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TSLA - Tesla Motors Inc (NASDAQ)

I wonder how much the debacle over Musk's attempted takeover of Twitter has created concern over his sate of mind and reliability to run his empire in the future.

Are investors starting to think twice about his judgement and about risking their money with him ?

As I said before , he's a genius technically, but that doesn't necessarily translate to business acumen especially with the size of his ego.

Just a thought...
 

What happened to the TSLA share price on Thursday & Friday?
 
What happened to the TSLA share price on Thursday & Friday?
Short term v long term.

To me, the willingness to spend billions on something outside ones area of expertise and apparently for one's personal gratification are danger signs in the long term.

We will see.
 
Short term v long term.

To me, the willingness to spend billions on something outside ones area of expertise and apparently for one's personal gratification are danger signs in the long term.

We will see.

How do you know what is outside his experience, and how experience matters?

Your fear of investing in something you know little about is good and understandable. Unless you're a financial advisor with knowledge on the subject, warning others and adding doubt in something that you don't know is not understandable.

Musk knew nothing about maps -

"....left South Africa on his own without anything or anyone. He went to Canada where he stayed for a while - without a permanent home - until his brother met up with him. They made their way to Palo Alto and started their first business. Zip2 was basically mapquest before mapquest (which was Google Maps before Google Maps). It would end up selling for $307 million. Cha-ching."

Very little about finance -

"Elon poured all of his money into his next venture, a company that would change the banking industry. At the time people said he was crazy and that consumers would never trust the security of the internet for online banking. His company, X.com, was more successful than anyone had ever thought possible. He even beat out his biggest competitor, PayPal, started by Peter Thiel as they agreed to merge together with Elon becoming the largest shareholder."

Rockets was his childhood dream -

"After his near-death experience, Elon revisited his childhood dreams of going to Mars. He visited NASA’s website one day and found no plan or even mention of going to Mars. Taken aback, he headed to Russia to see if he could buy a rocket himself. After being pushed around with ridiculous prices, Elon dove into books studying how rockets are built. On their plane ride home from Russia, he declared he would build the rocket himself with a spreadsheet detailing how to do it. This was how SpaceX was born."



 
warning others and adding doubt in something that you don't know is not understandable.

I know about over reach, it's bought down many an entrepreneur. and a lot of investors have suffered.

I really hope it doesn't happen and Elon continues to turn out good products and stays solvent because he's a clever person, but I think that there are possibly more risks with him that others in the long term.
 
Short term v long term.

To me, the willingness to spend billions on something outside ones area of expertise and apparently for one's personal gratification are danger signs in the long term.

We will see.
I guess if Musk wasn’t willing to go outside his area of expertise we wouldn’t have either Tesla or Space Ex to begin with.

I mean he made his 100’s of Millions by inventing Pay Pal an online payment system, and then bet the lot on an electric car company and a rocket company, neither of which would have been considered his core competence when he was basically known as an internet/ software programmer.

Actually if you rewind back to 2007, people probably would have probably thought something like Twitter made more sense for him than a car or rocket manufacturer
 
Oh Joe Manchin.... how I only thought I hated you... Is it going to be one of those abusive relationships? the early signs are there...
 
Straight from sci fi series Expanse..on Amazon Prime
 
Tesla incorporating other businesses to improve the spread of charging stations and functionality. BK World have a contract to install self serve lounges, which are cubicles that are ready to go and dropped into place. These are going up all around Europe, in remote regions. Imagine if an Australian company could design and stall something similar, but then again, we don't have the population (or do we?)

Tesla deploys cube lounges at Supercharger station with automated coffee, food, and more




Tesla has deployed large cube lounges at a Supercharger station in Germany that is equipped with automated vending machines for coffee, food, and more.
The new partnership with bk World to deploy these lounges could reshape Tesla’s Supercharger networks in regions where it is more challenging to deploy charging stations near amenities.

Tesla has been trying to deploy its Supercharger stations at properties located around amenities that offer food, coffee, and restrooms, but that is not always easy.
At a few locations, Tesla has deployed its own lounges to offer those amenities.
Now the automaker is trying a new approach through a partnership with bk World that developed a new deployable cube lounge that includes a bunch of amenities – many of them automated:
Drivers have to sign into an app in order to access the lounge:

Inside, you access different food, drinks, and even some electronics through a very high-tech automated vending machine:

Outside, there’s even a machine that can make fresh pizza for you in about four minutes:

Most importantly, the deployable air-conditioned cubes are equipped with full restrooms:

In the lounge area, there’s a Nintendo Switch for kids – big or small:

There are also seating areas with electrical outlets for people to work or charge their devices:

bk World says that the lounges are easily deployable and can be moved quickly:
While this is the first station using this new technology, the company says that it has 300 locations planned across Europe:
It’s unclear how many of those are in partnership with Tesla.
Here, Out of Specs visited the station and took a look inside the lounge. You can check the video here:

 
A little snip from the Autoline channel last week noted Tesla repurchase loyalty at 71% , any other maker would give their lower ball joints to get over 50; and sales oblitorating BMW and Mercs in there class.

And the 200 day moving just being crossed.
 
The SP has been slowly going up from May lows of US$628

 
I know many are long term holders. But was it better to sell after the stock split last time, or before?
 
I know many are long term holders. But was it better to sell after the stock split last time, or before?

I've only been involved in one sock split, and that one the SP went up significantly. That is no indication of what will happen this time around, the whole world has changed and competition is heating up. I personally believe that the SP will continue to grow and there will be more splits in the future.

DYOR
 
The climate is pretty negative and it seems for now that the low $900s is the ceiling.

Bit of a gamble that the split may bring on a bit more profits due to the lower price and fanboy exuberance.
Lucky for me I'm a gambling man.

Just need good jobs data tonight for some positive vibes.
 
I wonder if the gloss is coming off Tesla myself, I'm not trying to be negative and Tesla have and are doing amazing things, but when you set the achievement bar as high as Tesla has it is hard to maintain it.
For example the battery giga factories, they soak up a lot of money not only in materials but in maintaining market domination in a rapidly changing field.
From an @JohnDe post:
The mysterious new Tesla order to the world's largest electric vehicle battery manufacturer CATL turned out to be not of its novel Kirin batteries, but of LFP packs. Not your regular LFP battery, though, rather a greatly improved chemistry with higher density slated for the Model Y.
Daniel Zlatev, 08/03/2022
E-Mobility

The world's largest EV battery maker CATL recently announced a novel Kirin batterytechnology that allows for higher energy density than Tesla's 4680 battery cells in the same footprint. It then became clear that Tesla has ordered CATL a new type of battery than the LFP ones it already supplies for the Model 3 units made in the Shanghai Gigafactory.
Bets at the time were that Tesla might have ordered the 4680-style cells, despite that it now counts LG and Samsung among its suppliers for them, besides the original partner in the battery's development Panasonic. Now, however, local media is reporting that CATL will be selling Tesla its even more novel, M3P battery technology. It is similar to the improved LFP battery chemistry with added manganese, the so-called LMFP packs, but CATL insists that its technology is different and proprietary.


I mentioned a long time ago, i couldn't understand why Tesla doesn't outsource it battery manufacturing to a battery specialist, will the giga factories become an albatross, will the be sold?
The Tesla business model and share price reflects a lot of blue sky assumptions, once clouds start appearing, some punters get nervous.
 
I'm in the mind of getting out quick. I'll follow the charts and see.

True believer bases are generally pretty solid though. Bitcoin, apple, Tesla, Berkshire etc they all have that fanatical base that will just keep buying.
I love em. When they get all worked up it's easy cash. You also get group tards like Wall Street Bets getting runs with straight out stupidity.

Anyway let's see if the stock splits going to pay off.
 
Yes you are spot on, I'm always way too conservative, i'll never be rich.
 
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