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Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

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Hmmm.. Well I have no fixed political ideology [like you I gather] but Trump strikes me as a bigot, egotist and as a person who is blatantly dangerous to the globe.

"Hills" is not OK - but less "disastrous".

I don't know whether you can place much trust in the US press which is similar to our own ABC.....Very far left and influenced by the Clinton camp.
 
What do you think is my fixed political ideology?

Hint 1. I have stated it often enough

Hint 2. I am not a conservative

Hmmmm??

Were you stating Wayne to be far left?

Why hint? Just advise. Don't like word games. And not going to scroll back through your posts.
 
I don't know whether you can place much trust in the US press which is similar to our own ABC.....Very far left and influenced by the Clinton camp.

Sorry, wasn't referring to press. Trump's own mouth has been his downfall.......

Please don't infer that I am saying Hillary is a saint..... Just the lesser of two evils.
 
Winning candidate Sportsbet Hillary/Donald: $1.20/$5.00 + 3 others at plenty.
Popular vote percentage: $1.17/$4.65.
 
Winning candidate Sportsbet Hillary/Donald: $1.20/$5.00 + 3 others at plenty.
Popular vote percentage: $1.17/$4.65.

Must be a lot of people betting on Hillary. Odds have shortened markedly.
 
Winning candidate Sportsbet Hillary/Donald: $1.20/$5.00 + 3 others at plenty.
Popular vote percentage: $1.17/$4.65.
Looks too high a mountain for The Donald at $5.00.

Anyway, two more sleeps and the long campaign ordeal will be over.
 
Must be a lot of people betting on Hillary. Odds have shortened markedly.
Whilst not being a close follower of US politics, I have a small wager on this in the form of a hot caffeinated beverage.

I'm assuming US voters overall aren't quiet as out there as one of the candidates.
 
Winning candidate Sportsbet Hillary/Donald: $1.20/$5.00 + 3 others at plenty.
Popular vote percentage: $1.17/$4.65.

That would help explain the market rally and fall in gold stocks today.
 
Were you stating Wayne to be far left?

Why hint? Just advise. Don't like word games. And not going to scroll back through your posts.

Fair enough.

Best not to make assumptions then, what?
 
Fair enough.

Best not to make assumptions then, what?

Sorry, I think it was Basilo of whom you said

"I suggest your interpretation of facts is severely skewed by your far left ideology".

I should suggest rather than assume...

Tired of keyboard biting.
 
Sorry, I think it was Basilo of whom you said

"I suggest your interpretation of facts is severely skewed by your far left ideology".

I should suggest rather than assume...

Tired of keyboard biting.
Well there's a lot of territory to the right of the far left, without being either rigid, or far right, including the center.
 
Did you Know ?

That Donald Trumps lawyers have to meet him in pairs to deal with his inveterate lying ? Another fascinating fact about the man who would be President.

You can find the source of this statement in the article I am citing.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/07/how-does-donald-trump-lie-fact-checker
 

I saw a few examples of Trump lying, and man he's quite an incredible liar.

But it seem that he's so unlikeable and full of himself that we know he's lying; or at least not take anything he said seriously - even if it's true.

Clinton I've also seen her lying - about her server being more secured and advanced than that of the State Dept.; how she not only change her stances and shift positions, but say it as though she's always been for whatever it is that's now popular - like how she has always "championed" $15 minimum wage, how she's always been for gay marriages, against the TTP etc. etc.


Probably repeating myself from previous postings, but Hillary is just too smooth and too comfortable for the public good.

When a liar like Trump make some claim, most would know he's lying and so would check on it. When Clinton lies, she's so good and so polite about it we wouldn't even think about the possibility of her lying.

That and with a media that's submissive to those in power and the population living so precariously they hardly have any time to read much beside the few minutes of news... the US (and the world) could get into another few wars without even realising it.

I mean, Obama deported more people than all US presidents did, ever. He appoint a bunch of Wall St. and business friendly people into senior gov't positions and made a few Secretaries; the permanently extend the Bush Jr. tax cuts for the wealthy; permit the banks and too big to fail financial institutions to get even bigger; giving them free cash in the trillions; sign off on and expand drone wars on suspect all over the ME and Africa; fast tracking the TPP, pivot to Asia to confront China etc. etc.

but because he's painted as some "liberal" and "left" president, he could do it without people suspecting he'd ever do such a thing.

Anyway, it's between a rock and a hard place. I guess the American people are waking up to how not so special their country is and are demanding changes. Or else.
 
Having been in the USA many times, it doesn't surprise me the sheeple attitude of the masses, not at all unlike those who walk amongst us who, by and large, have an illogical bond to our political parties.

But there is hope:


 
I've started to feel a bit nervous about this election. I can't see any possibility of a good outcome, either way. A Clinton win would be 'safer', which is most important, but then there's just more of the same... meaning that the US continues its decline as a World power. There's no way she has what it takes to create massive positive change.

#beyourownpresident
#Ihavenopresident
 
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When a liar like Trump make some claim, most would know he's lying and so would check on it. When Clinton lies, she's so good and so polite about it we wouldn't even think about the possibility of her lying.
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Yeh, with Trump you know exactly what you're dealing with. He's the archetypal white, male, patriarchal, boss-man avatar and it's very easy to know how he's going to act in any situation. That certainty has an appeal, because it's transparent and predictable. It's also powerful, so you know things will get a real shake up. However, under prolonged duress, such archetypes will falter. They either morph into cruel dictators (like the Chinese and Russian leaders) or they start to doubt themselves and wobble and crack. Wobbling and cracking is extremely unlikely, but it can happen. Jeff Kennett wobbled and cracked, then mysteriously re-appeared as an advocate of mental health, claiming he was unaffected by the backlash. I hope for Trump's sake he doesn't get elected.
 
There's great piece by Edward Luce in the FT today (republished in the AFR) about how Twitter has debased political discourse into memes and divided society into ideologies. It's a longish read but worthwhile.


Read more: http://www.afr.com/news/world/us-el...the-twitter-age-20161107-gsk6wv#ixzz4PNMe6pAb
 
From post above:

He seems capable of reasoned argument, even if his views repel. Yet he chooses not to. "We live in a post-literate age," he says. During the enlightenment people made their case through books - everything was mediated via the written word, he says. We are heading back to the pre-enlightenment era. People didn't read the Bible then; they looked at it. A clever meme may use a dash of text but it is essentially an image, or a video, that speaks to people's emotions - "like a hieroglyph or a stained-glass window", he says. The more it grabs them the better.

I'm hoping the Gen Zs will be better than this. Hopefully, we aren't going to go the way of sheep, ready for another dictator. If not, Democracy is in danger.
 
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