Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

basilio said:

One day after his nomination as Republican nominee The Washington Post has condemned Donald Trump as a "unique threat to American democracy".

The Editorial vivisects him.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...d823cc-4f4f-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html

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Well it just shows, how pizzed off the general public are with swallowing the garbage.

It is a protest vote, but don't think it is for your cause.lol

I have no love for Hilary Clinton. I'm not confident she will be a great President.

But I am certain Donald Trump will be a disaster. Sometimes you have to hold your nose and take the least worst option. At least with a Hilary Clinton Presidency one could see public opinion having a meaningful impact on policies.

basilio said:

I have no love for Hilary Clinton. I'm not confident she will be a great President.

But I am certain Donald Trump will be a disaster. Sometimes you have to hold your nose and take the least worst option. At least with a Hilary Clinton Presidency one could see public opinion having a meaningful impact on policies.

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Na, under Clinton public opinion might only influence her rhetoric - it will not have much, if any, influence on her policies. We can see this already with the DNC's platform. Trade or fossil fuel... it's business as usual no matter what the public thinks of it.

But if the public marches down the streets, like they did during the 60s and early 70s... then in that case, any president will smarten up and get enlightened a bit quicker.

In terms of foreign policies, she's probably worst than Trump. And that is scary. Clinton hasn't met any war she doesn't like. Libya she was on top of; she wanted to enforce no fly zone over Syria - which mean going up against Russian jets; there's the smaller less significant coup in Honduras; her and Bill's foundation nice work exploiting Haiti and the fund donated to rebuild it.

So Trump the idiot talks about bombing the families of terrorist, do more than water board... Clinton didn't flinch when she threaten to wipe clean Iran if it look at Israel funny.


Was watching an interview with Julian Assange where he points out how the DNC's chairwoman resigned once the email leak show the DNC bias, funneling of down-ticket funds back to Clinton, other actions to destroy Sanders' campaign - when it ought to be neutral. After the resignation, Schultz was hired by the Clinton campaign. Showing, as Assange said, that if you're corrupt, break your ethical and moral obligation... as long as it benefit Clinton, Clinton will protect you.

That is encouraging corruption and dishonesty.

So while Trump is a dangerous fascist, Clinton is only better because she can hide behind nicer words.

Anyway, it serves a democracy well to remember that the reason democracy is a better form of gov't is because it does not rely on any single leader being kind and good.

There's always been enlightened Kings and Emperors - let's get out of the habit of waiting for an enlightened elected leader. Democracy is meant to be idiot proof - put any tyrannical, incompetent idiot in power and they'd serve us just as well because we demand it.

Big corporations have been doing just that and it serves them pretty well. Time us plebs get on board before Muslims and terrorist forced our leader's hands to ban all protest and free speech.

Interesting.....

Behind Democrats' email leak, U.S. experts see a Russian subplot

CanOz said:

Interesting.....

Behind Democrats' email leak, U.S. experts see a Russian subplot

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Isn't it funny: the liberals basically accusing Trump of being a commie...(not exactly, but the spirit is there..big bad russian red wolf), what next: they will try to create a sex scandal, forge a fraud, etc ...
And all that because the public has been informed (Thanks Wikileak) of one of the twisted schemes Hillary did to ensure nomination...
Absolutely incredible!
Bernie's supporters must feel like voting Trump today.
What a piece of crap this woman is; I have/had a positive image of Bill,even after Monika, but she is pure evil (I am pushing a few buttons here )

Carlin on Politics

qldfrog said:

Isn't it funny: the liberals basically accusing Trump of being a commie...(not exactly, but the spirit is there..big bad russian red wolf), what next: they will try to create a sex scandal, forge a fraud, etc ...
And all that because the public has been informed (Thanks Wikileak) of one of the twisted schemes Hillary did to ensure nomination...
Absolutely incredible!
Bernie's supporters must feel like voting Trump today.
What a piece of crap this woman is; I have/had a positive image of Bill,even after Monika, but she is pure evil (I am pushing a few buttons here )

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The obvious thing though...what a piece of crap the US political system is, Bernie should have been able to run against Trump and Hillary on his own....it's not right and now it's more obvious than ever.

CanOz said:

The obvious thing though...what a piece of crap the US political system is, Bernie should have been able to run against Trump and Hillary on his own....it's not right and now it's more obvious than ever.

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While Bernie is a socialist "a la european" {which basically collapse a country in 15y) he at least was genuine , believed in what he said and would have broken the statu quo , wo the risk Trump represents;
So Trump it will be, thanks to the Democrat engine room and lobbies, or worst Hillary...
Poor country, and I thought we were in a bad state here

qldfrog said:

While Bernie is a socialist "a la european" {which basically collapse a country in 15y) he at least was genuine , believed in what he said and would have broken the statu quo , wo the risk Trump represents;
So Trump it will be, thanks to the Democrat engine room and lobbies, or worst Hillary...
Poor country, and I thought we were in a bad state here

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I don't believe a democratic socialist can collapse an economy.

CanOz said:

I don't believe a democratic socialist can collapse an economy.

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Mitterrand in France 1981 to 1995; a good time for migration, a few positive cf European integration/liberal measures, a disaster for economy.
Like for the role of Islam, it may seem hard to believe but facts do not lie;usually, the left does not care for facts so not a real issue.
And to be honest, most of the right does not either but the right does not pretend to have moral supremacy so I find it less cynical

qldfrog said:

Mitterrand in France 1981 to 1995; a good time for migration, a few positive cf European integration/liberal measures, a disaster for economy.
Like for the role of Islam, it may seem hard to believe but facts do not lie;usually, the left does not care for facts so not a real issue.
And to be honest, most of the right does not either but the right does not pretend to have moral supremacy so I find it less cynical

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I liked Bernie for the simple reason he seemed like he just wanted to do what 'was right'. Its a recipe for disaster though, as no politician can really ever do what is right and stay in power.

CanOz said:

I liked Bernie for the simple reason he seemed like he just wanted to do what 'was right'. Its a recipe for disaster though, as no politician can really ever do what is right and stay in power.

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Same here, I like him and believe he is genuine (until i am proven wrong) and yet he is a socialist, great idea/concept, does not work with people/individual twisted mind/egocentrict self interest...
But we need some dreamers at least from time to time;
Had Mitterrand only stay for 7 years, and a center right government taken over, it would have been sustainable in France...
But we will never know neither there nor with Bernie as he will not be around at the next elections...
We can not even blame the Americans for not giving him a chance as he had none from the start it seems...
So go Trump go

I don't understand why anyone is amazed at the probability of the USA having a misogynistic, lying, imbecilic, spiteful, bigot who uses hate as a divide and conquer card .....and they say we are twenty years behind the states, when in fact we elected the same bloke in a different skin three years ago. OZ RULES!!!!

Tisme said:

I don't understand why anyone is amazed at the probability of the USA having a misogynistic, lying, imbecilic, spiteful, bigot who uses hate as a divide and conquer card .....and they say we are twenty years behind the states, when in fact we elected the same bloke in a different skin three years ago. OZ RULES!!!!

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Short memory, Reagan was elected, not really better than Trump, much lower IQ in my opinion

qldfrog said:

Short memory, Reagan was elected, not really better than Trump, much lower IQ in my opinion

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Reagan got good people around him, as Trump will do.

Hillary is Scorpio with Scorpio rising, a so called "double Scorpio". Heaven help us.

You blokes in the White House, start updating your CV just in case. :couch

Logique said:

Reagan got good people around him, as Trump will do.

Hillary is Scorpio with Scorpio rising, a so called "double Scorpio". Heaven help us.

You blokes in the White House, start updating your CV just in case. :couch

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Trump is a liar and a bit of a fool but not silly. He wants to shake things up and I think those "good " people won't be involved.
Clinton will be essentially the status quo as everything will get blocked again.

If Trump gets in he may be able to effect some change but the Republicans may do to him what they did to Obama.
He really isn't a true Republican in most ways that matter. If they do block him then there will be a large lurch to the left next election. Interesting times.

Knobby22 said:

Trump is a liar and a bit of a fool but not silly. He wants to shake things up and I think those "good " people won't be involved.
Clinton will be essentially the status quo as everything will get blocked again.

If Trump gets in he may be able to effect some change but the Republicans may do to him what they did to Obama.
He really isn't a true Republican in most ways that matter. If they do block him then there will be a large lurch to the left next election. Interesting times.

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I think they're all liars....Perhaps Webster should update the definition of politician.

I'm starting to think that Trump might actually be a better President, only because he's not Hillary.

CanOz said:

I'm starting to think that Trump might actually be a better President, only because he's not Hillary.

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I think so for the same reasons, isn't it terrible
At least we are not American so whatever happens, happens: it is not our call

qldfrog said:

I think so for the same reasons, isn't it terrible
At least we are not American so whatever happens, happens: it is not our call

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One thing for sure, if Trump gets it, the news as a form of entertainment will take on a whole new meaning...