Are you Gay? Time to fess up...

[SirRumpole]

But why are you scared of gays?

Fear of a pass being made ?

 

[Value Collector]

Fear of a pass being made ?

Well then Phobic is the right word, because that is certainly an irrational fear.

The reason I said that saying "happy to be homophobic" seemed like such a weird thing to say, is that I have never met anyone who's irrational fears truly bring happiness to them.

I mean irrational fear is something that you should work on to offer come, because it hinders you more than helps. there is nothing more empowering than being able to let go of an irrational fear, that is what truly makes you stronger.

Fear should be like a little alarm bell, it's your body warning you that danger might be present, But you don't let it cripple you, it should jolt you a bit so you assess the situation, take note of the actual danger (if there is any real danger), then press the snooze button on the alarm and move on.

At the parachuting school they had a saying "Knowledge dispels fear", which can be translated to Phobias equal poor knowledge.

 

[SirRumpole]

Well then Phobic is the right word, because that is certainly an irrational fear.

While the chances of a heterosexual man being attacked by one or more homosexuals are small , it has happened, so I'm not sure if the fear is entirely irrational.

Not all heterosexual men have the physiques of SAS troopers, and not all gay men are effeminate and I'm sure there have been cases of homo on hetero rape , maybe un-reported due to shame.

Maybe the proud homophobic has had such an encounter.

 

[tech/a]

Ever been to prison?

I may know people who have.

 

[notting]

To illustrate

 

[Value Collector]

so I'm not sure if the fear is entirely irrational.
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By definition, a "phobia" is an irrational fear. if its not irrational its not a phobia.

I am not saying you shouldn't ever feel fear, e.g. if two big Rottweilers are charging you, you will get a jolt of fear, that is not a Phobia of dogs, but seeing a person walking their young puppy and being crippled with fear, thats a phobia.

If you were scared of walking down Oxford st because a gay guy might wink at you, thats like being scared of the puppy.

At the parachuting school they had a saying "Knowledge dispels fear", which can be translated to Phobias equal poor knowledge

Actually a better way to put would be "Ignorance creates fear", I might copy right that, lol.

Ever been to prison?

Did you know that most sexual assaults in prison are by men that identify as being straight.

I think its another example of the negative effects of sexual repression, So if you are scared of being raped by a man, you should have a phobia of sexually repressed straight guys, and you want healthy sexual expression to be common place.

 

[Wysiwyg]

By definition, a "phobia" is an irrational fear. if its not irrational its not a phobia.

I think it goes back to around seven or eight years old when a boy twice as tall and I suppose in his upper teens forced me into a corner and tried to kiss me. I could see in his eyes he wanted something from me that wasn't normal. Minds eye has him puckering up and I yelled and swung my arms and escaped. That is my experience and I was terrified then.

 

[Value Collector]

I think it goes back to around seven or eight years old when a boy twice as tall and I suppose in his upper teens forced me into a corner and tried to kiss me. I could see in his eyes he wanted something from me that wasn't normal. Minds eye has him puckering up and I yelled and swung my arms and escaped. That is my experience and I was terrified then.

Yep, that could be what formed the base of the phobia you currently have, I think the way to move past it will be to pick up on your feelings when you have them, and then try to spend a couple of moments to self assess and decide whether the way you are feeling/acting is justified by what is actually happening thats making you feel that way.

For example, a person might have a phobia of dogs because they had been bailed up by or even bitten by a dog as a child, so even as an adult the sight or sound of any dog brings back that fear.

The first step is recognising the fear or uncomfortable feeling is actually being brought on not by the golden retriever with the stick in its mouth in front of you, but by the previous bad experience, you can start to see the golden retriever for what it is, and act in a more appropriate way and be more relaxed, and embrace the dog for what it is.

If a woman developed a phobia of straight men because she was raped, that fear is something she should work on to over come, if she wants to have a happy life, the irrational fear of all straight males isn't something she should be happy to have.

 

[SirRumpole]

If a woman developed a phobia of straight men because she was raped, that fear is something she should work on to over come, if she wants to have a happy life, the irrational fear of all straight males isn't something she should be happy to have.

On the other hand a heterosexual male can have a happy life without associating with gays .

 

[Value Collector]

On the other hand a heterosexual male can have a happy life without associating with gays .

I think a life without irrational fear is a happier one.

Sure a person who has an irrational fear of dogs can still be happy as long as they avoid dogs, but even if they do their best to avoid dogs, the underlying phobia is still there, and that creates discomfort and negative feelings, which impact on their over all happiness and wellbeing.

Getting rid of the irrational fear will improve your life, even if you think you can avoid dogs (or gays), and it might even improve the life of the dogs (or gays), that you happen to run into randomly or can't avoid.

If you have a phobia of dogs, a society that wants all dogs muzzled might appeal to you, buts its hardly fair on the dogs, and you just getting over your fear might prove better for you to.

 

[Klogg]

This entire thread is just silly... The fact that gay people should 'fess up' suggests they've done something wrong. I'm not sure how sexual preference is a crime anymore.

I think it goes back to around seven or eight years old when a boy twice as tall and I suppose in his upper teens forced me into a corner and tried to kiss me. I could see in his eyes he wanted something from me that wasn't normal.

This story made me laugh so much. What if it was a really tall, strong and perhaps not so good-looking girl who tried to kiss you? Would you still be terrified? Would it be normal then?

 

[Wysiwyg]

This story made me laugh so much. What if it was a really tall, strong and perhaps not so good-looking girl who tried to kiss you? Would you still be terrified? Would it be normal then?

You want me to say that I would have ran away too (and probably would have) so it would seem normal if male or female came onto me like that. As I stated before I could see in his eyes he wanted something from me that I wasn't going to give. Looking back now it could have been my pooper getting taken. My only expeience up to then were male/female, mother/father, aunty/uncle, grandma/grandpa. I tell you if that was attempted now they would get a crossing right elbow to the head.
To me it isn't "normal".

 

[Logique]

While the chances of a heterosexual man being attacked by one or more homosexuals are small , it has happened, so I'm not sure if the fear is entirely irrational.
Not all heterosexual men have the physiques of SAS troopers, and not all gay men are effeminate and I'm sure there have been cases of homo on hetero rape , maybe un-reported due to shame.
Maybe the proud homophobic has had such an encounter.

True. Shawshank Redemption, a good movie, but those prison scenes...ughh.

 

[Tisme]

While the chances of a heterosexual man being attacked by one or more homosexuals are small , it has happened, so I'm not sure if the fear is entirely irrational.

Not all heterosexual men have the physiques of SAS troopers, and not all gay men are effeminate and I'm sure there have been cases of homo on hetero rape , maybe un-reported due to shame.

Maybe the proud homophobic has had such an encounter.

Depends on the opportunity. e.g.:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/jul/17/the-rape-of-men

 

[Tisme]

This entire thread is just silly... The fact that gay people should 'fess up' suggests they've done something wrong. I'm not sure how sexual preference is a crime anymore.



This story made me laugh so much. What if it was a really tall, strong and perhaps not so good-looking girl who tried to kiss you? Would you still be terrified? Would it be normal then?

Approximately 85,000 women and 12,000 men are raped in England and Wales alone every year, laughed 'til I stopped

If homos are 2% of the population that would result in a weighted average of 85/98 = 0.86 versus 6.0 so homosexuals are 6/0.86 =7 times more likely to rape

 

[satanoperca]

so homosexuals are 6/0.86 =7 times more likely to rape

WOW, so you assume only gay men, or those that identify as gay, rape other men.

You need to get out more.

Approximately 85,000 women and 12,000 men are raped in England and Wales alone every year, laughed 'til I stopped

You need help, nothing funny about rape

 

[Tisme]

WOW, so you assume only gay men, or those that identify as gay, rape other men.

You need to get out more.


You need help, nothing funny about rape

You're not that dim are you?

Rape is penile penetration and putting it in someone's bum hole is homosexuality by definition.

Try reading it in the context of the quoted post. Of course there's nothing funny about rape and nothing funny, albeit weirdly amusing, about someone who attacks because of lack of a comprehension skillset....what are they teaching at school these days !!!

 

[satanoperca]

You're not that dim are you?

Rape is penile penetration and putting it in someone's bum hole is homosexuality by definition.

Try reading it in the context of the quoted post. Of course there's nothing funny about rape and nothing funny, albeit weirdly amusing, about someone who attacks because of lack of a comprehension skillset....what are they teaching at school these days !!!

WTF, are you normal, do you have some sort of twisted, f***ed up reason for being here?

Read what you write, or even better get someone with have a brain to read it.

Let me help you out a little.

Rape is not just penile penetration, it is any form of sexual penetration whether it be by a man or a woman, on a man or a woman or that be child.

Just look at what you wrote.

If a penis is put up someone bum, they are homosexual. So a priest who screws a young boy, both are homo's or just the priest.

Putting a dick up someones bum is homosexuality, really so all those men who put their penises up a womens bums are gay. LOL

You need to get a laugh, go a pray to god and stay well clear of society.

I cannot accept anyone who thinks rape is a joke or slightly amusing.

You are one twisted mother f---ker.

 

[Tisme]

WTF, are you normal, do you have some sort of twisted, f***ed up reason for being here?

Read what you write, or even better get someone with have a brain to read it.

Let me help you out a little.

Rape is not just penile penetration, it is any form of sexual penetration whether it be by a man or a woman, on a man or a woman or that be child.

Just look at what you wrote.

If a penis is put up someone bum, they are homosexual. So a priest who screws a young boy, both are homo's or just the priest.

Putting a dick up someones bum is homosexuality, really so all those men who put their penises up a womens bums are gay. LOL

You need to get a laugh, go a pray to god and stay well clear of society.

I cannot accept anyone who thinks rape is a joke or slightly amusing.

You are one twisted mother f---ker.

So at the moment I'm having a dilemma A) do I let this pass to the keeper or B) do I don my robe of a thousand cuts and go to town or C) is it fair to be arguing with a ...well you know D) Do I continue with "come in spinner"

 

[satanoperca]

Try B, C, or D.
But not A.

I cannot stand people who accept rape on any form at any level