to the benefit of anyone except the authoritarians.

Expect a shi7show of epic proportions before this is resolved.

 

[Dona Ferentes]

Looks like the Jacquie Lambie network may not survive.

only as a soundbite or 2. (with subtitles)

 

[sptrawler]

Hastie has withdrawn from the race apparently.

Good, he might be a nice guy and he must be hell of a good Australian to sign up for the defence force.

But I've actually talked to him in passing and there is no way, he would survive the mental torture the media would put him through IMO.

SAS or not he and his family don't deserve the grief it would bring, just watch the blonde headed lady going feral at Jacinta Price and ask yourself, would you want to put your family through that on election night.

Having a young family and being the head of a political party don't mix, as was proved with Morrison and the Hawai holiday, politics is a nasty game and adding more moving parts like kids is a recipe for disaster, the media don't take prisoners they just carve up the people they don't like.

 

[IFocus]

If Trump was an issue, Labor would have made it more of an election issue, they didn't. As simple as that.

Labor stayed focused on their game plan Liberals didn't and had to ditch Trump style efficiency drive arla Trump / Musk also shut Price down when she was repeating make Australia great again maybe you missed it.

Do a search of Trump factor in Australian election head lines word wide reported on it.

Again the swing to Labor was historic and for that to happen Liberal voters voted Labor normally that's due to risk I think people saw Dutton's Trump reference's as a massive risk.

The lose is not just about how useless Liberals or how brilliant Labor is there is far more to it IMHO and that's the total rejection of Trump style politics, policies.

 

[sptrawler]

Does that mean that you would support an end to negative gearing and CGT tax deductions for the sake of the younger generations ?

And remove franking credits from everyone, just do it until the debt is paid and then review it.
That would be brilliant.

 

[sptrawler]

Labor stayed focused on their game plan Liberals didn't and had to ditch Trump style efficiency drive arla Trump / Musk also shut Price down when she was repeating make Australia great again maybe you missed it.

Do a search of Trump factor in Australian election head lines word wide reported on it.

Again the swing to Labor was historic and for that to happen Liberal voters voted Labor normally that's due to risk I think people saw Dutton's Trump reference's as a massive risk.

The lose is not just about how useless Liberals or how brilliant Labor is there is far more to it IMHO and that's the total rejection of Trump style politics, policies.

You're waffling, maybe put the cork back in the bottle, you didn't use any punctuation in the post.

 

[farmerge]

Still there are 2 seats here in WA sitting on a knife's edge.
Fremantle once a labour stronghold looking a bit wobbly with an Independent at the forefront.
Bullwinkle Labour in front by a (rcw1's terminology) short nose.
A recount is underway.

 

[wayneL]

And remove franking credits from everyone, just do it until the debt is paid and then review it.
That would be brilliant.

Like, in "3635, if man is still alive"

 

[sptrawler]

Like, in "3635, if man is still alive"

Yes 2006 was the last time.

 

[wayneL]

Yes 2006 was the last time.

Yeah, but we be $0 -> >$1,000,000,000 in less than twenty years, with ad infinitum spending promises, ad infinitum.

 

[sptrawler]

Yeah, but we be $0 -> >$1,000,000,000 in less than twenty years, with ad infinitum spending promises, ad infinitum.

Yep and there is nothing on the horizon, to turn it around, oh well that's life.

Enjoy it while you can.

 

[Dona Ferentes]

Like, in "3635, if man is still alive"

In the year 2525, if man is still alive..

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