The Turnbull Government

[moXJO]

Been over a hundred years since a sitting government won a seat from opposition in a by-election.

And there was no danger at all of them wining one now.

Libs have pssed off all the wrong voters while they have been patting themselves on the back and throwing high fives. They better get their house in order or they are in for a rude shock.

 

[sptrawler]

Been over a hundred years since a sitting government won a seat from opposition in a by-election.

And there was no danger at all of them wining one now.

Libs have pssed off all the wrong voters while they have been patting themselves on the back and throwing high fives. They better get their house in order or they are in for a rude shock.

When they put Turnbull in, they lined themselves up for a rude shock.

 

[Tisme]

When a govt encourages it's male navy personnel to paint their finger nails pink to promote gender diversity, it's time to think about gun ownership.

 

[basilio]

When a govt encourages it's male navy personnel to paint their finger nails pink to promote gender diversity, it's time to think about gun ownership.

Perhaps it's worth having a listen to the Head of the the Defence Forces views on gender equity in the Armed Forces rather than the Mark Lathams of this world.

Defence Force chief promotes gender diversity as crucial to Australia's military capability
By Defence reporter Andrew Greene
Updated 5 Apr 2017, 5:04pm

Sorry, this video has expired
Video: Mark Binskin praised the Navy for promoting women to leadership roles. (ABC News)
A gathering of women who work in defence and national security has been told their participation in the traditionally male-dominated sector is crucial to Australia's military capability.

Women in the ADF:

• 16.1% of permanent, full-time ADF personnel are women
• 266 women are serving overseas on ADF operations (about 14p% of the total deployed force)
• 82 women are in senior officer positions (compared with 48 in February 2012)
• 41p% of Department of Defence public servants are women
• More than 40% of those in Defence graduate program are women
• 43% of appointments in most recent recruitments for Defence senior executive positions were women (compared with about 30% in existing senior executive cohort)

Addressing the inaugural Women and National Security Conference in Canberra today, Defence chief, Air Chief Marshal Mark Binskin, stressed the importance of a diverse workforce for the ADF.

"A diverse workforce is all about capability. The greater our diversity, the greater the range of ideas and insights to challenge the accepted norm, assess the risks, see them from a different perspective, and develop creative solutions," he said.

"I've seen this on operations but I also see it every day in my own office.

"Right now 57 per cent of my personal staff are women. This is no mistake. In fact, I hand choose everyone for that office.

"They are the first to tell me how it really is in their candour on behalf of their peers and the networks that they represent.

"Combined with the mix of unique insights, [it] helps me see issues from a different point of view, and in my experiences, our differences make a stronger team."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-...rsity-crucial-for-military-capability/8419022

 

[Tisme]

Perhaps it's worth having a listen to the Head of the the Defence Forces views on gender equity in the Armed Forces rather than the Mark Lathams of this world.

Defence Force chief promotes gender diversity as crucial to Australia's military capability
By Defence reporter Andrew Greene
Updated 5 Apr 2017, 5:04pm

Sorry, this video has expired
Video: Mark Binskin praised the Navy for promoting women to leadership roles. (ABC News)
A gathering of women who work in defence and national security has been told their participation in the traditionally male-dominated sector is crucial to Australia's military capability.

Women in the ADF:

• 16.1% of permanent, full-time ADF personnel are women
• 266 women are serving overseas on ADF operations (about 14p% of the total deployed force)
• 82 women are in senior officer positions (compared with 48 in February 2012)
• 41p% of Department of Defence public servants are women
• More than 40% of those in Defence graduate program are women
• 43% of appointments in most recent recruitments for Defence senior executive positions were women (compared with about 30% in existing senior executive cohort)

Addressing the inaugural Women and National Security Conference in Canberra today, Defence chief, Air Chief Marshal Mark Binskin, stressed the importance of a diverse workforce for the ADF.

"A diverse workforce is all about capability. The greater our diversity, the greater the range of ideas and insights to challenge the accepted norm, assess the risks, see them from a different perspective, and develop creative solutions," he said.

"I've seen this on operations but I also see it every day in my own office.

"Right now 57 per cent of my personal staff are women. This is no mistake. In fact, I hand choose everyone for that office.

"They are the first to tell me how it really is in their candour on behalf of their peers and the networks that they represent.

"Combined with the mix of unique insights, [it] helps me see issues from a different point of view, and in my experiences, our differences make a stronger team."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-...rsity-crucial-for-military-capability/8419022

Like I said ... might renew my licence and arsenal ... that should double the repelling force in defence of our country ....what's left of it.

 

[moXJO]

Perhaps it's worth having a listen to the Head of the the Defence Forces views on gender equity in the Armed Forces rather than the Mark Lathams of this world.

Defence Force chief promotes gender diversity as crucial to Australia's military capability
By Defence reporter Andrew Greene
Updated 5 Apr 2017, 5:04pm

Sorry, this video has expired
Video: Mark Binskin praised the Navy for promoting women to leadership roles. (ABC News)
A gathering of women who work in defence and national security has been told their participation in the traditionally male-dominated sector is crucial to Australia's military capability.

Women in the ADF:

• 16.1% of permanent, full-time ADF personnel are women
• 266 women are serving overseas on ADF operations (about 14p% of the total deployed force)
• 82 women are in senior officer positions (compared with 48 in February 2012)
• 41p% of Department of Defence public servants are women
• More than 40% of those in Defence graduate program are women
• 43% of appointments in most recent recruitments for Defence senior executive positions were women (compared with about 30% in existing senior executive cohort)

Addressing the inaugural Women and National Security Conference in Canberra today, Defence chief, Air Chief Marshal Mark Binskin, stressed the importance of a diverse workforce for the ADF.

"A diverse workforce is all about capability. The greater our diversity, the greater the range of ideas and insights to challenge the accepted norm, assess the risks, see them from a different perspective, and develop creative solutions," he said.

"I've seen this on operations but I also see it every day in my own office.

"Right now 57 per cent of my personal staff are women. This is no mistake. In fact, I hand choose everyone for that office.

"They are the first to tell me how it really is in their candour on behalf of their peers and the networks that they represent.

"Combined with the mix of unique insights, [it] helps me see issues from a different point of view, and in my experiences, our differences make a stronger team."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-...rsity-crucial-for-military-capability/8419022

Women weaken combat units.

 

[SirRumpole]

If you have an all male office or an all women office, things will get done even if they are the wrong things.

If you mix them up they will be forever arguing and little will get done because men and women think differently, that's a scientific fact.

This is probably the wrong thread for this, but it follows on from previous posts.

 

[basilio]

If you have an all male office or an all women office, things will get done even if they are the wrong things.

If you mix them up they will be forever arguing and little will get done because men and women think differently, that's a scientific fact.
.

So you wern't so impressed with the experience of the Defence Chief with regard to the improvement a diverse range of views can offer ?

"A diverse workforce is all about capability. The greater our diversity, the greater the range of ideas and insights to challenge the accepted norm, assess the risks, see them from a different perspective, and develop creative solutions," he said.

"I've seen this on operations but I also see it every day in my own office.

"Right now 57 per cent of my personal staff are women. This is no mistake. In fact, I hand choose everyone for that office.

"They are the first to tell me how it really is in their candour on behalf of their peers and the networks that they represent.

"Combined with the mix of unique insights, [it] helps me see issues from a different point of view, and in my experiences, our differences make a stronger team."

 

[Tisme]

If you have an all male office or an all women office, things will get done even if they are the wrong things.

If you mix them up they will be forever arguing and little will get done because men and women think differently, that's a scientific fact.

This is probably the wrong thread for this, but it follows on from previous posts.

I think you have to factor in the pink nail polish ... it screams high functioning soldier.

 

[SirRumpole]

So you wern't so impressed with the experience of the Defence Chief with regard to the improvement a diverse range of views can offer ?

When you have to make split second decisions you haven't got time to sit around and discuss "diverse views".

They may be ok for day to day admin tasks, but in high pressure situations I would be trusting a single commander with experience.

 

[Tisme]

When you have to make split second decisions you haven't got time to sit around and discuss "diverse views".

They may be ok for day to day admin tasks, but in high pressure situations I would be trusting a single commander with experience.

Settling for second best to defend your family, your safety, your country:

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No place for women in the SAS, says ex-special forces member training them
WOMEN should not be allowed to join the SAS, an ex-special forces hero has said.
By CONSTANCE KNOX
PUBLISHED: 00:01, Sun, Jan 7, 2018 | UPDATED: 10:25, Sun, Jan 7, 2018

MARKKEHOE/CHANNEL4

Ant Middleton tested reporter Constance Knox (L) at an SAS bootcamp training centre
Ant Middleton spoke out after reports that the elite unit is considering changing its selection process to give female applicants a better chance.

The 37-year-old former sniper, who now fronts Channel 4’s SAS: Who Dares Wins – which includes women contestants – said they should prove themselves in other close combat roles before being admitted.

Any member of the Army can apply to join the SAS, including women.

At the end of this year they will be allowed to apply for the Parachute Regiment, Royal Marines, Infantry and Royal Air Force Regiment, following a 2016 announcement by David Cameron that women would be allowed to serve in frontline, ground close-combat units.

CHANNEL4

Ant saw active service in Northern Ireland, Macedonia and Afghanistan during his time in the Army
I think women need to prove themselves in a combat role first. They can join the Royal Marines and Parachute Regiment and prove themselves in both of those

Ant Middleton

“I don’t think there is a place for women in the special forces at the moment,” said Ant, who served in the Special Boat Service.

“It’s moving too quickly at the moment. It needs to be a slower progression.

“I think women need to prove themselves in a combat role first. They can join the Royal Marines and Parachute Regiment and prove themselves in both of those. These are important stepping stones towards special forces selection.”

His comments follow reports that the SAS is considering making its gruelling selection exercises easier for women, who could be allowed to carry lighter loads and given more time for treks to give them a better chance of passing one of the toughest tests in the world.

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Ant believes women should first prove themselves in the Royal Marines or Parachute Regiment
Less than 10 per cent of all candidates make it through the trials, which include a 40-mile, 20-hour march in the Brecon Beacons, South Wales, jungle exercises in Belize and interrogation tests.

In 2013 three SAS reservists died during a training exercise in Brecon.

Portsmouth-born Ant served with the Royal Marines and the Paras before, in 2008, joining the Special Boat Service, the UK’s naval special forces unit and the sister unit of the SAS.

He left the military in 2012 and started work as a personal security guard protecting VIPs.

In 2015 he became a trainer on SAS: Who Dares Wins and is now its chief instructor.

In the show, Ant and a team of SAS veterans put contestants through their paces in tests which replicate those soldiers must pass to join the unit."

 

[SirRumpole]

His comments follow reports that the SAS is considering making its gruelling selection exercises easier for women, who could be allowed to carry lighter loads and given more time for treks to give them a better chance of passing one of the toughest tests in the world.

If you have to lower the standards, you reduce the effectiveness, it's pretty obvious.

 

[moXJO]

So you wern't so impressed with the experience of the Defence Chief with regard to the improvement a diverse range of views can offer ?

"A diverse workforce is all about capability. The greater our diversity, the greater the range of ideas and insights to challenge the accepted norm, assess the risks, see them from a different perspective, and develop creative solutions," he said.

"I've seen this on operations but I also see it every day in my own office.

"Right now 57 per cent of my personal staff are women. This is no mistake. In fact, I hand choose everyone for that office.

"They are the first to tell me how it really is in their candour on behalf of their peers and the networks that they represent.

"Combined with the mix of unique insights, [it] helps me see issues from a different point of view, and in my experiences, our differences make a stronger team."

Women are fine for a multitude of roles in the army. Combat/infantry roles are not one of them.

 

[luutzu]

Women are fine for a multitude of roles in the army. Combat/infantry roles are not one of them.

Some woman can be physically as strong, or stronger, than some men. So if a recruit passes those tests, it'd be like any male soldier passing those tests.

But all this about gender equality and diversity etc., are all pc. Recruitment into the armed forces is drying up. I mean, there's some dozen wars our boss is involved in... and they're planning a few more right here in Asia/Pacific/Indo.

With not much migrants, illegals, left back home. With a completely "voluntary" military... you'd have to wait until another financial crisis to recruit anyone. Hence the diversity card.

 

[moXJO]

Some woman can be physically as strong, or stronger, than some men. So if a recruit passes those tests, it'd be like any male soldier passing those tests.

But all this about gender equality and diversity etc., are all pc. Recruitment into the armed forces is drying up. I mean, there's some dozen wars our boss is involved in... and they're planning a few more right here in Asia/Pacific/Indo.

With not much migrants, illegals, left back home. With a completely "voluntary" military... you'd have to wait until another financial crisis to recruit anyone. Hence the diversity card.

Their hips pack it in fairly
quickly (2 years). Due to the weight of the kit and female bone structure. So you waste money on training and medical.
Mixed gender units failed every time when put against male only units when they were trialing it.
But "Girl power" or whatever....

 

[Tisme]

Will Michaelia Cash get charged by AFP?

 

[SirRumpole]

Will Michaelia Cash get charged by AFP?

She would have to find a much larger whiteboard if she does.

 

[Darc Knight]

Some woman can be physically as strong, or stronger, than some men. So if a recruit passes those tests, it'd be like any male soldier passing those tests.

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Hmm. But if we're talking combat roles we are talking about trained Soldiers. Yes, some Women maybe physically fitter than some Men, but once we throw training into the mix Men's bodies respond faster due to hormones, joint sizes, muscle belly length etc. Nature rules Daniel son lol.

Put the female Soldiers on some low dose Steroids and maybe, but females on Steroids are a nightmare generally

Selection on merit for combat roles imo.

 

[PZ.]

Will Michaelia Cash get charged by AFP?

Probably not.

She'll get scorned for not doing her homework before opening her mouth but that's about it IMO.

 

[Tisme]

Probably not.

She'll get scorned for not doing her homework before opening her mouth but that's about it IMO.

She always has the Hanson Young tears defense to fall back on ... equality in parliament right there