Craton
Mostly passive, contrarian.
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... So, can I ask what the Collective thoughts are on this proposed measure?
The one's targeted as always will seek and fund ways to circumvent any measure to detect, disrupt and detain. So, can I ask what the Collective thoughts are on this proposed measure?
hadn't crossed my mind. Perhaps we could speak in tongues.I propose that we confuse and confound them all by starting an online talk-back radio station.
I heard Abbott say this morning on the ABC that the metadata is retained anyway so it's no big deal.
Is he misinformed or is it us who are been given incorrect information? I believe he may be correct as the ISPs need to be able to trace it there is an argument over a bill.
I'd also like to add that ISPs are currently NOT storing this kind of data.
“Telstra does not routinely collect or store our customers’ telecommunications data to undertake mass surveillance on behalf of Australian national security agencies. Intrinsic to providing telecommunications services is generating data, for example the time, location and duration of telephone calls. We generate this data as part of providing a service to our customers and we store it for as long as it makes sense commercially and legally to do so. For instance, we are required to hold billing data for up to six years to meet out obligations under the Telecommunications Consumer Protection Code.”
At the outset of this study, we shared the same hypothesis as our computer science colleagues””we thought phone metadata could be very sensitive. We did not anticipate finding much evidence one way or the other, however, since the MetaPhone participant population is small and participants only provide a few months of phone activity on average.
We were wrong. We found that phone metadata is unambiguously sensitive, even in a small population and over a short time window. We were able to infer medical conditions, firearm ownership, and more, using solely phone metadata
I heard Abbott say this morning on the ABC that the metadata is retained anyway so it's no big deal.
Is he misinformed or is it us who are been given incorrect information? I believe he may be correct as the ISPs need to be able to trace it there is an argument over a bill.
On Wednesday morning, Prime Minister Tony Abbott appeared to indicate the web browser history of Australian internet users could be included in the definition of metadata that telcos would then store for two years.
‘’It’s not what you’re doing on the internet, it’s the sites you’re visiting, it’s not the content, it’s the sites [where] you’ve been,’
Hopefully Labor and the Greens will save us from the government's silliness again, although Labor previously tried to put similar legislation through, but canned it after objections from senior Liberals
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...new-internet-tax/story-fn59niix-1227013916569
Funny how the worm turns isn't it ?
Should we start a poll on what what we think the next though bubble policy release will be??
You don't think a huge amount of data is already being stored about you? Your credit card statement provides a record of where you shop, the store loyalty card if you use one, stores details about everything you buy. You'll have noticed that the big supermarkets are into much more than food, grog and petrol. They're into insurance and can easily ascertain from where and how often you buy petrol how much more or less risk you represent from an insurer's pov, ie much less if you tootle round a small regional centre v thousands of kms on open roads.So too with privacy. No amount of govt. guarantee will allay my fears that the data will be safe and secure from misuse, abuse, profiling, hacking and so much more.
Can you explain why that's not a pretty valid proposition? I don't think I'm particularly stupid or unrealistic but I would find it delusional to think the government is going to be even remotely interested in anything I do or what websites I visit etc.Now we wait for the usual "but if you're not doing anything wrong, you've got nothing to worry about" cheer squad.
Well, I'm sure I wouldn't rather be killed by a suicide bomber who just decided to make the supreme sacrifice for his god right beside me than have my phone/internet use scooped up along with that of everyone else. Much prefer to stay alive, thanks. And just because no fanatic has yet committed such an atrocity in Australia does not mean there is not such an event being planned right now.I'm personally sick of our privacy and civil liberties being curtailed for security. I can understand it to some extent but I'm willing to chance that I would rather keep this privacy and run the risk of being killed in a terrorist attack due to the government not being able to capture a webpage from 24 months earlier.
You don't think a huge amount of data is already being stored about you? Your credit card statement provides a record of where you shop, the store loyalty card if you use one, stores details about everything you buy.
Our intelligence agencies have foiled several such schemes.
Can you explain why that's not a pretty valid proposition? I don't think I'm particularly stupid or unrealistic but I would find it delusional to think the government is going to be even remotely interested in anything I do or what websites I visit etc.
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