JohnDe
La dolce vita
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Taking the politically argument / tribal / cult whatever positions out of it the massive funding of ICE, ICE running around masked up etc is unprecedented in US history and unnecessary. Add the behaviour of the DOJ aggressive language aimed at the judiciary, threatening language towards criticism (media / law firms) I am genuinely surprised at the acceptance from the conservatives here on the forum.
These are all massive threats to democracy/ free speech/ rule of law and yet silence.
You are chasing rabbits down their holes. What happens to US democracy and its political system does not affect Australia's democracy and political system.
What happens in the US often comes here example is the language used in Australia is more US than ever and your quote is perhaps a prime example.
That’s before you get into the effects of any chaos in the US markets effects the entire world which we have seen repeatedly.
The every day lunacy created by random tweets from Trump and his administration directly affects Australia.
Due to Trump we don’t know day to day if we have a AURKUS agreement, any alliance at all , what export penalty’s we face, or even if any agreements made will be honoured as none have been so far.
Again I don’t understand the silence.
What happens in the US often comes here example is the language used in Australia is more US than ever and your quote is perhaps a prime example.
That’s before you get into the effects of any chaos in the US markets effects the entire world which we have seen repeatedly.
The every day lunacy created by random tweets from Trump and his administration directly affects Australia.
Due to Trump we don’t know day to day if we have a AURKUS agreement, any alliance at all , what export penalty’s we face, or even if any agreements made will be honoured as none have been so far.
Again I don’t understand the silence.
Yeah.. J had an ongoing discussion with John Dee earlier on around this topic. Historically I have had a general respect for his posts/experiences . However I finally hit a brick wall when he announced with calm certainty that the US cannot become an Authoritation/fascist State because of the strength of its Laws, Constitution and Judical system.
End of story.
Ignore what is happening to Laws, The Constitution and the Judiciary. Ignore the outcomes of the systematic attacks on the Media, Education systems, Science organisations and Judiciary. Nope. The invokement of the Holy words "Laws, Constitution and Judiciary" is sufficient to ensure a stable, democratic, rational society. Scary.
Understanding what is happening
I came across this excellent analysis by Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Dietrich was a German Philosopher/ Theologian who was executed by the Nazis in 1945.
This is the snap shot. The rest of the video explores
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I really don't understand the silence, maybe people think there is a grand master plan (there isnt) or as John Mauldin long time Republican / Trump supporter says he hopes Trump gets lucky but at least's acknowledges the bleeding obvious economically its a train wreak.
I don't understand the silence where ICE is going to get more funding than the FBI, US marines. All that to round up so called cat and dog eaters / criminals / illegal immigrates.
This is an organization that wont identify themselves, mask wearing paramilitary where are the freedom fighters, patriots of free speech etc?
What's disturbing is illegal immigrants and immigrants per say in the US have much lower crime rates than the general population.
No disagreement about deporting criminals or illegals through due process but that is not happening.
This is the mentality Australia has to deal with I think AUKUS is dead. The US has to build 2 subs a year to meet supply of their own production requirements and Australia's they cannot build 1.5 a year plus there are rumors Trump will only agree if Australia is locked in to deploy the Subs for any US requirements.
Note Albanese change of language regarding Australia's independence and sovereignty.
Cult cheers on.
when the next president is elected we will visit this post and this thread with your comments of democracy’s demise and see what your predictions amount to.
Well worth repeating.I don't understand the silence where ICE is going to get more funding than the FBI, US marines. All that to round up so called cat and dog eaters / criminals / illegal immigrates.
This is an organization that wont identify themselves, mask wearing paramilitary where are the freedom fighters, patriots of free speech etc?
What's disturbing is illegal immigrants and immigrants per say in the US have much lower crime rates than the general population.
No disagreement about deporting criminals or illegals through due process but that is not happening.
What's wrong with ICE getting more funding than the marines? (they are not - Karens Facebook TDS cult is wrong) "Marines get more funding than ICE, fueling debates on Trumps military obsession over domestic safety" if that headline came from Fox News or MSNBC people would be screaming and shouting against marines getting $$$.I really don't understand the silence, maybe people think there is a grand master plan (there isnt) or as John Mauldin long time Republican / Trump supporter says he hopes Trump gets lucky but at least's acknowledges the bleeding obvious economically its a train wreak.
I don't understand the silence where ICE is going to get more funding than the FBI, US marines. All that to round up so called cat and dog eaters / criminals / illegal immigrates.
This is an organization that wont identify themselves, mask wearing paramilitary where are the freedom fighters, patriots of free speech etc?
What's disturbing is illegal immigrants and immigrants per say in the US have much lower crime rates than the general population.
No disagreement about deporting criminals or illegals through due process but that is not happening.
This is the mentality Australia has to deal with I think AUKUS is dead. The US has to build 2 subs a year to meet supply of their own production requirements and Australia's they cannot build 1.5 a year plus there are rumors Trump will only agree if Australia is locked in to deploy the Subs for any US requirements.
Note Albanese change of language regarding Australia's independence and sovereignty.
Cult cheers on.
I wonder whyMAGA or Tucker ratcheting up the pressure regarding Epstein being a foreign agent for Israel running black mail.....
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And there lies the problem, if Trumps behavior and actions (a new low) become acceptable the bar lowered it can only get worse come the next administration no mattery the party.
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President Trump is no longer fighting inflation, China, or AI. Instead, he’s declared war on a manufactured threat: the “enemy within” — immigrants, journalists, and professors. Our biggest threat, apparently, isn’t Russian aggression or economic inequality; it’s your Uber driver or anthropology professor. This is not only cruel (and depraved) but stupid, as the chill being cast across the agriculture, services, and construction sectors will likely be more inflationary than the tariffs (more stupidity). Trump’s goal is to deport 4 million undocumented people over four years — that’s about 3% of the U.S. workforce; 10% to 15% in several sectors dependent on immigrant labor. The “Big, Beautiful Bill” signed into law on July 4 isn’t about border security. It’s a blueprint for mass detention and deportation, a $75 billion hammer in search of a scapegoat. Under the law, ICE gets funding that rivals the military budgets of Italy or Israel to build sites like the facility in the Everglades nicknamed Alligator Alcatraz. The goal? Fear. This isn’t law enforcement. It’s authoritarian cosplay designed to scare the electorate and silence dissent. Trump’s war doesn’t punish behavior but identity, as immigrants from certain countries and ethnicities are targeted. Federal agents in full tactical gear swept through a park in Latino-heavy L.A. this week, just to make a point. The mayor said: “It’s the way a city looks before a coup.” Q. What do storm troopers, the KKK, and ICE have in common? A mask.
Modern-Day Gestapo
ICE has become Trump’s personal Praetorian Guard. Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, Vice President Harris’s running mate, was excoriated for comparing ICE to the gestapo. But spare us the bull**** indignation: Masked agents in fatigues raiding churches and schools separating families is not modern America but 1930s Europe. Or is it? In the 2026 fiscal year, ICE will receive over $11 billion, a 10% increase from current funding. The new law will more than double that. It authorizes the hiring of 10,000 agents, bringing ICE’s force to nearly 30,000. In 1944, Nazi Germany had 32,000 gestapo officers and $2b (inflation adjusted) in funding. They were fighting a world war. Trump is fighting home health aides and Uber drivers. Criminals? Not Really
ICE claims it’s targeting “the worst of the worst.” But fewer than one-third of the record 59,000 immigrant detainees have been convicted of any crime. The rest? A: Immigrants who didn’t look like the typical Iowa voter.
Trump’s reach even extends to his political rivals. He publicly questioned the citizenship of NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani and his former First Friend (Elon). Mamdani has been a U.S. citizen since 2018. Doesn’t matter. “Criminal” now also means “not for Trump.” Jobs and Lies
The argument that immigrants are stealing jobs is a lie told by people who’ve never built a business or managed a P&L. Immigrants create jobs. They work jobs native-born Americans won’t touch. They pay into Social Security but rarely collect. Deporting them is an economic own goal. The Cato Institute estimates the cost of mass deportations could eventually exceed $1 trillion. The Peterson Institute projects a 1.2% drop in GDP if 1.3 million people are deported, growing to 7% if deportations hit 8 million. That’s not policy, but (see above) stupidity: hurting others while hurting yourself.
The Real Invasion: AI
Instead of militarizing immigration enforcement, we should be investing against the real challenge: AI. The World Economic Forum says 9 million jobs globally may be displaced in the next five years. Anthropic’s CEO warns AI could eliminate half of all entry-level white-collar jobs. Imagine the population of Greece storming the shores of America and taking jobs (even jobs Americans actually want), as they’re willing to work 24/7 for free. You’ve already met them. Their names are GPT, Claude, and Gemini. Want to protect American workers? Train, don’t terrorize. Media and Academia in the Crosshairs
Trump’s war on domestic enemies doesn’t stop with ICE. He’s coming for the press and the academy. Disney, Meta, and Paramount have all settled nuisance lawsuits with Trump, for a combined total of about $60 million. All the funds go to his presidential library — where truth will go to be laundered, not learned. Newsrooms are folding or playing defense. Breaking with a long-standing tradition, the White House is handpicking press pool participants. Harvard, once America’s aircraft carrier strike force of soft power, is now a MAGA speed bag. Autocrats always come for universities, which train people to ask questions. The White House is threatening to defund billions in research, choke off international student visas, and criminalize campus dissent. Nearly 300 top researchers have applied for “scientific asylum” — in France. In the thirties and forties, some of the world’s premier academics fled Europe for America. They brought quantum theory, chemotherapy, modern computing, and other breakthroughs with them. Oh, including the bomb. The rivers of elite human capital are now flowing in reverse, and we’re sending the scholars back. How can we be this ******* stupid? Warriors vs. Whiners
This isn’t a slippery slope, but a vertical drop. Trump has Congress kneeling, courts folding, and corporations cashing in. What’s left is us. This was never just about immigrants, professors, or journalists. It’s about unchecked power that, unchallenged, is metastasizing. Democracy doesn’t defend itself. We won’t fight this with hashtags, but with votes, lawsuits, and courage. This is the moment we decide: Are we citizens of a republic, or spectators to its collapse? Life is so rich,
Scott Galloway
Maga want the Epstein Files released in total. Need I say more? We all know Trump is protecting his backers.
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