The Turnbull Government

[SirRumpole]

Kevin Rudd to sue ABC over reporting related to the Cabinet papers.

He reckons the ABC accused him of ignoring safety risks, but he says he ignored financial and administrative risks.

Interesting. I see a humble apology from the ABC on the horizon.

 

[Tisme]

Kevin Rudd to sue ABC over reporting related to the Cabinet papers.

He reckons the ABC accused him of ignoring safety risks, but he says he ignored financial and administrative risks.

Interesting. I see a humble apology from the ABC on the horizon.

He actually warned them of the context of the cabinet paper and they chose to ignore him.

Kevin needs to join the Greens and then the ABC will probably give him a medal of valour.

 

[PZ.]

I reckon Kevin will end up with more egg on his face than the ABC. Against safety advice from multiple departments and even the unions Kevin swung the Pink Batt and scored an own goal.

 

[Tisme]

I reckon Kevin will end up with more egg on his face than the ABC. Against safety advice from multiple departments and even the unions Kevin swung the Pink Batt and scored an own goal.

The safety responsibility was that of the states, they are the ones that regulate trades. In QLD I had weekly pre-emptive safety office updates clearly stating the tools allowed, isolation and testing of power wiring, RCBO/RCD installation etc. The contractors are to blame for the deaths and fires, but politics being the nasty sh!te that it is, was foremost in the LNP/Murdoch stable.

 

[PZ.]

The safety responsibility was that of the states, they are the ones that regulate trades. In QLD I had weekly pre-emptive safety office updates clearly stating the tools allowed, isolation and testing of power wiring, RCBO/RCD installation etc. The contractors are to blame for the deaths and fires, but politics being the nasty sh!te that it is, was foremost in the LNP/Murdoch stable.

That's all true but it doesn't remove the case when Kevin Rudd was warned prior to rolling out the program and leaving it to the market as opposed to regulation. A classic case of why deregulation is dangerous.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-...e-learnt-from-the-pink-batts-disaster/5466762

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...k=f504e21575ee496763a604050b547d39-1517459166

Even worse, they pulled the program after the contractors had stocked up on pink batts. Then the contractors had to be compensated by the taxpayers. As far as brain farts go - this was a doozy and it's akin to parents letting kids play with matches.

And Kev is saying he wasn't warned?

 

[Tisme]

That's all true but it doesn't remove the case when Kevin Rudd was warned prior to rolling out the program and leaving it to the market as opposed to regulation. A classic case of why deregulation is dangerous.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-...e-learnt-from-the-pink-batts-disaster/5466762

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...k=f504e21575ee496763a604050b547d39-1517459166

Even worse, they pulled the program after the contractors had stocked up on pink batts. Then the contractors had to be compensated by the taxpayers. As far as brain farts go - this was a doozy and it's akin to parents letting kids play with matches.

And Kev is saying he wasn't warned?

I think you have the timelines mixed up.

I actually bundled the Safety Office notices sent to me and offered them to the commission of inquiry, but they had no interest . There was indeed govt regulation, but it was ignored by delinquent contractors who not only falsified inductions, used unapproved imported insulation, didn't employ licenced electrical contractors, but they also kitted their workers with inappropriate PPE, tools and fixings.

 

[PZ.]

I think you have the timelines mixed up.

I actually bundled the Safety Office notices sent to me and offered them to the commission of inquiry, but they had no interest . There was indeed govt regulation, but it was ignored by delinquent contractors who not only falsified inductions, used unapproved imported insulation, didn't employ licenced electrical contractors, but they also kitted their workers with inappropriate PPE, tools and fixings.

That's been a widespread issue for 20+ years. Even late last year I discovered a mates' solar installation was made with unstriped wires attached to terminal boxes and an earth leakage to boot. No wonder the inverter went into islanding mode when the jug was activated. Crickey, it wouldn't surprise me if a solar powered house still fed residual power into a dead line even though it's illegal.

The point is all the above culpability was overlooked for the sake of a fast rollout.

Next time you go to a Midnight Oil concert ask yourself why Peter Garrett has the "shakes" on stage whilst holding an unearthed microphone

 

[Logique]

I'm sniffing a bit of partisan tit-for-tat going on.

Labor MP Susan Lamb, clearly a British citizen, shouldn't be in the chamber, sob story notwithstanding

Banaby Joyce, suddenly his current partner is pictured, none too flatteringly, on the front page. It's not the first go they've had at Barnaby

 

[SirRumpole]

Labor MP Susan Lamb, clearly a British citizen, shouldn't be in the chamber, sob story notwithstanding

I believe Susan Lamb's case relies on taking "reasonable steps" to renounce citizenship.

She says she did this, but untill it has been ruled on by the High Court she is entitled to remain.

 

[Logique]

Yes you are right on this. Referral to the High Court is the way forward

 

[Tisme]

I believe Susan Lamb's case relies on taking "reasonable steps" to renounce citizenship.

She says she did this, but untill it has been ruled on by the High Court she is entitled to remain.

She has a letter form the UK govt saying they can't find any proof she is a UK citizen. This is where she finds out here parents were spies for the Ruskies and her real name is Nikita

 

[Knobby22]

I believe Susan Lamb's case relies on taking "reasonable steps" to renounce citizenship.

She says she did this, but untill it has been ruled on by the High Court she is entitled to remain.

According to John Faine, in Queensland it is simple to get it, just sign a stat dec. Parent permission not required. She lies well. She should be a politi ... or yea, she is. Can fake tears also.

 

[SirRumpole]

Kevin Rudd to sue ABC over reporting related to the Cabinet papers.

He reckons the ABC accused him of ignoring safety risks, but he says he ignored financial and administrative risks.

Interesting. I see a humble apology from the ABC on the horizon.

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ABC apology to Kevin Rudd

Updated about 2 hours ago


Related Story: Cabinet committee document warned about 'critical risks' of home insulation scheme

Map: Australia

On January 31, 2018, ABC News reported on a document prepared in April 2009 for the Strategic Priorities and Budget Committee (SPBC) warning of critical risks in the roll-out of the Energy Efficient Homes Package.

In reporting on that document, the ABC did not intend to suggest that Mr Rudd recklessly ignored critical risks of the home insulation scheme before the deaths of four young installers, or that he lied to the royal commission that examined those deaths.

The ABC accepts that, as found by the royal commission, Mr Rudd was not warned of, and was not aware of critical safety risks at the time.

The royal commission made no adverse findings against Mr Rudd and there is no suggestion that Mr Rudd lied to the commission.

The ABC unreservedly apologises to Mr Rudd for any harm or embarrassment caused."
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-08/abc-apology-to-kevin-rudd/9410836

 

[Tisme]

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ABC apology to Kevin Rudd

Updated about 2 hours ago


Related Story: Cabinet committee document warned about 'critical risks' of home insulation scheme

Map: Australia

On January 31, 2018, ABC News reported on a document prepared in April 2009 for the Strategic Priorities and Budget Committee (SPBC) warning of critical risks in the roll-out of the Energy Efficient Homes Package.

In reporting on that document, the ABC did not intend to suggest that Mr Rudd recklessly ignored critical risks of the home insulation scheme before the deaths of four young installers, or that he lied to the royal commission that examined those deaths.

The ABC accepts that, as found by the royal commission, Mr Rudd was not warned of, and was not aware of critical safety risks at the time.

The royal commission made no adverse findings against Mr Rudd and there is no suggestion that Mr Rudd lied to the commission.

The ABC unreservedly apologises to Mr Rudd for any harm or embarrassment caused."
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-08/abc-apology-to-kevin-rudd/9410836

There was once a time when you could count on the ABC just to report rather than make up fantasy yarns and retract them when the damage has been done.

Rumpole and I can pinpoint the date they changed into marxist mavericks... the day they started censoring our posts on the QANDA forum

 

[explod]

There was once a time when you could count on the ABC just to report rather than make up fantasy yarns and retract them when the damage has been done.

Rumpole and I can pinpoint the date they changed into marxist mavericks... the day they started censoring our posts on the QANDA forum

Agree, on the Liberal influenced change of CEO it immediately went fascist right wing, and so noticeable.

 

[SirRumpole]

There was once a time when you could count on the ABC just to report rather than make up fantasy yarns and retract them when the damage has been done.

Rumpole and I can pinpoint the date they changed into marxist mavericks... the day they started censoring our posts on the QANDA forum

They have recently brought back comments on news stories on ABC online. When I called Barnaby Joyce a goose I was nearly banned.

Maybe I should have called him a randy bandicoot.

 

[Tisme]

They have recently brought back comments on news stories on ABC online. When I called Barnaby Joyce a goose I was nearly banned.

Maybe I should have called him a randy bandicoot.

Odd thing is I get likes from some of them, but in front of the camera they mouth different views.

There are many twats on twatter who like to send me poison pen responses to my posts. I can't figure out why they would be aggravated with my well researched and factual contributions as opposed to the factoids they seem all too keen to consume as realistic.

 

[sptrawler]

It's a shame Abbott didn't take the same tack, I guess a lot will taken from Kev's lead.
One thing about him, he wasn't afraid to put it out there, sharp as a tac but a bit lost. IMO
He seemed to struggle between being the PM for the people, or the lead role in the PM's position.

 

[Logique]

Of course there are two sides to every story - but Barnaby, you are looking a complete goose at this point.

Almost Karl Stefanovic-like. Lisa W. wasn't silly and jumped ship, but she'll find she's not the Queen Bee over there.

The SMH lady pages today (Julia Baird article), are saying double-standard, look at how Cheryl Kernot was treated back in the day. Of course the background circumstances were very different, Kernot had resigned as Australian Democrats leader to contest and win a Labor seat. Rather more significant to be 'sleeping-with-the-enemy' in such circumstances.

I suppose it will all blow over, as it often does.

 

[explod]

Absolute disgrace:-

"Suzie Marston This man did everything he could( with help from Libs) to hinder and stop same sex marriage going ahead and all the while hes cheating on his wife and getting his girlfriend pregnant...great shining liar.

Beth Hill Revolting hypocritical piece of work.
Waffling on about the sanctity of marriage blah blah blah. His wife and four daughters left to deal with the outcome of his dalliance. And a baby to a woman he doesn’t even acknowledge seriously.

" Discussion with fellow Greens today.

And its getting about the less priviledged:-

"Australian Unemployed Workers' Union
7 hrs ·
Barnaby Joyce is living rent-free with the mother of his unborn child in an Armidale townhouse owned by a multi-millionaire businessman who is an influential player in New England politics and was once accused of trying to bribe Tony Windsor.

The six-month gift of tenancy, worth about $14,000, was made by self-made local man Greg Maguire, who has had business interests in hotels, freight, and dairy and pastoral outfits, as well as a yacht charter enterprise.

The Weekend Australian also understands Mr Joyce’s new partner, former staffer Vikki Campion, was moved with the approval of Malcolm Turnbull’s office to a senior adviser position on senator Matt Canavan’s staff which delivered her a significant pay rise. The salary band for a senior adviser is up to $191,000 a year.

The move was approved after the relationship became the subject of rumour, prompting Bill Shorten to warn Mr Turnbull the public should be assured there was “nothing untoward”.

Mr Joyce was handed the keys to the three-bedroom, two-bathroom townhouse when he was removed from parliament after it was found he was a dual Australian-New Zealand citizen.

Rumours of a marital breakdown between Mr Joyce and his wife of 24 years, Natalie, were confirmed when the New England member returned to parliament and took up his role as Deputy Prime Minister late last year, but it was only this week that it was revealed Ms Campion was pregnant with his child.

The Prime Minister yesterday said he was “very conscious of the distress” suffered by Mrs Joyce and her four daughters. Mr Joyce moved out of the family home, near Tamworth in northeast NSW, before the New England by-election on December 2, later moving into the townhouse.

The Weekend Australian is not suggesting any wrongdoing on behalf of Mr Maguire or Mr Joyce.

Mr Maguire, who has been friends with Mr Joyce for many years, has a long history in New England politics. In 2004, his then friend and independent MP Tony Windsor accused Mr Maguire of attempting to bribe him. Mr Maguire, said to be acting as an intermediary for then Nationals leader John Anderson, told Mr Windsor he had become ineffective as an MP and should “back off” in place of a better candidate.

“Greg Maguire asked Tony Windsor what it would take for him to consider leaving politics and would he be interested in a diplomatic or trade posting overseas,” Mr Windsor’s campaign manager, Stephen Hall, told a Senate inquiry at the time. “Greg Maguire said that either could be arranged.”

The matter was referred to the Australian Federal Police, but the case was dropped on the advice of prosecutors who said there was insufficient evidence.

At the same Senate hearing in March 2005, Mr Maguire denied any wrongdoing.

Mr Maguire organised a fundraising dinner for Mr Joyce’s 2013 election bid that then opposition leader Tony Abbott attended.

Neither Mr Maguire nor any company he controls is listed as a donor to the Nationals’ federal division or its NSW branch in any year since the late 1990s. Neither Mr Maguire nor Mr Joyce could be reached for comment yesterday.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/…/48aa179f1e9a478a9f686639…"