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Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

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Umm there were the primaries as well and he knocked them put one by one.
Oh you thought he magically got put in there to milk democrats and republicans tears did you?
The fact that he made it is horrifying, but also defied the odds.
His party didn't support him, neither did the media or anyone else and was out funded by a huge amount. Up until yesterday it was Hillary all the way.
It was an accomplishment. He surrounded himself with the right people and a tonne of lies and got the job done.

America hardly needs the bleating from the Australian media, actors or lefties to save them. This country has the most docile sheeple in the world.
The US is finally trying to break away from the entrenched establishment in Washington. I have no faith in trump, but this is the first step. And it's an important one.
 
Maybe a ray of hope for the 50% in the western world who are blamed for being too rich, white, hetero,working, not public servant and can see that for every illegal immigrant, there is one job less or 10 tax payers put to contribution, and for most politician, a pig in a trought
Why were big business, journos and lawyers (the same who are our politicians) shocked? Anyone living a real life in the western world is not surprised.
May the establishment learn or will they adopt a Merkel/french socialist attitude: open the gate and flood the countries with immigrants until a majority of the voters are on welfare/no tax and so become an easy electorate to please.
In places, being in jail remove your voting rights,; in a logical society, so should being on welfare; That would change the way we are governed (sp?)
Good luck on the US.
Sadly (as it could be done in a more refined way with proper democracy), Putin and Trump are the last bastion of the western civilisation.And so far, not impressed by the alyternative offered in civilisation models: China or Saudi arabia?
 
It was a bad dream right ?

Looks to me the US market will flourish as Trump cuts off trading partners to bring jobs back home but that doesn't mean it will benefit Australia.

I'll be looking to get out of the market very soon to wait and see.

Trump has no idea how to run a country , he got himself elected ok but from here on ?
 
Agree ity may not be good for Australia, but will be good for the US, as for Trump having no ideas on how to run a country , do you think obama had a clue, the role of the president is to choose a team, not do the niutty gritty.Time will tell
 
One side is delivering this:


While the other side delivers unruly street mobs, and petulant attention-seeking tantrums.
 

The american market is comprised many companies which derive a big chunk of their profits from Asia, from asian consumers and via products manufactured with cheap Asian labour. There will be winners and losers under Trump but it will not be as clear cut as investing in US shares or Aussie shares IMO.
 

Sore losers aren't they?

In other news, Trump's team is said to have contacted JPMorgan Chase & Co's CEO asking whether he'd want to be the next Secretary of the Treasury.


Bill Clinton put some Citi bank's CEO - Rubin - in the same position, the guy allowed Citi to merge with another major bank to form CitiGroup... once he left office, the joined CitiGroup for about $15m a year.

Bush Jr. appointed Goldman Sach's CEO in the same position. The banks got bailed out while homeowners got the free market.

Obama kept the same dude; later appoint some other banker.

And now Trump is upsetting the apple cart by appointing JPMorgan instead of Goldman Sachs.


These guys really don't know why Clinton lost and a guy like Trump won.
 
luutzu said:
These guys really don't know why Clinton lost and a guy like Trump won.
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Oh don't worry, they all know why Trump won.

From today's West Australian newspaper:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/w...n-deal-to-foil-state-election-backlash/#page1

The working class are sick of being shafted, elites and left wing social engineering, is really pi$$ing off the middle class who are paying for it

Politicians from both sides will be worried, the silent majority are getting angry.

That is why the Coalition need to get Abbott back, having Bill Shortens twin as leader, isn't going to cut it.
Pauline just needs to get more runners and she will shoe it in, so to speak.lol
 

They know, but their policies doesn't show they really know.

They're still sticking to the conventional wisdom that as long as you change a new label with a new face, voters will be happy and so business can go on as usual. Then if that don't work out, you change again at the next election cycle.

Keep that up long enough and there won't be any need for any election.
 

Well there isn't a lot else the middle class can do, they can't march on Parliament, or tie themselves to a tree, they are too busy working.
 
sptrawler said:
Well there isn't a lot else the middle class can do, they can't march on Parliament, or tie themselves to a tree, they are too busy working.
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Well they had better. Can't have servants serving your way by turning up to the polls every few years then go home til next time.
 
The Donald might surprise a few people. Good piece from Peter Smith.

 
Logique said:
The Donald might surprise a few people. Good piece from Peter Smith.
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This is the sort of bloke we need here in Australia because by hell things are certainly getting out of hand with Turnbull and Shorten.....I think the Green/Labor left wing coalition and the CFMEU are paying Turnbull with brown paper bags.....Is Turnbull a Labor stooge?????
 
Trump to retain Obama care with mods. Good. He is acting for everyone like he said he would. He might turn out to be a very good President.
 
Knobby22 said:
Trump to retain Obama care with mods. Good. He is acting for everyone like he said he would. He might turn out to be a very good President.
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ObamaCare isn't as liberal or generous as it's made out to be. It's practically written by the insurance industry for Obama to sign. So of course Trump is going to keep it.. .and will tweak the parts that barred insurers from denying care due to "pre-existing condition" - like having a cut to your pinky in primary school or some thing.

I heard that on average, ObamaCare premium had jumped 25% on last year's rate. And a lot of workers just cannot afford it so are now deciding whether to quit and take their chances.


That's not to say that it does no good... my wife's uncle in the US was lucky enough to sign up and not get rejected... then soon after he got cancer. If it weren't for ObamaCare, he would have lost his family's house to pay for the medical care.

But yea, Trump will either be one of the US great presidents; or he'll be another Obama and we can all get to watch the place collapse from within.
 

I thought we've already got more than a few who tells us what we want to hear.
 
luutzu said:
I thought we've already got more than a few who tells us what we want to hear.
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It is not so much as those who tell us what we want to hear, it is those whom are listening to what we fear.

This is the trouble with the two major parties, they don't want to know what the average Joe Blow thinks.
 
noco said:
It is not so much as those who tell us what we want to hear, it is those whom are listening to what we fear.

This is the trouble with the two major parties, they don't want to know what the average Joe Blow thinks.
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What is it that the people fear that weren't forced fed into them?

Muslims? Islam? Terrorism everywhere? Drugs? Welfare cheats. Welfare recipients are lazy druggies who should be taught the hard lessons of life while those with money and influence should be "incentivised" with less tax and more rebates so they'd work harder - I mean, what does NAB knows about business people right? Money is everything to entrepreneurs and inventors.

Trust me noco, it's when the population have nothing to fear that they're made to be fearful. That's how the gov't can take away your privacy, spend tonnes of your cash on some stupid program that none of your kids will ever benefit from.

It's during times of real crisis - like a serious invasion from a no-nonsense imperial power... it's during fearful times that the leaders will tell us there's nothing to be afraid of.

That's the basic rule of Machiavellian, master of man kind of bs.


As to politicians not knowing how the average joe is doing... they know it very well. They engineer the bloody thing. They know, just they don't give a dam.

So if we care about the rights that our forefathers [yours, mine weren't here yet ] have fought for, the first thing to do is to stop believing in that heroic leader. Not even Pauline Hanson could save us.

If it's a democracy for the people we want, we better go get it. It's not going to be handed down to us because they somehow care.
 
Can't always get what you want

 
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