Man's inhumanity to man such as the images we are now seeing has occurred through many cultures throughout civilised history and that we can't change.https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...Ld8AWa1IKQDA&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1203&bih=749
Plenty of fair skinned blue eyed kids in there.
In no way justifying what's going on, but just highlighting that this issue is fairly wide spread.
Just have to look at the ideas in some of the militias in the USA - they'd be more upset about it being about being Muslims than about the children per se.
Man's inhumanity to man such as the images we are now seeing has occurred through many cultures throughout civilised history and that we can't change.
As for the present and future, it has no place and should simply be condemned, not compared.
I didn't observe any of the fair skinned blue eyed kids "highlighted" by syd, holding up the heads of their murderous father's beheaded victims. But I suppose another diligent Google search would turn some up.
From my perspective it's naive to ignore the fact that kids have been carefully taught to hate and to kill for generations in many cultures. The first thing I thought of when I read about that tweeted picture (I didn't see the picture till later) was Northern Ireland.This thread is about countering terrorism in Australia and the only threat at present comes from Islam. Syd's reactive response, to dredge up pictures of fair haired children holding guns, shows his biases not mine. Anyone who ignores the ISIS activity in Iraq or tries to drag in side issues purporting to show that "it's a common issue that transcends race / religion / age" is very naive.
More on metadata. It's not just that it's intrusive and expensive. It's that it won't work... according to the Minister for Communications.
http://www.zdnet.com/au/turnbull-admits-limitations-of-data-retention-proposal-7000032480/
If anyone is naive, surely it's a
PM who consistently starts consultations AFTER making announcements.
From my perspective it's naive to ignore the fact that kids have been carefully taught to hate and to kill for generations in many cultures. The first thing I thought of when I read about that tweeted picture (I didn't see the picture till later) was Northern Ireland.
I think it's also naive, and more importantly it's counter-productive, to forget that most of the Muslims in Australia are Australians by naturalisation (i.e. by choice) or by birth. You don't counter a threat by forcing more people into the group that's threatening you.
I think it's also naive, and more importantly it's counter-productive, to forget that most of the Muslims in Australia are Australians by naturalisation (i.e. by choice) or by birth. You don't counter a threat by forcing more people into the group that's threatening you..
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-28/morrison-watching-australians-fighting-in-syria/5050118Australia has 'by far largest number' of Western fighters in Syria
An expert from Melbourne University's School of International Relations says Australians make up "by far the largest" contingent of Western recruits to Syrian armed groups.
He says that while Australians are often involved in overseas conflict, the number in Syria is higher than usual.
"There have been Australians serving as foreign fighters in a number of other conflicts, like Somalia most recently," he told The Word Today.
"But they've never been the largest group of Westerners. So Syria's a little bit unusual. You have just a handful of Canadians and Americans, maybe a hundred or so British and French citizens. But Australia has by far the largest number."
More on metadata. It's not just that it's intrusive and expensive. It's that it won't work... according to the Minister for Communications.
http://www.zdnet.com/au/turnbull-admits-limitations-of-data-retention-proposal-7000032480/
If anyone is naive, surely it's a
PM who consistently starts consultations AFTER making announcements.
Are they? I don't really see what difference that makes when we have examples such as has been splashed all over the media today of such an Australian Muslim praising his 7 year old child for holding up the severed head of someone who failed to adhere to the Muslim faith.I think it's also naive, and more importantly it's counter-productive, to forget that most of the Muslims in Australia are Australians by naturalisation (i.e. by choice) or by birth.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...l&utm_campaign=editorial&net_sub_uid=17300093It is understood the children left Australia about a month after their father fled the country in December, slipping illegally out of Sydney Airport on his brother’s passport.
Ms Nettleton is understood to have flown the children to Malaysia in the company of her mother, Karen Nettleton. The family stayed with a relative of Sharrouf — believed to be his sister — in Kuala Lumpur. The family all travelled on return tickets, a ruse, it would seem, designed to ease any suspicion among authorities that Ms Nettleton was planning on taking the family to Syria.
It is understood they were in Malaysia only a few weeks.
Karen Nettleton returned to Australia, but her daughter and five children journeyed on to Syria, where she met up with her husband.
Could you perhaps offer some examples of the moderate Muslim community in Australia making clear their disgust and revulsion at this jihadist activity? I've not seen or heard any anywhere. That does not mean it doesn't exist, and I'd be pleased if you could offer some reassurance on this point.
Could you perhaps offer some examples of the moderate Muslim community in Australia making clear their disgust and revulsion at this jihadist activity? I've not seen or heard any anywhere. That does not mean it doesn't exist, and I'd be pleased if you could offer some reassurance on this point.
Are they? I don't really see what difference that makes when we have examples such as has been splashed all over the media today of such an Australian Muslim praising his 7 year old child for holding up the severed head of someone who failed to adhere to the Muslim faith.
Could you perhaps offer some examples of the moderate Muslim community in Australia making clear their disgust and revulsion at this jihadist activity? I've not seen or heard any anywhere. That does not mean it doesn't exist, and I'd be pleased if you could offer some reassurance on this point.
Lebanese Muslim Association president Samier Dandan says he is very disturbed by the image, and has distanced the Australian Muslim community from it.
"I stand very far from that concept - this is an act of a lunatic," he said.
"Even if you are saying to me he made his son lift or carry and take a picture with a decapitated head this is something reflective of something we can all agree - this is an act of a lunatic."
Well from this article.
Community leader Jamal Rifi said the photos could only be taken "by a very sick person".
"His actions are deplorable," he said. "There's a lot of anger within the community because he's doing much more damage to Islam when he's pretending to be defending Islam."
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