Trump Derangement Syndrome

[luutzu]

There was a war on. People get killed in wars. Was Truman prosecuted over Hiroshima ?

If Obama personally ordered targets he must have known that they could be reviewed later. If Trump just says "do what you like boys, I'll deny all knowledge", that is just hypocrisy and psychopathy.

Truman should have been tried. Those two nukes were totally unnecessary to win the war at that stage. Just ask any objective historian, they'll tell you.

Or in the word of Gore Vidal... Truman did it "to show off". Show off to Stalin and the godless commies who's the boss now.

But those nukes, according to some (American) historian whose name I can't recall now... were simply doing what the US did on hundreds of missions over Japan before them. They just did it with 1 bomb instead of with a fleet of B52s and their fire bombs.

Yes, a hundred or so cities just like Hiroshima and Nagasaki [?] were burnt to the ground, one or two per night, before the two big ones.

We all know Imperial Japan were terrible, but come on man. They were on their knees, you don't need to destroy their plebs like that.


Back to Obama, the Nobel Peace winner...

A lot of the drone strikes are in countries the US have not declared war on. Places like Pakistan, which I thought was an ally. There's Yemen, all over Africa. I don't remember the US declaring war on any African countries, except maybe Libya when Hilary crackle about "we" come, we saw, he die.

He signed off because he was a bit stupid. Not because he want to be accountable.

Guess what happen to those who leaks info on war crimes under his watch? They get locked up for crime against the state.

But he's getting a very nice presidential centre though. No, not a presidential library, that's for poor president. It's an entire Centre, complete with gentrified neighbours and office towers. And a couple gallery devoted to his poor single-parent childhood struggling to make ends meet... and definitely a vegie patch so kids can eat healthy.

I actually don't mind the likes of Bush Jr. or Trump. They were brought up in wealth. They don't know any better, are just acting their class.

For the likes of Billy Clinton and Barry... they're way worst if you ask me.

 

[SirRumpole]

For the likes of Billy Clinton and Barry... they're way worst if you ask me.

Class traitors ?

So your a Trump voter then ?

 

[Darc Knight]

Truman should have been tried. Those two nukes were totally unnecessary to win the war at that stage. Just ask any objective historian, they'll tell you.

Or in the word of Gore Vidal... Truman did it "to show off". Show off to Stalin and the godless commies who's the boss now.

But those nukes, according to some (American) historian whose name I can't recall now... were simply doing what the US did on hundreds of missions over Japan before them. They just did it with 1 bomb instead of with a fleet of B52s and their fire bombs.

Yes, a hundred or so cities just like Hiroshima and Nagasaki [?] were burnt to the ground, one or two per night, before the two big ones.

We all know Imperial Japan were terrible, but come on man. They were on their knees, you don't need to destroy their plebs like that.


Back to Obama, the Nobel Peace winner...

A lot of the drone strikes are in countries the US have not declared war on. Places like Pakistan, which I thought was an ally. There's Yemen, all over Africa. I don't remember the US declaring war on any African countries, except maybe Libya when Hilary crackle about "we" come, we saw, he die.

He signed off because he was a bit stupid. Not because he want to be accountable.

Guess what happen to those who leaks info on war crimes under his watch? They get locked up for crime against the state.

But he's getting a very nice presidential centre though. No, not a presidential library, that's for poor president. It's an entire Centre, complete with gentrified neighbours and office towers. And a couple gallery devoted to his poor single-parent childhood struggling to make ends meet... and definitely a vegie patch so kids can eat healthy.

I actually don't mind the likes of Bush Jr. or Trump. They were brought up in wealth. They don't know any better, are just acting their class.

For the likes of Billy Clinton and Barry... they're way worst if you ask me.

The reason the Allies used the A Bomb during WW2 was because they had to invade Japan to stop them. Invading Japan was seen as being too horrific a battle, so they chose the A Bombs.

When Stalin was informed of the plan, his reaction was that he already knew what the Yanks had.

Very sad story, but if the Allies had to invade Japan, they would've faced every Japanese Man Woman and Child. Banzai and all that.

 

[moXJO]

The reason the Allies used the A Bomb during WW2 was because they had to invade Japan to stop them. Invading Japan was seen as being too horrific a battle, so they chose the A Bombs.

When Stalin was informed of the plan, his reaction was that he already knew what the Yanks had.

Very sad story, but if the Allies had to invade Japan, they would've faced every Japanese Man Woman and Child. Banzai and all that.

Russia about to invade had nothing to do with it?

 

[moXJO]

Class traitors ?

So your a Trump voter then ?

I didn't realize you instantly had to vote trump for disliking the other two.

 

[Darc Knight]

Russia about to invade had nothing to do with it?

Russia about to invade who, Japan?

No, the Siberian forces were moved to the Western front. That's what saved Russia from the Nazis.

Do you just post sheet to argue or something. It certainly looks rhat way.

 

[moXJO]

No point trying to convince Trump fan boys, but for others:

"The DSM 5 is used to diagnose a sociopath by a psychologist/psychiatrist or other licensed mental health care professional. The criteria for the proper diagnosis of a sociopath is found in the criteria for antisocial personality disorder ...
The following criteria is listed in the DSM 5 for antisocial personality disorder:

1. Persistent patterns of disregard and violation of the rights of others, present since the age of 15 and consisting of at least three of the following resulting in hurting, mistreating, and/or stealing from someone:
2. Disrespect and failure to conform to lawful behavior resulting in repeated arrests.
3. Persistent deceitfulness, using aliases, and lying to con others for personal gain.
4. Impulsive and unable to plan.
5. Easily irritated, aggressive and prone to repeated physical altercations and assaults.
6. Reckless, disregarding the safety of others and one's self.
7. Persistently irresponsible, inability to maintain consistent work behavior and/or honor financial obligations.
8. Indifferent rationalization without remorse."

https://www.betterhelp.com/advice/sociopathy/dsm-5-sociopath-diagnostic-definitions-and-symptoms/

Now, watch this, remember Trump is very litigious. You don't get dozens of people going on camera making such claims unless they knew they had proof

Forum psychology. The greatest of all in antisocial personality disorder detection.
Personally I think Bill shorten has a booger eating disorder from the he ate that sausage sandwich. Time will tell.

Personally I think if trump started more wars he might be up to Obama's standard. Or if trump bumped heads with putin like Obama did.
But Trump’s making russian friends and North Korean ones. Just look at all the investigations into his new friends.

 

[Darc Knight]

You're more like Trump than you care to admit Mo.

 

[Darc Knight]

Russia, the U.S. and Britian were allies, they had many planning meetings. Russia knew what the Yanks had planned.

The relationship between Russia and the U.S. soured after the War.

 

[moXJO]

Russia about to invade who, Japan?

No, the Siberian forces were moved to the Western front. That's what saved Russia from the Nazis.

Do you just post sheet to argue or something. It certainly looks rhat way.

Russia never invaded Manchuria and Sakhalin ?
Wait what? ?

 

[Smurf1976]

It says rather a lot that the only argument in favour of Trump involves pointing out flaws in others rather than good points with Trump.

 

[Darc Knight]

Russia never invaded Manchuria and Sakhalin ?
Wait what? ?

Russia, the U.S. and Britian were all in on the planning. They had numerous meetings. Stalin knew.
No one wanted to invade Japan, they knew the cost.

 

[moXJO]

good points with Trump.

You want to kick that one off smurf

 

[moXJO]

Russia, the U.S. and Britian were all in on the planning. They had numerous meetings. Stalin knew.
No one wanted to invade Japan, they knew the cost.

So the plans on Hokkaido were all fiction?
Tell me moreeeeeee!!!!!!!

 

[Darc Knight]

So the plans on Hokkaido were all fiction?
Tell me moreeeeeee!!!!!!!

You're trying to emulate Trump hey?
Just reading Stalin's interpretator saying that Stalin said he hoped the Yanks would use the A Bomb, in respons to Truman telling him of the plan.

 

[moXJO]

You're trying to emulate Trump hey?
Just reading Stalin's interpretator saying that Stalin said he hoped the Yanks would use the A Bomb, in respons to Truman telling him of the plan.

I like how japan was shared among friends, because you know they were all working together.

 

[moXJO]

I like how japan was shared among friends, because you know they were all working together.

Hows that russian army base in Japan going
I liked the friendly pie eating contests between east and west Germany after the war as well.

 

[Tisme]

Russia about to invade who, Japan?

No, the Siberian forces were moved to the Western front. That's what saved Russia from the Nazis.

Do you just post sheet to argue or something. It certainly looks rhat way.

The Russians declaring war on Japan two days after Hiroshima, mortified the Japs, because they thought Russia would help negotiate a truce on their behalf. The second bomb nailed the surrender.

 

[Darc Knight]

I like how japan was shared among friends, because you know they were all working together.

Still trolling are you Mo.

"Yalta, a seaside resort on Russia's Black Sea Crimean coast, was the scene of the second and last wartime conference between the 'Big Three' Allied war leaders, Winston Churchill, Franklin D Roosevelt and Joseph Stalin. It was held between 4 and 11 February 1945 and was designed to decide on the final strategy of the war against Germany and Japan and settle the post-war future of Europe."

https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/how-...nd-stalin-planned-to-end-the-second-world-war

 

[moXJO]

The bomb didn't stop the war.

Still trolling are you Mo.

"Yalta, a seaside resort on Russia's Black Sea Crimean coast, was the scene of the second and last wartime conference between the 'Big Three' Allied war leaders, Winston Churchill, Franklin D Roosevelt and Joseph Stalin. It was held between 4 and 11 February 1945 and was designed to decide on the final strategy of the war against Germany and Japan and settle the post-war future of Europe."

https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/how-...nd-stalin-planned-to-end-the-second-world-war

Um way to change the subject. Don't back away from your original comments.

It was all about land grabs in the end and the US negotiations won out before the Russians got to far in and got a share.

The bomb didn't stop the war. The Russians on the threat of a second front did.
The bomb was the saving excuse for Japan. "Did you see their awesome power despite 80% of our cities already being wiped out by conventional bombing"