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Looks like they have a Ronald Reagan back, tearing down political correctness, imv.
 
Obama wire tapping Donald Trump....that's what Donald is saying now.

He certainly has a few issue going on in his mind ..... what there is of it.
 
Tisme said:
Obama wire tapping Donald Trump....that's what Donald is saying now.

He certainly has a few issue going on in his mind ..... what there is of it.
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What a load of garbage...
It is quite simple. As Prez Trump has full access to all the evidence that would show President Obama directed wire tapping at Trump before the election.

If this allegation is true he just has to release the evidence. End of story. If he can't then clearly there isn't any ... and he is just a slandering, lying piece of xxxxx who in any other time would be forced to resign in disgrace after making such a baseless accusation.

Of course in the Time of Trump he doesn't need anything as evidence - just his personal assertion seems to be sufficient.

Truly this creature is a xxxxxxxxx menace.

How Donald Trump could settle the debate around his wiretapping allegations

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/wor...-wiretapping-allegations-20170305-guqz3u.html
 
Yep, Trump no match to Obama at the art of subterfuge.

Obama's skill of making putrid faecal matter smell like roses to cognitively dissonant leftists is unmatched.
 
wayneL said:
Yep, Trump no match to Obama at the art of subterfuge.

Obama's skill of making putrid faecal matter smell like roses to cognitively dissonant leftists is unmatched.
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That's true.

Heard some journalist saying that there's an actual study on Obama's speeches where they found that the first paragraph is all sweet liberal talk, followed by points and paragraphs that negate all that nonsense.

We tortured some folks. What can we do but torture some folks.

Taking 2 wars from Bush Jr. and turn it into 7.

Trump is a bit smarter, if we call a commander in chief washing his hands of any responsibility smart, and now let his generals decide what country to drone. No more kill list the president need to sign off. Just take 'em out and "...start winning wars".

That and jacking up the military budget by $54B to some $600B a year. Paid for by gutting EPA and other useless stuff like food and drug safety regulations.

If you're a planner in Beijing and Moscow, not sure if you're laughing or feeling really really worried.
 
Trump would have the vibe on it alright. J. Edgar Hoover started out in the 1920's as a library assistant. He learnt to and set up an index system of those above him and gradually rose by using these dossiers to sort of put people in their place or out of his pathway up. Soon rose to head the FBI, controlled six Presidents, had groups seized and never to be seen again. This is the same FBI today. Had a colleague study advanced detectve skills with them in the 80s so made a study of Hoover and the system in later years. Kennedy defied the FBI and got his. So the following makes me wonder:-

Binney told Washington's Blog:



NSA has all the data through the Upstream programs (Fairview/Stormbrew/Blarney) [background] and backed up by second and some third party country collection.



Plus the FBI and CIA plus others, as of the last month of the Obama administration, have direct access to all the NSA collection (metadata and content on phones,email and banking/credit cards etc.) with no attempt at oversight by anybody [background]. This is all done under Executive Order 12333 [the order which allows unlimited spying no matter what intelligence officials claim] ....



FBI would only ask for a warrant if they wanted to be able to take it into court at some point given they have something meaningful as evidence. This is clearly true given the fact the President Trump's phone conversations with other country leaders were leaked to the mainstream media.

In other words, Binney is saying that Trumps phones were bugged by the NSA without a warrant - remember, top NSA whistleblowers have previously explained that the NSA is spying on virtually all of the digital communications of Americans. - and the NSA shared the raw data with the CIA, FBI and other agencies.

If the FBI obtained a warrant to tap Trump's phone, it was a "parallel construction" to "launder" improperly-gained evidence through acceptable channels.

As we've previously explained:



The government is “laundering” information gained through mass surveillance through other agencies, with an agreement that the agencies will “recreate” the evidence in a “parallel construction” … so they don’t have to admit that the evidence came from unconstitutional spying. This data laundering is getting worse and worse.

So does it mean that the NSA spying on Trump Tower actually turned up some dirt?

Maybe ...

But history shows that mass surveillance has long been used to blackmail opponents ... including high-level officials. And see this.

And the former NSA director admitted that the mass surveillance is a power grab.

So we won't know until the intelligence agencies actually show their cards ... and reveal what evidence they've gathered.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-06/top-nsa-whistleblower-intelligence-agencies-did-spy-trump
 
explod said:
Trump would have the vibe on it alright. J. Edgar Hoover started out in the 1920's as a library assistant. He learnt to and set up an index system of those above him and gradually rose by using these dossiers to sort of put people in their place or out of his pathway up. Soon rose to head the FBI, controlled six Presidents, had groups seized and never to be seen again. This is the same FBI today. Had a colleague study advanced detectve skills with them in the 80s so made a study of Hoover and the system in later years. Kennedy defied the FBI and got his. So the following makes me wonder:-



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-06/top-nsa-whistleblower-intelligence-agencies-did-spy-trump
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Guess that's why he's giving them about a trillion a year to play with.

One of the lessons Machiavelli teach his prince was to find some power-hungry idiot, give him a nice title and lotsa power. Then order him to do your dirty work... then when the public are fed up with him, you then blame him for all the stuff, end him and make yourself the hero.
 
Comment being shared around FaceAche at the moment:

I read this this morning and applaud the American who wrote it!
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I don't care who you voted for, at all!!! But this... this is what bothers me so badly
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.....I keep seeing people post on how they are terrified, or scared? Well.. what are you scared of exactly? War? Because that's happening. School shootings? Because that's happening. Pipeline? That's been happening. Terrorism? Definitely alive and well. Going broke due to health insurance? Mm yes. Corruption throughout the system? Already there. Police officers being murdered? Yep, that's happening. Bullying? Check. Loss of jobs? We've got that on lock. A tanking economy. Yep. Being discriminated against for your religion, political views, sexual orientation, race? That's been going on. Rape, murder, violence, riots.. all going on and has been.
So tell me, what are you scared of that is not already happening basically everywhere? This isn't a Trump problem, this is a people problem. Y'all need to reevaluate your own selves..
Maybe America is a little too scared and a little too easily offended.
Quit being scared, crying around, offended by everything.. step up and do your part as an American, no, as a human being. Treat others with respect, help and encourage one another, raise your kids right, tell the truth, be a contributing member of society. Make sure your hands are clean, that's your job. Burning the American flag?
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Get out of here with that, how about you do your job to make it a better place.
But right now, all I see is hate.
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It's disturbing,
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and the ones with the most hate are being exactly what they claim to be against.
Copy and paste if you agree....this is common sense
 
wayneL said:
Comment being shared around FaceAche at the moment:

I read this this morning and applaud the American who wrote it!
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I don't care who you voted for, at all!!! But this... this is what bothers me so badly
1f914.png
.....I keep seeing people post on how they are terrified, or scared? Well.. what are you scared of exactly? War? Because that's happening. School shootings? Because that's happening. Pipeline? That's been happening. Terrorism? Definitely alive and well. Going broke due to health insurance? Mm yes. Corruption throughout the system? Already there. Police officers being murdered? Yep, that's happening. Bullying? Check. Loss of jobs? We've got that on lock. A tanking economy. Yep. Being discriminated against for your religion, political views, sexual orientation, race? That's been going on. Rape, murder, violence, riots.. all going on and has been.
So tell me, what are you scared of that is not already happening basically everywhere? This isn't a Trump problem, this is a people problem. Y'all need to reevaluate your own selves..
Maybe America is a little too scared and a little too easily offended.
Quit being scared, crying around, offended by everything.. step up and do your part as an American, no, as a human being. Treat others with respect, help and encourage one another, raise your kids right, tell the truth, be a contributing member of society. Make sure your hands are clean, that's your job. Burning the American flag?
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Get out of here with that, how about you do your job to make it a better place.
But right now, all I see is hate.
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It's disturbing,
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and the ones with the most hate are being exactly what they claim to be against.
Copy and paste if you agree....this is common sense
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People are scared not because those bad things does exist before Trump.

They're scared because Trump add fuel to all that.

So...

Worried about your healthcare? Repeal Obamacare, throw tens of millions out of health insurance, and will somehow give them "something much better". No, not universal healthcare like just about all the developed economies have, that's crazy. Something awesome, like go fark yourself, exercise and don't get sick.

Worried about pipelines? Hundreds of them have been leaking all over the US each year? You must be used to be by now so it's drill and pipe baby!

Worried about food and drug safety? Let's defund and get rid of many, many useless regulation. Speed up half-baked drugs so that everyone can enjoy the "miracle" of a dubious drug big pharma want to push onto the public to help the sick.

Some drugs that weren't tested properly and got unleashed on the market cause countless of newborn deformities and birth defects. Opps.

Wall St doesn't need regulation. Why all the rules man.

Wars getting you down and draining the national treasury? Here's an extra $54B to that half of all gov't spending. Gut the EPA... and ey, military generals can now drown and order raids on any country in the world without congress or presidential oversight. Just go and kill whoever looks funny, in any country.


Yea, Obama and the Democrats did a lot of the same stuff. That's why they're out and the public do not vote for them.

How's Trump accelerating all of it is going to make voters live better? They'll like it more because Trump did the screwing?
 
Another Trump tweet. Another Trump lie.

Black and white. Complete misrepresentation of the evidence. Just dangerously crackers. This is bat xxxxx crazy. What will be even more crazy will be seeing how many people will understand and acknowledge the mistake/lie or just double down and say it has to true because the Liar-in-Chief said it.

Going on past performances this will be something he saw on Breibart or Fox. So we can guess all of those readers will be sprouting the same rubbish.

Trump said Obama freed 122 'vicious prisoners' but actually it was only nine
Trump tweeted an erroneous ‘fact’ on Tuesday, which appeared to mischaracterize a 2016 intelligence report tracking former Guantánamo Bay inmates

Donald Trump said on Tuesday that 122 “vicious prisoners” freed from Guantánamo Bay by Barack Obama had “returned to the battlefield”. In fact, the correct figure is nine.

The president appeared to be mischaracterizing a 2016 intelligence report tracking former inmates of the controversial prison who were confirmed to have “re-engaged in terrorism”.

The report, issued by the office of the director of national intelligence on 14 September 2016, said 113 former inmates released under President George W Bush had been confirmed to have re-engaged.

The report did contain the number 122. That number was the sum total of former Guantánamo inmates confirmed to have re-engaged in terrorism as of 15 July 2016.

But only nine of those suspects had been released since 22 January 2009, two days after Barack Obama’s inauguration.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/07/trump-guantanamo-bay-obama-tweet-prisoners
 
basilio said:
The report, issued by the office of the director of national intelligence on 14 September 2016, said 113 former inmates released under President George W Bush had been confirmed to have re-engaged.

The report did contain the number 122. That number was the sum total of former Guantánamo inmates confirmed to have re-engaged in terrorism as of 15 July 2016.

But only nine of those suspects had been released since 22 January 2009, two days after Barack Obama’s inauguration.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/07/trump-guantanamo-bay-obama-tweet-prisoners
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So thanks to Trump, we know that 122 released guys..I am sexist here..are back at it again.Thanks Donald.
Another point of view on a lot of uncomfortable truth coming to the surface.
 
wayneL said:
Quit being scared, crying around, offended by everything.. step up and do your part as an American, no, as a human being. Treat others with respect, help and encourage one another, raise your kids right, tell the truth, be a contributing member of society. Make sure your hands are clean, that's your job.
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Is this in support of Donald Trump? Oh dear....
 
Junior said:
Is this in support of Donald Trump? Oh dear....
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Breathtaking selective Quoting there junior.

I don't see any overt Trump support in that, just pointing out that things will pretty much be as they always have been and for us plebeians to uphold better standards of morality and honesty.

....instead of disingenuous flim flammery and negative spin at every opportunity. ;)
 
luutzu said:
Na, he's too much of a perfect idiot for the real power in America to let go of him.

Though they're prefer a Bill Clinton or an Obama or a Reagan - nice speeches, same old shiet. Sometime they'll have to live with the uncouth Bush Jr. and Trump.
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More Trump bashing.
 
wayneL said:
Breathtaking selective Quoting there junior.

I don't see any overt Trump support in that, just pointing out that things will pretty much be as they always have been and for us plebeians to uphold better standards of morality and honesty.

....instead of disingenuous flim flammery and negative spin at every opportunity. ;)
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My negativity is only in relation to the Donald wayneL, I can't see any positives here. Nothing but fear, division, bullying, and lie after lie from this man and his cronies.

I do, however think this current saga will eventually lead to a positive outcome for humankind. If we must tolerate 4 years of having this incompetent a-hole running the show, americans will be desperate for positive change thereafter, I hope.

This strong anti-immigration & protectionist theme will surely not last forever, as we live in a world that has thrived & prospered on free trade and movement of people between countries for so long.

For those who have not read The Rational Optimist, I think now is a good time.
 
Junior said:
My negativity is only in relation to the Donald wayneL, I can't see any positives here. Nothing but fear, division, bullying, and lie after lie from this man and his cronies.
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It's a shame the the alternative candidates are as much or bigger a-holes than the incumbents in more countries than just the US.

Nick Xenophon excepted.
 
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