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What's an "affluent knob"? Is it a phallic thing?
Not a surprise to many, but good to see a person of such high profile open up....
Tim Cook Speaks Up
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-10-30/tim-cook-im-proud-to-be-gay
Not a surprise to many, but good to see a person of such high profile open up....
I must admit the notion of being "proud" as a hetrosexual never really crosses my mind, let alone broadcasting it to the world, but my brain is probably wired differently in that respect too.
I just don't understand this compulsion to discuss one's sexuality with the world. Really, who cares? It's no one's business.
I just don't understand this compulsion to discuss one's sexuality with the world. Really, who cares? It's no one's business.
Seems that since social media has come to dominate the waking hours of most of the population, it's accompanied by this obsession to share every nuance of mood, the occurrence of events as breathtaking as "just finished the shopping, heading home" right up to what one's sexual preferences are.
There was much to be said for the dignity of a bit of personal reticence and sense of privacy imo.
I don't see how someone can be "proud" of a condition they are born with. You can be proud of your achievements, but sexuality is something that people have no control over. Like others I don't want to hear the ins and outs of other people's private lives whether they be gay or straight , so whether they "fess up" or not is their concern not mine.
There is actually zero evidence that anyone is born with their sexuality. But when you state it so categorically it may sound convincing to others. Talk about slotting in an assumption and dressing it up as fact!
There is actually zero evidence that anyone is born with their sexuality. But when you state it so categorically it may sound convincing to others. Talk about slotting in an assumption and dressing it up as fact!
Fwiw, I find the thread header pretty silly.
Btw to suggest to gay people that they have any need to 'fess up' is rather insulting and patronising. Their sexual preference isn't something about which they should feel ashamed. Just their choice.
I agree in general Julia, but I think in this case he is also making a statement about some of the archaic laws in the US. For instance, as far as I understand, in his home state of Alabama, you can be legally fired for being gay and can also be legally evicted if you are a tenant. If you read the article, his coming out is more than just making a statement about his own sexuality, but is driven by the belief that because of his high profile position by doing so he can help others who may fear the repercussions they might encounter.
I don't see how someone can be "proud" of a condition they are born with.
You can be proud of your achievements, but sexuality is something that people have no control over.
Like others I don't want to hear the ins and outs of other people's private lives whether they be gay or straight , so whether they "fess up" or not is their concern not mine.
There is actually zero evidence that anyone is born with their sexuality. But when you state it so categorically it may sound convincing to others. Talk about slotting in an assumption and dressing it up as fact!
You have misinterpreted my comment (which must have been made some time ago, certainly not in this current exchange. ) What you have quoted me as saying isAgreed, and the point was well made about the title (and acknowledged by MrBurns - but I think many gay people would take offence at the idea that their sexuality is a 'choice'.
"Just their choice", referred to the choice to discuss their sexuality, not the orientation itself.Btw to suggest to gay people that they have any need to 'fess up' is rather insulting and patronising. Their sexual preference isn't something about which they should feel ashamed. Just their choice.
I don't see significant evidence of bigotry at all. For a long time now, the variants in human sexuality have been understood and accepted.Although it's fine to be private, bear in mind that as heterosexuals we're the priviliged majority, who aren't subjected to bigotry, prejudice or systematic injustices, and thus can afford to be passive/private. In that context, I think it's very important that homosexuals are open about their sexuality, as it encourages dialogue and spurs societal acceptance and progression.
Not sure why you feel the need to tell others how they should feel.Maybe you need to hear about other people being gay.
2) sexual temptation is powerful.
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