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sptrawler said:
The LNP needs to bite the bullet and put Abbott back in charge, he shouldn't have been removed, it was stupid to put Turnbull in he was ineffective the first time and nothing has changed.

Labor proved the folly of flipping leaders and the dumb LNP did exactly the same, all we need do is get the press to run the Country, problem solved.lol
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Abbott was even more incompetent than Turnbull. If they are going to change again they have to purge the past and start anew. Unfortunately there are very few Libs who are up to it. Julie Bishop may be their best pick.
 
SirRumpole said:
Abbott was even more incompetent than Turnbull. If they are going to change again they have to purge the past and start anew. Unfortunately there are very few Libs who are up to it. Julie Bishop may be their best pick.
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Your probably right, but Bishop cracks under pressure, maybe the next generation needs to step up.
 
bigdog said:
I believe the Ley apartment was U 34/3645 Main Beach Parade
https://www.realestate.com.au/property/34-3645-main-beach-pde-main-beach-qld-4217

Reported sold $795,000 SOLD May 2015 Ray White Real Estate Main Beach
-- this is a big discount to the prior purchase price of $830,000
-- something smells

This link also reports sold for "$830,000 SOLD Jan 2006"

Ray White Real Estate Main Beach
https://www.realestate.com.au/sold/property-apartment-qld-main+beach-119553739
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Surely you aren't suggesting the sale was subsidised, heaven forbid financial favours would be afoot.
 
Wasn't it sold by auction? It would be had to manipulate a sale at a "favourable" price in an open auction.
 
SirRumpole said:
It only gets worse...



Sussan Ley attended Sarina Russo's New Year's Eve parties on taxpayer money



So why is this businesswoman so important to the formation of government policy ? It sounds more like Party business rather than government business and so she's not entitled to claim for that.



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-09/sussan-leys-taxpayer-new-years-with-sarina-russo/8170744
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Unrepentant Bronwyn Bishop doing a Noco and trying to blame the Labor Party and men in general for Sussan Ley's fraud. Apparently her blaming everyone else except her mates, is different to "socialists always blaming someone else , but themselves" .... damn Labor, still governing badly. LOL

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...s/news-story/bc1bbd70a4b9de04eefeedd1ef6be9a3
 
They're all rotten to the core, both sides that is. I really wish the left and right party supporters could unite and demand a federal ICAC. Xenophone is about the only one I have faith in atm.

Whats the bet Susan Ley post politics ends up a lobbyist for Sarina Russo's recruitment agency.
 
Should also balance the latest with Bronwyn Bishop's $1,567, 60.94 extra personal expenses for two financial years 2013 to 2015 and Julie Bishop's $2,844, 209.20 for the same period..... Bill Shorten, the current Prime Ministerial heir presumptive, needs to do something about this, while Malcolm is busy repairing the fragile ar5e his fellow cabinet ministers have ripped another one in yet again.
 
overhang said:
They're all rotten to the core, both sides that is. I really wish the left and right party supporters could unite and demand a federal ICAC. Xenophone is about the only one I have faith in atm.

Whats the bet Susan Ley post politics ends up a lobbyist for Sarina Russo's recruitment agency.
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"Sisters" doing it for themselves... be interesting if a reporter picks up on sarina russo christine forster tony abbott linkers.
 
Tisme said:
Unrepentant Bronwyn Bishop doing a Noco and trying to blame the Labor Party and men in general for Sussan Ley's fraud. Apparently her blaming everyone else except her mates, is different to "socialists always blaming someone else , but themselves" .... damn Labor, still governing badly. LOL

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...s/news-story/bc1bbd70a4b9de04eefeedd1ef6be9a3
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What is a NOCO?...Please explain.

As far as I am concerned Bronwyn Bishop got all she deserved as have many Labor MPs....

If Susan Ley has done the wrong thing then she will also get what she deserves also.

You lefties are self appointed judge and jury before Ley is found guilty....Your favorite MPs Mark Dreyfus and Penny Wong are always saying when a Labor MP is in trouble, they are innocent until proven guilty as was the case Craig Thomson.....Your beloved Fabian Julia Gillard defended him until the death.
 
noco said:
What is a NOCO?...Please explain.
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Someone who thinks he's the only one that knows anything and describes all others outside his understanding and or thinking as lefties, Fabians or commos.

Cant really argue with that. My Dad described them as "cockalooras" And he was a Liberal too.
 
explod said:
Someone who thinks he's the only one that knows anything and describes all others outside his understanding and or thinking as lefties, Fabians or commos.

Cant really argue with that. My Dad described them as "cockalooras" And he was a Liberal too.
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See I would have said a NOCO is a fella who is denial about his true hardcore socialistic bent, but has a hard time coming out of the closet on the issue. As a real right winger I can spot tarnished pewter trying to be polished sterling silver a mile off, troll or no troll. Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
 
SirRumpole said:
Is the AFL Grand Final business or pleasure ?



If you are a pollie, it's business.



Political expenses: Julie Bishop charged taxpayers for Portsea Polo trip, Mathias Cormann claimed for AFL final



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-10/julie-bishop-charged-taxpayers-for-trip-to-polo/8173542
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So 3 ministers were invited as guests of NAB to the AFL grand final which included complimentary tickets and catering, those 3 ministers were Finance Minister Mathias Cormann, Trade Minister Steve Ciobo and David Bushby the Tasmanian Senator. All 3 men have spoken above and beyond to reject a RC into the banking sector. They can not possibly be seen to be acting in the publics best interest by attending an event as a guests to a corporate giant in an industry that has come under a lot of scrutiny and faced calls for a Royal Commission.
 
overhang said:
So 3 ministers were invited as guests of NAB to the AFL grand final which included complimentary tickets and catering, those 3 ministers were Finance Minister Mathias Cormann, Trade Minister Steve Ciobo and David Bushby the Tasmanian Senator. All 3 men have spoken above and beyond to reject a RC into the banking sector. They can not possibly be seen to be acting in the publics best interest by attending an event as a guests to a corporate giant in an industry that has come under a lot of scrutiny and faced calls for a Royal Commission.
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A classic trigger for a royal commission into union corruption and a Bill Shorten witch hunt..... never could trust socialists.
 
Herald Sun Melb reported
"It can now be revealed the Liberal Party donor who sold his luxury apartment to Ms Ley, at a loss, was given a $109,977 grant for his daycare business when she was childcare minister.

Education Department contract documents reveal Children First Learning Centres, owned by vendor Martin Corkery, received the government grant for three daycare centres in November 2014, when Ms Ley was Assistant Education Minister.

Six months later, she bought his luxury De Ville apartment “on a whim’’ during a taxpayer-funded trip."

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what would this property purchased in April 2006 for $830,000 be really worth in June 2015 (nine years later)????
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I believe the Ley apartment was Unit 34/3645 Main Beach Parade
https://www.realestate.com.au/property/34-3645-main-beach-pde-main-beach-qld-4217

http://www.onthehouse.com.au/11492899/34_3645_main_beach_pde_main_beach_qld_4217

Sold: $795,000 09 JUN 2015 Source: Government(sold to Ley)
Sold: $830,000 21 APR 2006 Source: Government (sold to Martin Corkery)
Sold: $455,000 10 JUN 2002 Source: Government
 
Bigdog,

Not ruling out that there may have been corruption, but one can always present information in a way that suggests that. Being sceptical of much of what I read, I would ask the following questions:

Was it sold at auction? If so, were there other (at arms length) bidders? Were they prevented from bidding?

What has been the average change in property prices of similar properties in the same area over the same time period? Property prices have been falling in some areas for a few years.

Was the grant he received for his childcare centres given to all childcare centres or just his?

I would like to see answers to the above before I would jump to conclusions.
 
SirRumpole said:
Abbott was even more incompetent than Turnbull. If they are going to change again they have to purge the past and start anew. Unfortunately there are very few Libs who are up to it. Julie Bishop may be their best pick.
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On second thoughts, I don't think you're right, I just wasn't feeling confrontational.
Abbott, is still the best option for the LNP and Australia, it is just the media and Laborites that think otherwise.
People have had a chance, to see what it is like to have Bill Shortens twin running the country, I'm sure no one is happy on either side of politics.
You just have to read this thread, to see there is no passion or direction in politics, just insipid lack lustre directionless leadership.
That goes for both sides, neither has any drive, charisma, leadership qualities.
The really sad bit is they aren't believable, at least Abbott scared the crap out of the media.
 

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