The ScoMo Government

[SirRumpole]

Just as governments should honour all promises unless there's a major, real change of circumstances which precludes doing so.

Does that mean that subsequent governments have to keep promises of previous governments that they don't agree with ?

It seems that in this case as Labor voted against Rex Patrick's Bil, they agree with confidentiality, but it's not always the case.

 

[sptrawler]

Does that mean that subsequent governments have to keep promises of previous governments that they don't agree with ?

It seems that in this case as Labor voted against Rex Patrick's Bil, they agree with confidentiality, but it's not always the case.

If they don't they usually compensate with big payouts, that's happened before.

 

[IFocus]

Its public funds no room for confidentiality, I have no issues with the government paying or subsidising companies during the pandemic as long as its transparent.

The idea someone making profits getting payments and keeping the cash is quit extraordinary.

 

[Smurf1976]

Does that mean that subsequent governments have to keep promises of previous governments that they don't agree with ?

That depends on the detail.

In the context of an arrangement between government and business, if business is lead to believe at the time that it's confidential then it ought to remain so regardless of who's in government.

Whether or not it ought to be confidential is another question but if private enterprise or an individual is informed that it it's confidential then that's what it should be. A deal is a deal.

There's also an issue with things like manufacturing to keep the cost base as secret as possible. The more competitors know about key input costs, the easier it is to engage in predatory pricing to put them out of business. That's a pretty major issue in some contexts and one reason such businesses aren't keen on government owning utilities, railways and so on. The risk that the price ends up being public just makes it dead easy for competitors.

 

[wayneL]

100%

 

[sptrawler]

I might be wrong, but I was right with silly Billy, I really think Albo needs to crank it up or he will be in deepum $hitum.
Morrison is changing the rhetoric and I don't think it will end well for Albo, unless he gets on the front foot, I think the small target has run its course.
Like I said I think the media is going to lose the election for Labor this time, by constantly bagging Morrison, he doesn't have to jump a very high bar.
Time will tell.

Press Conference Canberra, ACT | Prime Minister of Australia

www.pm.gov.au

From the article:
We will set out a clear plan, as we have been working to do. Australians deserve to know, and they will from us.

 

[wayneL]

I might be wrong, but I was right with silly Billy, I really think Albo needs to crank it up or he will be in deepum $hitum.
Morrison is changing the rhetoric and I don't think it will end well for Albo, unless he gets on the front foot, I think the small target has run its course.
Like I said I think the media is going to lose the election for Labor this time, by constantly bagging Morrison, he doesn't have to jump a very high bar.
Time will tell.

Press Conference Canberra, ACT | Prime Minister of Australia

www.pm.gov.au

From the article:
We will set out a clear plan, as we have been working to do. Australians deserve to know, and they will from us.

My dream (realistic) scenario... Lib Dems hold balance of power in the Senate and channel Don Chipp... and keep the bastards honest.

 

[sptrawler]

My dream (realistic) scenario... Lib Dems hold balance of power in the Senate and channel Don Chipp... and keep the bastards honest.

That would be nice, but we have ended up with two parties really and it takes really well engineered plan to play the media, to win.
Which actually tells you how poor politics has become, these days it is more of a competition between the P.M and the media, for both parties.
The media want a single focus, because it uses less resources to trip the P.M up on a full range of portfolio's, than having the resources to focus on ministers of individual portfolios. More bang for bucks IMO.
The problem for Labor is, Albo hasn't put anything forward, so when he does, he will be under the pump.
Especially if he has to get the whole message over, in a short period of time, when he is being attacked by the Government and the media.
Cutting things fine IMO.

 

[basilio]

Government is siccing debt collectors onto pensioners who received a few extra dollars through Job Keeper.

But of course no one in the Government is considering any action on business that made out like bandits on job keeperand paid themselves huge bonuses ripped from the hard working taxpayers .

Be interesting to see how these actions are revived at election time.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...le-who-are-choosing-between-food-and-medicine

 

[Humid]

Liar, liar pants on fire

It is commonly believed if you are going to consistently tell lies you need either a good memory or a hide like a rhinoceros. These days neither seems to be necessary.

johnmenadue.com

 

[basilio]

 

[basilio]

Liar, liar pants on fire

It is commonly believed if you are going to consistently tell lies you need either a good memory or a hide like a rhinoceros. These days neither seems to be necessary.

johnmenadue.com

Very thoughtful story. Great website too !
Thanks

 

[sptrawler]

Sounds as though the withdrawl from Afghanistan, has brought on the reality of how exposed we really are.

MSN

www.msn.com

From the article:
Minister for Defence Peter Dutton says the Morrison government will be investing $65 billion “over the next decade into next-generation air capabilities” with the inclusion of acquiring Long Range Anti-Ship Missiles.

 

[Knobby22]

Sounds as though the withdrawl from Afghanistan, has brought on the reality of how exposed we really are.

MSN

www.msn.com

From the article:
Minister for Defence Peter Dutton says the Morrison government will be investing $65 billion “over the next decade into next-generation air capabilities” with the inclusion of acquiring Long Range Anti-Ship Missiles.

We need to. Those jet fighters we were buying are now duds. The USA should sell us some stealth fighters instead.

 

[macca]

We need to. Those jet fighters we were buying are now duds. The USA should sell us some stealth fighters instead.

I think we should lease some newish stuff from the USA or the UK, maybe a 10 year lease for their spare ships.

Much better than buying a Sub that runs on Diesel in 2050, what an idiot, probably won't even be able to buy diesel by then

 

[sptrawler]

We need to. Those jet fighters we were buying are now duds. The USA should sell us some stealth fighters instead.

A few hypersonic long range missiles scattered across the North wouldn't hurt either IMO.

 

[sptrawler]

I think we should lease some newish stuff from the USA or the UK, maybe a 10 year lease for their spare ships.

Much better than buying a Sub that runs on Diesel in 2050, what a F idiot, probably won't even be able to buy diesel by then

Yes someone needs to pull the rug on that one, let's be honest you are only going to upset the French and when have they given a $hit about anyone else's feelings. ?

Sinking of the Rainbow Warrior - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[PZ.]

$65 billion “over the next decade into next-generation air capabilities

or...

ZERO for not being an aggressor in your own neighbourhood

 

[Humid]

JobKeeper shame and the collapse of business leadership in Australia - Michael West

Unless they disclose who got it, JobKeeper will remain a giant festering stain on the reputation of big business in Australia. Michael West reports on business’s greatest shame.

www.michaelwest.com.au

Nah school halls and pink bats fits my narrative....

 

[IFocus]

JobKeeper shame and the collapse of business leadership in Australia - Michael West

Unless they disclose who got it, JobKeeper will remain a giant festering stain on the reputation of big business in Australia. Michael West reports on business’s greatest shame.

www.michaelwest.com.au

Nah school halls and pink bats fits my narrative....

It beyond anything seen in Australia's history from the article


"Week in, week out, we are treated to whining by the leaders of Australia’s business lobby. Taxes are too high, wages are too high, government debt is too high; these are the common refrains.

We see them on the ABC, we see them on Sky “News”. They are all over the press, pontificating to politicians and anybody who will listen how Australians should conduct their affairs.

But where are they now, where are they on the issue of the biggest transfer of wealth in history, a transfer of almost $100 billion in JobKeeper subsidies from ordinary Australians to business, much of it to big business which did not need it to survive?

Slinking about behind the scenes warning the Coalition not to dare disclose who got what and how much, that’s where. Silent on the matter of this transfer of $9,000 per Australian citizen to corporations."